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Post: # 1720010Post saintbob »

Why can’t our recruiters find ready made players like Tom Stewart or Tim Kelly?


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Post: # 1720013Post Ape_Man »

I think we have recruited a few but ‘game planned’ their talent out of them.

Just look at the under 18 highlights of a few our draft picks.

Could play. Now struggling.


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Post: # 1720016Post sainters85 »

saintbob wrote:Why can’t our recruiters find ready made players like Tom Stewart or Tim Kelly?
maybe they didn't think they were good boys from good families


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Post: # 1720017Post parkeysainter »

Think we tried that with Milera, Saad and Lee. All now gone and retired from AFL.

I think the Saints need to go for a ready made player or two around the 23-25 year old mark next year. They come cheap anyway but lets still draft the best 18 year old kids with our first 3 picks.


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Post: # 1720019Post One Eyed Saint »

Poor recruiting + poor player development = St Kilda 2018


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Post: # 1720020Post Ape_Man »

One Eyed Saint wrote:Poor recruiting + poor player development = St Kilda 2018
Being generous with time frame there Image


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Post: # 1720021Post SydneySainter »

Is it poor recruiting, poor development or a combo?

As woeful as Billings & Gresh are atm, would they be stars playing in a better team?


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Post: # 1720023Post Ape_Man »

Hard to answer.

But let’s use St Kilda’s recruitment method.

(Pulls out magic 8 ball)

Signs point to yes.


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Post: # 1720027Post skeptic »

SydneySainter wrote:Is it poor recruiting, poor development or a combo?

As woeful as Billings & Gresh are atm, would they be stars playing in a better team?
Well that’s it IMO...

I think our recruiters are a super easy target when the reality is that we’ve recruited a plethora of players that have started really really well and completely stalled in their development.

Saad, Milera, Lee, Siposs, Billings, Gresh, DMac, Lonie, Newnes, Webster... on and on it goes.

One can’t imagine someone that can pick that wrong so consistently.


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Post: # 1720028Post ace »

Maybe we could start to improve by putting together a recruitment team and a development team.


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ace wrote:Maybe we could start to improve by putting together a recruitment team and a development team.
A decent one at that. I hate to say I told you so about Elshaug and his team of numpties, but didn't I tell you?


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Post: # 1720048Post darylcowie »

Ape_Man wrote:Hard to answer.

But let’s use St Kilda’s recruitment method.

(Pulls out magic 8 ball)

Signs point to yes.
Seinfeld/Puddy fan eh?


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Post: # 1720068Post Ape_Man »

Seinfeld/Puddy fan eh?
Yeah, that’s right :)


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Post: # 1720069Post Sainter_Dad »

ace wrote:Maybe we could start to improve by putting together ....... a development team.
FTFY - I do not think the recruitment is the problem - I think it is the shackles we put on the kids once they don the RW&B.

The guys who we need to step up - would be tearing it up elsewhere - and this will be proven when they elect to go elsewhere.


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Post: # 1720075Post darylcowie »

Ape_Man wrote:
Seinfeld/Puddy fan eh?
Yeah, that’s right :)
Ok trivia question in three parts.

What sporting team did Puddy supprt?

What sport did the play?

What letter of their name did he have painted on his chest at the game?


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Post: # 1720082Post Ape_Man »

Testing me.

Devils

Have no idea.

D in a brilliant episode

Worthy of a high five??




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Post: # 1720089Post darylcowie »

I cant remember either, but D for devils sounds right and I think it was ice hockey.

Better resort to googling the details.


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Post: # 1720091Post darylcowie »

darylcowie wrote:I cant remember either, but D for devils sounds right and I think it was ice hockey.

Better resort to googling the details.
Well done re the D for devils.

I'll give you 1.5/3 for that.

It was the New Jersey Devils and it was ice hockey.

As for the Saints I thinl we should all get to the game on Saturday wearing a painted A on our chests (the A is definitely not for Alan or maybe it is come to think of it!).


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Post: # 1720094Post saynta »

Drake Huggins wrote:
ace wrote:Maybe we could start to improve by putting together a recruitment team and a development team.
A decent one at that. I hate to say I told you so about Elshaug and his team of numpties, but didn't I tell you?
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