5 main positives from JLT1

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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

Post: # 1712286Post CURLY »

Loved Longers ruckwork in the third his over the shoulder tap to Dunstan was silk.


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

Post: # 1712292Post saynta »

saintsRrising wrote:That was pretty much my thoughts too on the most positive aspects of the game tonight, though I will add one more.

The other real positive I thought was Savage's strong form where he continued on from his very good form of late last year where he was one of our best players in that period. Who knows, "Steak Knives" may well turn out to the best part of the Big M trade.
He was great. Followed on from his form in that crappy x game.


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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mightysainters wrote:Plenty of Positives:
1. Coffield and Hunter look like players
2. Paddy kicked goals and got his hand on the ball - needs it for confidence
3. Steven fit
4. Armo got through a game albeit rusty
5. Gresch will be very good this year, will accumulate a bit more and take next step to genuine B grader
Some negatives too:

1. Weller is gone
2. Long has a fair way to go, mign't make the grade.
3. Wright is a poor AFL player
4. Lonie is far too small for AFL
5. Longer is not a first class ruck.
6. Gilbert's best days are behind him.
7. Geary is a poor choice for captain
8. Brown is just a battler. The filth don't delist good players.
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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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Oh dear, all this from one preseason game where players are on restricted minutes, limited repeat efforts among other things, Sad Really, but enjoy venting people!!!!!


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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One positive that seems to have been missed. Marshall beat that pock faced bluebagger in the last quarter. Comprehensively.


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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saynta wrote:One positive that seems to have been missed. Marshall beat that pock faced bluebagger in the last quarter. Comprehensively.
That's how you saw it!!!!!

Average second ruck at best, that's how I see it, but your entitled to your opinion!!!!!


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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stonecold wrote:Oh dear, all this from one preseason game where players are on restricted minutes, limited repeat efforts among other things, Sad Really, but enjoy venting people!!!!!
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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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stonecold wrote:
saynta wrote:One positive that seems to have been missed. Marshall beat that pock faced bluebagger in the last quarter. Comprehensively.
That's how you saw it!!!!!

Average second ruck at best, that's how I see it, but your entitled to your opinion!!!!!

Have a look at the replay.


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I thought out TAKLING style was better - dragging the player down on the side of his body rather than bang in the back.
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Paddy was getting to the ball well
First action by Saint with ball to look down ground rather than backwards
Going fast and direct to forward line


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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stonecold wrote:
saynta wrote:One positive that seems to have been missed. Marshall beat that pock faced bluebagger in the last quarter. Comprehensively.
That's how you saw it!!!!!

Average second ruck at best, that's how I see it, but your entitled to your opinion!!!!!
Agree with Saynta, think Marshall competed better than Longer. Not sure the amount of exclamation marks are necessary...


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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saynta wrote:
mightysainters wrote:Plenty of Positives:
1. Coffield and Hunter look like players
2. Paddy kicked goals and got his hand on the ball - needs it for confidence
3. Steven fit
4. Armo got through a game albeit rusty
5. Gresch will be very good this year, will accumulate a bit more and take next step to genuine B grader
Some negatives too:

1. Weller is gone
2. Long has a fair way to go, mign't make the grade.
3. Wright is a poor AFL player
4. Lonie is far too small for AFL
5. Longer is not a first class ruck.
6. Gilbert's best days are behind him.
7. Geary is a poor choice for captain
8. Brown is just a battler. The filth don't delist good players.
Great observations, Saynta. Years of observation and seeing the same thing over and again have sharpened your judgement. All the things you mentioned in the negatives were apparent last year. Some people just want to be Pollyannas. That usually ends in disappointment.


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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Hey guys... this is meant to the positives thread. So please discuss the negatives in the match day thread :idea:


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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saynta wrote:
mightysainters wrote:Plenty of Positives:
1. Coffield and Hunter look like players
2. Paddy kicked goals and got his hand on the ball - needs it for confidence
3. Steven fit
4. Armo got through a game albeit rusty
5. Gresch will be very good this year, will accumulate a bit more and take next step to genuine B grader
Some negatives too:

1. Weller is gone
2. Long has a fair way to go, mign't make the grade.
3. Wright is a poor AFL player
4. Lonie is far too small for AFL
5. Longer is not a first class ruck.
6. Gilbert's best days are behind him.
7. Geary is a poor choice for captain
8. Brown is just a battler. The filth don't delist good players.
I agree on all these points.
The club has trained professionals who should know their jobs,
however being human, they are NOT infallible.
I think the staff at the club are just too invested in the emotional side of things,
or they believe blindly in their own judgement.
But they are wrong and flawed.
None of those guys would get a gig at another club, unless that club had 34 guys suspended.
The club has a history of poor decisions- Scott Watters was sacked and still got paid for 12 months of NO work,
showing that the club admitted their error of judgement; so folks "trusting the club's judgement"
scares me and makes me despair that we will ever drag ourselves up the ladder.
Bluescum beating us in"just the JLT" reveals how bad we might be this year.


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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saynta wrote:
mightysainters wrote:Plenty of Positives:
1. Coffield and Hunter look like players
2. Paddy kicked goals and got his hand on the ball - needs it for confidence
3. Steven fit
4. Armo got through a game albeit rusty
5. Gresch will be very good this year, will accumulate a bit more and take next step to genuine B grader
Some negatives too:

1. Weller is gone
2. Long has a fair way to go, mign't make the grade.
3. Wright is a poor AFL player
4. Lonie is far too small for AFL
5. Longer is not a first class ruck.
6. Gilbert's best days are behind him.
7. Geary is a poor choice for captain
8. Brown is just a battler. The filth don't delist good players.
I agree with almost everyting except the Lonie comment, I'm not a big fan of his, but he was close to our best player in the first half when we were quite poor. His stats for a permanent forward were pretty good and he provided plenty of great defensive efforts. far from our worst


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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saynta wrote:
mightysainters wrote:Plenty of Positives:
1. Coffield and Hunter look like players
2. Paddy kicked goals and got his hand on the ball - needs it for confidence
3. Steven fit
4. Armo got through a game albeit rusty
5. Gresch will be very good this year, will accumulate a bit more and take next step to genuine B grader
Some negatives too:

1. Weller is gone
2. Long has a fair way to go, mign't make the grade.
3. Wright is a poor AFL player
4. Lonie is far too small for AFL
5. Longer is not a first class ruck.
6. Gilbert's best days are behind him.
7. Geary is a poor choice for captain
8. Brown is just a battler. The filth don't delist good players.
I agree with almost everyting except the Lonie comment, I'm not a big fan of his, but he was close to our best player in the first half when we were quite poor. His stats for a permanent forward were pretty good and he provided plenty of great defensive efforts. far from our worst
I admit that Lonie has footy smarts but he is too small and easily brushed aside. Another 6 to 8 cm and 15k's maybe he would be a star. Cripps, the scummers forward/onballer, is a foot taller than him ffs.


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

Post: # 1712419Post skeptic »

It’s interesting with Lonie...

An average season has caused many to write him off but he’s actually looked half decent in the off-season so far. He was alright vs Carlton and decent in the AFLX vs Hawthorn too but many here just don’t want to hear.

As far as the small forward role goes, he’s certainly ahead of Weller and Wright in my book... not that that’s saying much.


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Room For Growth

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Hey 45th. I'm allowing for some growth in this saintly crew & would be surprised if the blues leap-frogged us on the ladder. I managed to see nada of the 1st. prac game but am glad Armo got through ok & just might be a regular contender once again in the middle. Paddy clocking up more game-time is just great to hear. I'm still feeling positive regarding the likes of Gresh, Sinclair, Steele & Billings growing further into their potential.
Excited by Clarke & Coffield but it's very early to be stoking expectations although I can understand the urge.


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1. Still no-one knows what JLT1 actually means.
2. We will all be dead before JLT1010937.
3. Practice games don't count for premiership points.
4. We now only miss sitters from 20 metres out rather than 10.
5. No animals were harmed during the making of the video of the match.


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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parkeysainter wrote:1) Coffield very good
2) Clark is all class and looks the goods
3) Jack Steven fit and got plenty of ball
4) Armo is back fit and got plenty of the ball
5) Paddy played a good game
Agreed.
Other positives:
- our only elite from last year was ordinary (Sinclair);
Billings wasn't playing;
Wright was playing and he won't make the 22 in the real season


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Re: Room For Growth

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the dome wrote:Hey 45th. I'm allowing for some growth in this saintly crew & would be surprised if the blues leap-frogged us on the ladder. I managed to see nada of the 1st. prac game but am glad Armo got through ok & just might be a regular contender once again in the middle. Paddy clocking up more game-time is just great to hear. I'm still feeling positive regarding the likes of Gresh, Sinclair, Steele & Billings growing further into their potential.
Excited by Clarke & Coffield but it's very early to be stoking expectations although I can understand the urge.
Weller needs to get his game working again. With Lonie and Wright, who has kicked the most goals in the last two seasons- I haven't checked? I think Lonie has good defensive skills, and Wright stronger in the bodywork, but we do really need a small forward to be kicking goals consistently.


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

Post: # 1712463Post Con Gorozidis »

There is no good in bleating about playing at someone else's home ground. If you want to be any good at any level of footy you need to win on other teams home ground.
It's going to be a long season if we whinge everytime we have to play a side on their home ground.
We will whinge against GWS. Whinge against Geelong. Whinge against the Suns.
That is three home grounds we need to play at this season.


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spert wrote:
the dome wrote:Hey 45th. I'm allowing for some growth in this saintly crew & would be surprised if the blues leap-frogged us on the ladder. I managed to see nada of the 1st. prac game but am glad Armo got through ok & just might be a regular contender once again in the middle. Paddy clocking up more game-time is just great to hear. I'm still feeling positive regarding the likes of Gresh, Sinclair, Steele & Billings growing further into their potential.
Excited by Clarke & Coffield but it's very early to be stoking expectations although I can understand the urge.
Weller needs to get his game working again. With Lonie and Wright, who has kicked the most goals in the last two seasons- I haven't checked? I think Lonie has good defensive skills, and Wright stronger in the bodywork, but we do really need a small forward to be kicking goals consistently.
The Gresh, surely


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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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perfectionist wrote:1. Still no-one knows what JLT1 actually means.
2. We will all be dead before JLT1010937.
3. Practice games don't count for premiership points.
4. We now only miss sitters from 20 metres out rather than 10.
5. No animals were harmed during the making of the video of the match.
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Re: 5 main positives from JLT1

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