Match stats v Geelong

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Re: Match stats v Geelong

Post: # 1719960Post congorozides »

Ok 24 hours seems fair but parkey has been peddling this stuff for a while now.


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congorozides wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:
Scollop wrote:
SaintPav wrote:Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

I understand why con is so angry when he just reads the first paragraph from parkey because stats are meaningless. It's not like we can just fine tune a few things and she'll be right mate!! We have big problems and there is no quick fix. We can talk as a club all we like about trying to win the contested possession count or other measures, but unless we turn over some players it's all a pipe dream.

I find it strange when a coach has to refer to his stat sheet when he's answering questions regarding what went wrong. First and foremost we are not hungry to win as a team. There's no spark, no plan B and no surprise game plan. Lack of motivation from the coaches and the footy department. The players seem like they have lost faith
I agree with your post somewhat. Never said there was a quickfix and stats mean solely everything. There is much more to it and my OP was mostly delving into statistical analysis of our last 3 games. I purposely highlighted 3 crucial areas as to why the side is failing to win at the moment. Alot of it does have to do with those 3 areas.

People like Con need to understand the above. He jumps at shadows like a scared cat.
You are so brave.

Seriously get a grip.

Shadows??? Have you seen us actually play? The last three games have been real life. Not shadows at all. Reality.

I want REGIME CHANGE

Obviously you are part of the current regime and are desperate to keep it going.

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People like you who keep telling fans everything is ok are just plain dishonest and simply leading people down the road of destruction until its too late to turn back.
People like YOU are leading us to Tassie. It is like the pied piper. You pretend to be positive - but you are leading people further down the drain.
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Re: Match stats v Geelong

Post: # 1719964Post congorozides »

Geelong Attribute St Kilda
188.4cm Height 188.0cm
88.7kg Weight 87.7kg
24yr 7mth Age 24yr 5mth
79.9 Games 78.1


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

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congorozides wrote:Ok 24 hours seems fair but parkey has been peddling this stuff for a while now.
Peddling what?

The Saints playing group is going ordinary at the moment and its not good enough. I will be the first to see that and tell anyone that. Things can and will improve. Its nowhere near a crisis and the club doesn't require regime change just yet. That will be analysed as it all should at the conclusion of the 2018 AFL Premiership season. Every position at the club will be analysed as it should. This is not the bloody towns and villages of Syria.

Deal with the statistical analysis as i posted in the OP and get off the VB longnecks.
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Re: Match stats v Geelong

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Can understand it all. Players, I assure you, are very peed off as well,


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tony74 wrote:Can understand it all. Players, I assure you, are very peed off as well,
at what or whom?


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

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Lol here we go.


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

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Maybe stats can help explain things. The last 3 weeks it seems we are playing with 2 less players on the field. Especially going forward. I don’t know what that tells us maybe bad disposal. There is something “off” at the moment. I think it might be time to give up on finals as a goal and maybe look at developing a different game plan. Very disappointed in our performances this year. Still time to improve for this year but the clock is ticking.


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

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chook23 wrote:
tony74 wrote:Can understand it all. Players, I assure you, are very peed off as well,
at what or whom?
He can’t answer that but I assume the person who is in charge of them.

Have you ever worked for an ineffectual manager? It’s fairly demotivating


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

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footyhead wrote:Maybe stats can help explain things. The last 3 weeks it seems we are playing with 2 less players on the field. Especially going forward. I don’t know what that tells us maybe bad disposal. There is something “off” at the moment. I think it might be time to give up on finals as a goal and maybe look at developing a different game plan. Very disappointed in our performances this year. Still time to improve for this year but the clock is ticking.
Good in theory but it takes a whole preseason to change a game plan it seems. We are robotic and stuck in a spiral. Good players from other teams can just toy with us.


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

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Put it this way. You will see a very different approach to the game next week. Very different. It doesn’t mean it will work but it will be different.


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tony74 wrote:Put it this way. You will see a very different approach to the game next week. Very different. It doesn’t mean it will work but it will be different.
from whom?


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

Post: # 1719983Post mr six o'clock »

Only one match stat really matters.

That's kicking effing GOALS .
19 . 40 in the last 3 weeks plus numerous sprayed shots .
If they could miraculously fix this then we could be a chance in games.
Nothing beats scoreboard pressure.


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

Post: # 1719984Post Ape_Man »

I’ve had a think about it, Richo has based his game plan on Pokémon Go.

Just randomly, chaotically, move around an area and something will appear.

Once it does flick madly forward and hope for a capture. I mean goal.




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Re: Match stats v Geelong

Post: # 1719986Post mbogo »

Leave Con alone - he is aggrieved after yet another pathetic performance, totally justified.
We need stats on turnovers, on kicking to 1 vs 3s, on handballing to people is worse positions, on atrocious kicking everywhere,
On desire and passion and on why no player seems to care.
On the times there was a kick forward to no one! <five years ago deja vu>


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

Post: # 1719987Post footyhead »

So SP you think we need to keep faith and it will turn around? I suppose Sydney did it and Hawthorn are currently doing it. Tigers won a GF doing it. I dunno I just don’t thiink I can believe that yet. Anyway all I see is it’s not working, maybe it’s just a tweak. I hope that the coaching and players know what they need to do.


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

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tony74 wrote:Put it this way. You will see a very different approach to the game next week. Very different. It doesn’t mean it will work but it will be different.
Good! Doesn't have to work. Richo needs to show he can adapt. We need to have players forward of the ball.


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

Post: # 1720018Post Teflon »

Shaggy wrote:
tony74 wrote:Put it this way. You will see a very different approach to the game next week. Very different. It doesn’t mean it will work but it will be different.
Good! Doesn't have to work. Richo needs to show he can adapt. We need to have players forward of the ball.
Richo needs to leave along with ELshaugh


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congorozides wrote:Seriously mods can you ban this bloke?

FFS.

He is a propaganda spinning machine who I assume is being paid.

Nobody else could be constantly on here spinning so much delusional BS.

Surely this is against forum rules? It is pretty obvious this clown works for the club in the marketing department.

It is just dead set insulting.
Ban him for what? Like the Club feels its important to spin propaganda to 100 people on Saintsational! <edited by mods>

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congorozides wrote:Seriously mods can you ban this bloke?

FFS.

He is a propaganda spinning machine who I assume is being paid.

Nobody else could be constantly on here spinning so much delusional BS.

Surely this is against forum rules? It is pretty obvious this clown works for the club in the marketing department.

It is just dead set insulting.
Shame on you congorozides. Porkey Sainter is the only poster on this forum who really knows what's going on. He knows everything about the club, including who's worked for it and when. Everything is fine. "Move along now, nothing to see here." Why? Because Porkey Sainter said so!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

Post: # 1720098Post parkeysainter »

Linton Lodger wrote:
congorozides wrote:Seriously mods can you ban this bloke?

FFS.

He is a propaganda spinning machine who I assume is being paid.

Nobody else could be constantly on here spinning so much delusional BS.

Surely this is against forum rules? It is pretty obvious this clown works for the club in the marketing department.

It is just dead set insulting.
Ban him for what? Like the Club feels its important to spin propaganda to 100 people on Saintsational! <edited by mods>

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Lol. Thanks for pointing out how ridiculous the accusations were. It was comedy central last night.


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Re: Match stats v Geelong

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congorozides wrote:
saynta wrote:
congorozides wrote:Seriously mods can you ban this bloke?

FFS.

He is a propaganda spinning machine who I assume is being paid.

Nobody else could be constantly on here spinning so much delusional BS.

Surely this is against forum rules? It is pretty obvious this clown works for the club in the marketing department.

It is just dead set insulting.
So is your post.
You are insulted by my post? In what way?

You think parkey is a bona fide poster?

f*** me.
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Re: Match stats v Geelong

Post: # 1720358Post congorozides »

tony74 wrote:Put it this way. You will see a very different approach to the game next week. Very different. It doesn’t mean it will work but it will be different.
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