If the rumours were true and we could have had pick 30 and Goldsack, then Lyon and the club shot themselves in the foot. Yes, it may not have been a "perfect" trade, but not all trades are done with both parties receiving a win-win outcome. In fact, few trades have that outcome.Spinner wrote:Mr Magic wrote:IIRC they offered Wellingham to NM for their pick (early 20's) which apparently we would have been prepared to accept for Ball (but we didn't apparently want Wellingham).degruch wrote:Yep, Sidebottom, Pendlebury, pick's 4 and 7 AND their future first rounder, which we'd already planned to swap for Chris Judd! Bloody Lyon.parkeysainter wrote:If my memory serves me correctly, Collingwood were going to give us Sidebottom and Brown for Ball and draft picks once he wanted to leave but Lyon stuffed the trade up with his arrogance. We let Ball leave for a quarter chicken and chips plus a can of coke in the end.
They offered us (I believe) Goldsack as a direct swap for Ball (who we also didn't want).
BUT, IMHO, we were always going to get 'screwed' once Ball decided he was going to go to Collingwood. We were never going to get a 'fair shake' because of the machinations of Paul Connors who represented both Ball and Darren jolly.
The original deal was Ball for Collingwood's first round pick but that pick was then given to Sydney for Jolley (Connors other client). Once the Jolly deal was done Connors, and his client Ball, were always going to screw us over to get to their desired outcome.
Exactly right on the money.
And how dare Ross Lyon refuse to trade to Collingwood, a likely top 4 competitor in 2010.
Lyon did our team the best of favours. Roll the dice and not accept a measly pick 30 for ball and rather let ball roll into another club not a direct threat. But others on here wouldn't have that foresight.
In the end, RL was validated in some capacity. Sadly.
Hudghton had retired and Dawson was in bad form, so Goldsack was certainly the type of player that would have bolstered our list.
As for pick 30, after we'd just given up our first-round pick in that ill-fated Lovett trade, so a second round pick still wasn't to be sneered at.
Dress it up anyway you want, but the 2009 trade and draft period was an epic fail. No player taken in any trade or draft is still on our list now, so it's hard for me to to admire or justify Lyon's steely resolve at the time, especially when twelve months later, the Pies still got their premiership and all the club had to show for it was moths in their pockets.
( God help me)
