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at the very least , Barks may make a return appearance on our little cesspit of disallusionment
and at the other very least , GT's players played for him
and on the last very least , he is a St Kilda person
at the very least , Barks may make a return appearance on our little cesspit of disallusionment
and at the other very least , GT's players played for him
and on the last very least , he is a St Kilda person
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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Re: bring back GT
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I'm on board, bring back GT but only if Michael Rick also returns ... because Rix, Rox, Rux remember
I'm on board, bring back GT but only if Michael Rick also returns ... because Rix, Rox, Rux remember
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Re: bring back GT
That plan's so crazy it might just work! We're on the same page asiu. I was thinking GT could be brought back in a role similar to Neil Balme. Not the coach but the King's hand type role. The one he should always have had. Watch this space!
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Re: bring back GT
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hey Teffers
(u know i luv ya)
hey Teffers
(u know i luv ya)
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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Re: bring back GT
GT hasn't Coached for 13 years!
Its not time to move on the Coach yet. However, we could use some of the swagger and self belief of GT's days.
GT used to post on this Forum, unfortunately some dickheads had be keyboard warriors and it didn't last long. It would have been great to hear GT's insights.
Its not time to move on the Coach yet. However, we could use some of the swagger and self belief of GT's days.
GT used to post on this Forum, unfortunately some dickheads had be keyboard warriors and it didn't last long. It would have been great to hear GT's insights.
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Re: bring back GT
GT's problem was also tactics (same as Richardson). The players played for him but he couldn't coach against the good coaches.
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
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Re: bring back GT
That's for sureLinton Lodger wrote: we could use some of the swagger and self belief of GT's days.
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I agree, bring back Thommo. Their effort yesterday (or lack of it) was a disgrace! I have been a member since way back in the Moorabbin days and even though we couldn't win we at least had a dip! Yesterday was the most insipid display I have ever seen! I agree as well that Thommo is a Saints person and the players DID play for him!
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Re: bring back GT
well , he could
but his 'support' crew didnt have the guts to back him in
catch us if u can ... was the game plan
'n we had the playing quality to execute it
but
the pencil pushers got involved
and played divide n conquer
instead of
get the right people around him
instead of losing three
we woulda won three
go the pencil pushers
thanx
but his 'support' crew didnt have the guts to back him in
catch us if u can ... was the game plan
'n we had the playing quality to execute it
but
the pencil pushers got involved
and played divide n conquer
instead of
get the right people around him
instead of losing three
we woulda won three
go the pencil pushers
thanx
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
.tipara waranta kani nina-tu.
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Re: bring back GT
Aren’t we pretty much just playing a GT style gameplan anyway?
Admittedly, GT had much better cattle at his disposal but also admittedly, the players did seem to respond to him.
Admittedly, GT had much better cattle at his disposal but also admittedly, the players did seem to respond to him.
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Re: bring back GT
Not at a coaching capacity. I don't see why GT wouldn't be appreciated in another role at the club, however.
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President?Sainternist wrote:Not at a coaching capacity. I don't see why GT wouldn't be appreciated in another role at the club, however.
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Re: bring back GT
I really liked GT and would love to have him back in the club in a director of football department type capacity... te problem with the man however is that the consistent feedback just seemed to be that he didn't play that well with others or let them do their jobs properly.
I think he's the best coach we ever had in terms of building up a culture, self-belief etc. and he's the only one I've known who fully embraced the notion of making the team more than just a football club which was an idea years ahead of it's time and unfortunately has been embraced by others but not us.
It just doesn't seem like it would ultimately work however
I think he's the best coach we ever had in terms of building up a culture, self-belief etc. and he's the only one I've known who fully embraced the notion of making the team more than just a football club which was an idea years ahead of it's time and unfortunately has been embraced by others but not us.
It just doesn't seem like it would ultimately work however
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Better a top end of town respected figure as President.Linton Lodger wrote:President?Sainternist wrote:Not at a coaching capacity. I don't see why GT wouldn't be appreciated in another role at the club, however.
Not sure 'good old peanut butter and jam sandwiches' fits the bill.
I will say the GT & RB era was an exciting time for supporters, pitty it could not hold together.
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I am surprised his nail bed didn't catch on.
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As most on here would surely know, I'm as big a fan of GT as anyone, but bringing him back now as coach would make us a laughing stock (to the extent that we aren't already one). I thought he was a pretty decent coach, but the AFL world as a whole didn't rate him: largely, I think, because he hadn't come up as an assistant to several established coaches and that made him seem like a blow-in, and this was reinforced in their minds by his use of corporate-speak, eg: "leadership group" (now used all over the Australian sporting world). I can't see him coming back to the club in any capacity.
As I have said on another thread, I think Richo has a few more weeks to go unless things turn around quickly. If they don't, then the club should look seriously at Eade, who is currently languishing in the Eastern Football League and (if he's interested) would presumably be ready to start any time. In the early 2000s, the Bulldogs were in a similar sort of mess to us (albeit with probably a slightly more talented playing list) and he completely turned them around. I would think he still has it in him. He's an innovative coach who's prepared to try new things when old ones don't seem to be working. And I can't recall ever hearing him use the word "pleasing" (he's too grumpy a bugger to do that).
As I have said on another thread, I think Richo has a few more weeks to go unless things turn around quickly. If they don't, then the club should look seriously at Eade, who is currently languishing in the Eastern Football League and (if he's interested) would presumably be ready to start any time. In the early 2000s, the Bulldogs were in a similar sort of mess to us (albeit with probably a slightly more talented playing list) and he completely turned them around. I would think he still has it in him. He's an innovative coach who's prepared to try new things when old ones don't seem to be working. And I can't recall ever hearing him use the word "pleasing" (he's too grumpy a bugger to do that).
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Re: bring back GT
Not as coach, but as Director of Football. He’d be sensational.
I look at Max Eberl at Borussia Monchengladbach - his strategic planning as DoF took them from crap to Champions League - and see that GT could do that for us.
The role that the AFL world has never grappled with...often confusing it with an semi-assistant coaching role or worse.
But then again, why would GT risk it? His business is absolutely flying.
I look at Max Eberl at Borussia Monchengladbach - his strategic planning as DoF took them from crap to Champions League - and see that GT could do that for us.
The role that the AFL world has never grappled with...often confusing it with an semi-assistant coaching role or worse.
But then again, why would GT risk it? His business is absolutely flying.
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Yeah but....when the mob circle with pitchforks, and stick Richo's head on a spike, Grant bows to the President's request that he take over in the interim...only until we find someone better, of course!evertonfc wrote:Not as coach, but as Director of Football. He’d be sensational.
I look at Max Eberl at Borussia Monchengladbach - his strategic planning as DoF took them from crap to Champions League - and see that GT could do that for us.
The role that the AFL world has never grappled with...often confusing it with an semi-assistant coaching role or worse.
But then again, why would GT risk it? His business is absolutely flying.
wtf, let's do it!
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GT president?...surly you tease LL! He will so enrage the AFL that they will make sure that our home base will be some small town in central China.Linton Lodger wrote:President?Sainternist wrote:Not at a coaching capacity. I don't see why GT wouldn't be appreciated in another role at the club, however.
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What might have started out as an april fool's day joke might just sprout wings and fly.
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the days of 2002-2006 were my favourite as a saints fan. knew at end of 2002 we were heading for something - so close to winning our last four games, rather than falling away like most young teams, seeing them develop and a star like hamill happily come over to us, gehrig reinvent himself as the top full forward in the comp. and didn't we play such exciting, fast footy. injuries and a little bad luck cost us a flag or two. then lyon took over and the whole team dynamism was gone. ultimately achieved a little more, but what could have been?
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Seriously, he failed dismally at Gold Coast. He's old school.meher baba wrote:As most on here would surely know, I'm as big a fan of GT as anyone, but bringing him back now as coach would make us a laughing stock (to the extent that we aren't already one). I thought he was a pretty decent coach, but the AFL world as a whole didn't rate him: largely, I think, because he hadn't come up as an assistant to several established coaches and that made him seem like a blow-in, and this was reinforced in their minds by his use of corporate-speak, eg: "leadership group" (now used all over the Australian sporting world). I can't see him coming back to the club in any capacity.
As I have said on another thread, I think Richo has a few more weeks to go unless things turn around quickly. If they don't, then the club should look seriously at Eade, who is currently languishing in the Eastern Football League and (if he's interested) would presumably be ready to start any time. In the early 2000s, the Bulldogs were in a similar sort of mess to us (albeit with probably a slightly more talented playing list) and he completely turned them around. I would think he still has it in him. He's an innovative coach who's prepared to try new things when old ones don't seem to be working. And I can't recall ever hearing him use the word "pleasing" (he's too grumpy a bugger to do that).
Its way too premature to write off Richo. However, as a hypothetical if we did need to go down that path, I'd make a short list of 2 and get one of them. Mark Thompson or Ross Lyon.
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Conan Ayres would be my choice. Not sure Port Melbourne would let him go.
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