??? Yes he seriously missed mark.....BUT was then infringed .........Bernard Shakey wrote:Yes seriously. He missed the mark!kosifantutti wrote:Seriously?portosaint wrote:I didnt see much wrong with it. He got a clean slap on the ball after Jake spilt it. I was more disappointed he didnt clunk it. So was he
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What for?kosifantutti wrote:Yes he missed the mark. It still should have been a free.
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Don't believe I questioned your previous comment.BackFromUSA wrote:You didn’t notice it but I did. My previous comment was based PURELY on what I saw. No freezframe / replay / radio commentary.portosaint wrote:Yeah that looks bad. The umps don't get freeze frame, and in the flesh I didnt notice. We could probably go through the tape and pick about 20 out the same
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Contact above the shoulderBernard Shakey wrote:What for?kosifantutti wrote:Yes he missed the mark. It still should have been a free.
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Absolutely.kosifantutti wrote:Contact above the shoulderBernard Shakey wrote:What for?kosifantutti wrote:Yes he missed the mark. It still should have been a free.
That is a free kick. The umpire missed it.
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Yepbigred wrote:Absolutely.kosifantutti wrote:Contact above the shoulderBernard Shakey wrote:What for?kosifantutti wrote:Yes he missed the mark. It still should have been a free.
That is a free kick. The umpire missed it.
The end.
Bothe field umps corridor side of play.........if one had been boundary side would have seen infirngement.
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Given we only needed a point maybe Jack should have run a few more steps and blazed instead of trying to deliver a pinpoint pass?
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Sorry mate. It appears you were right.philtee wrote:A bit of an old-fashioned coathanger, but umpire was on wrong side to see it, and well disguised by Davis.
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After the event!kosifantutti wrote:Contact above the shoulderBernard Shakey wrote:What for?kosifantutti wrote:Yes he missed the mark. It still should have been a free.
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Irrelevant.Bernard Shakey wrote:After the event!kosifantutti wrote:Contact above the shoulderBernard Shakey wrote:What for?kosifantutti wrote:Yes he missed the mark. It still should have been a free.
You can’t make that sort of contact to an opponent in any situation.
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... against Carlisle.The Recruit wrote:It wasn’t that he was on the wrong side it was that he was gutless. Razor would have paid itphiltee wrote:A bit of an old-fashioned coathanger, but umpire was on wrong side to see it, and well disguised by Davis.
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If you handball then are collected high........a free kickBernard Shakey wrote:After the event!kosifantutti wrote:Contact above the shoulderBernard Shakey wrote:What for?kosifantutti wrote:Yes he missed the mark. It still should have been a free.
If you drop mark then collected high......a free kick
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Re: Carlisle free kick
Just seen it again, comment withdrawn.
That was a free kick.
That was a free kick.
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I was more pissed with the failure of the maggots to enforce the 50 metres for infringement of the protected zone.
Membry takes a mark inside 50 on the boundary.
Heath Shaw runs through the protected area from behind Membry to take up the mark.
50 metres every day except with these maggots.
50 metres puts Membrey in the goal square directly in front.
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50 metres puts Membrey in the goal square directly in front.
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bigcarl wrote:I thought he was infringed, despite not taking the mark to a ball directed two feet over his head. What did everyone else think?
GWS supporters on r/afl believes they were lucky as well.acockblockedorange wrote: - On r/afl 7 points 13 hours ago
I've said this before. Not sure if anyone else has observed this.
Today was another occasion where we bought into the hype, went in complacent and vastly underestimated our opposition. It has happened many times since we became a decent side and cost us a victory today. It's stupid foolishness and Leon needs to stop it.
Also if Cameron had kicked straighter.
Rough umpiring Sainters, a couple of non calls and we got away with some stuff we shouldn't have.
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How's the comment from Steve Mason...what a dick! The rules aren't that hard to comprehend, surely?Sainter_Dad wrote:bigcarl wrote:
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At that point - if the ball is 'dropped' then 75% of the marks paid in AFL would be 'dropped'.degruch wrote:How's the comment from Steve Mason...what a dick! The rules aren't that hard to comprehend, surely?Sainter_Dad wrote:bigcarl wrote:
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bigred wrote:Absolutely.kosifantutti wrote:Contact above the shoulderBernard Shakey wrote:What for?kosifantutti wrote:Yes he missed the mark. It still should have been a free.
That is a free kick. The umpire missed it.
The end.
If you know the rules, it is not even arguable. It was a free kick every day of the week. Unless you are a St Kilda player, that is.
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+1. I wonder if the situation was reversed, would the umpires have given GWS a free Kick?saynta wrote:bigred wrote:kosifantutti wrote:Bernard Shakey wrote:kosifantutti wrote:Yes he missed the mark. It still should have been a free.
If you know the rules, it is not even arguable. It was a free kick every day of the week. Unless you are a St Kilda player, that is.
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Like I’ve said previously, I couldn’t pick a free in real time or on the replay.
At a different angle though, it definitely seems like a free was there.
I do disagree with the consensus that it was a free everyday of the week, as I do think defenders are often allowed a bit of leaniancy when it comes to those contests.
But let’s say for arguments sake that it would be a free 9 times out of 10. I would also say that 9 times out of 10, free or no free, Carlisle marks! He has the best pair of hands in the team and he would normally have no trouble clunking that. Yes, he worked his butt off and was spent at the end, so no surprise he couldn’t take it one clean grab, but that’s just football.
At a different angle though, it definitely seems like a free was there.
I do disagree with the consensus that it was a free everyday of the week, as I do think defenders are often allowed a bit of leaniancy when it comes to those contests.
But let’s say for arguments sake that it would be a free 9 times out of 10. I would also say that 9 times out of 10, free or no free, Carlisle marks! He has the best pair of hands in the team and he would normally have no trouble clunking that. Yes, he worked his butt off and was spent at the end, so no surprise he couldn’t take it one clean grab, but that’s just football.
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Of course it should have been a free. But it was not called - like so many are not called. And just because some of us are paranoid about prejudicial umpiring doesn't mean they are not out to get us. There is a strong body of evidence to the hypothesis that umps as a matter of course penalise the Saints/lower sides by the either making or not making decisions. GWS must succeed for the AFL. That doesn't have to be a direct instruction just a well known umpy career improver. While we are losing and broke it will ever be thus I fear, so you start about 3 goals behind in practical terms. Not so? Well surely everyone laughed when that free was paid for two Giants colliding - that shows latent bias. These umps are only human, apparently.
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That was against Savage for edging Cameron out of it. I disagreed with the decision but it wasn’t nearly as bad as the Carlisle one.Yorkeys wrote:Well surely everyone laughed when that free was paid for two Giants colliding - that shows latent bias. These umps are only human, apparently.
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Re: Carlisle free kick
Was a free.............SydneySainter wrote:Like I’ve said previously, I couldn’t pick a free in real time or on the replay.
At a different angle though, it definitely seems like a free was there.
I do disagree with the consensus that it was a free everyday of the week, as I do think defenders are often allowed a bit of leaniancy when it comes to those contests.
But let’s say for arguments sake that it would be a free 9 times out of 10. I would also say that 9 times out of 10, free or no free, Carlisle marks! He has the best pair of hands in the team and he would normally have no trouble clunking that. Yes, he worked his butt off and was spent at the end, so no surprise he couldn’t take it one clean grab, but that’s just football.
But as you say Carlisle prob should have marked............
Steven disposal was the biggest error..............jake had separation from opponent............just needed a dinky kick (robert harvey like) so jake could have marked
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