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Interesting. I'm sure they are protecting him. He needs some calf's blood injections much like Chapman
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Thanks. So the whole breaking down comment is a very minor niggle that he is already over?BackFromUSA wrote:Didn't talk to Nathan because I didn't get to him before he disappeared but did have good to chat to others in the midfield group and all indications are he has a very minor injury and already over it and back into training. Apparently had one before Christmas too. So either the players are all hiding something or Nathan just left the track with a niggle / concern that caused this speculation as they all seemed to say.
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Or the players are hiding something. Was unusual that I couldn't find Nathan himself after the first half hour.DJ Higgins wrote:Thanks. So the whole breaking down comment is a very minor niggle that he is already over?BackFromUSA wrote:Didn't talk to Nathan because I didn't get to him before he disappeared but did have good to chat to others in the midfield group and all indications are he has a very minor injury and already over it and back into training. Apparently had one before Christmas too. So either the players are all hiding something or Nathan just left the track with a niggle / concern that caused this speculation as they all seemed to say.
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This is correct! My very good friend and fellow swamp drainer, jaxons, he is correct. Freeman broke down again. I was right there, believe me! Let me tell you, Freeman is too soft, believe me! He was down in Florida with me to play around or golf, and when I mentioned that I was re-nominating my very great friend, a great patriot, and the ender of slavery, Kathleen Hartnett, to be my new director of the Linen House Council on Environmental Quality https://www.thedailybeast.com/kathleen- ... od-for-you............ well folks, that leftist totalitarian that he is, believe me, Nathan Freeman, he just broke down. #makingCO2greatforyouagainjaxons wrote:Has broken down again.
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Update please?BackFromUSA wrote:Will try to find out tomorrow
I think bigfooty curse has struck Freeman.
The saints bigfooty board sponsored Wright until the start of 2016. 2016 turned into Wright’s best year where he played 10 games.
Since then they have sponsored Freeman. They only renewed last week just before Jaxons’ news came in.
I think before Wright they may have sponsored Lynch... not sure.
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Players are saying he is in full training but didn’t get the opportunity to speak to Nathan himself.
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Out of interest and no disrespect meant at all why would the players tell you the medical issues facing each playerBackFromUSA wrote:Players are saying he is in full training but didn’t get the opportunity to speak to Nathan himself.
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BackFromUSA wrote:Didn't talk to Nathan because I didn't get to him before he disappeared but did have good to chat to others in the midfield group and all indications are he has a very minor injury and already over it and back into training. Apparently had one before Christmas too. So either the players are all hiding something or Nathan just left the track with a niggle / concern that caused this speculation as they all seemed to say.
So he did break down? Did you just confirm it happened twice and then conclude that nothing happened?
What are the players hiding? They told you there have been two injuries...?
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BackFromUSA wrote:Didn't talk to Nathan because I didn't get to him before he disappeared but did have good to chat to others in the midfield group and all indications are he has a very minor injury and already over it and back into training. Apparently had one before Christmas too. So either the players are all hiding something or Nathan just left the track with a niggle / concern that caused this speculation as they all seemed to say.
So he did break down? Did you just confirm it happened twice and then conclude that nothing happened?
What are the players hiding? They told you there have been two injuries...? AND sounds like he's not in full training given he wasn't full training at the session you were at.
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Maybe they won’t. As I say - maybe they are protecting him. I don’t know for sure. However there are usually pretty open when discussing their summer training - for example Jack Newnes told me all about his knee clean up from pre Christmas and how he is tracking well now.DJ Higgins wrote:Out of interest and no disrespect meant at all why would the players tell you the medical issues facing each playerBackFromUSA wrote:Players are saying he is in full training but didn’t get the opportunity to speak to Nathan himself.
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HUGE difference between a minor injury and a break down in my book. Whether it was a minor injury or breakdown I can’t tell you but players say minor and term used by Jaxons was break down... but I was told he is now in full training.Spinner wrote:BackFromUSA wrote:Didn't talk to Nathan because I didn't get to him before he disappeared but did have good to chat to others in the midfield group and all indications are he has a very minor injury and already over it and back into training. Apparently had one before Christmas too. So either the players are all hiding something or Nathan just left the track with a niggle / concern that caused this speculation as they all seemed to say.
So he did break down? Did you just confirm it happened twice and then conclude that nothing happened?
What are the players hiding? They told you there have been two injuries...? AND sounds like he's not in full training given he wasn't full training at the session you were at.
Maybe tony74 can report.
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He has. Minor twinge is all.BackFromUSA wrote:HUGE difference between a minor injury and a break down in my book. Whether it was a minor injury or breakdown I can’t tell you but players say minor and term used by Jaxons was break down... but I was told he is now in full training.Spinner wrote:BackFromUSA wrote:Didn't talk to Nathan because I didn't get to him before he disappeared but did have good to chat to others in the midfield group and all indications are he has a very minor injury and already over it and back into training. Apparently had one before Christmas too. So either the players are all hiding something or Nathan just left the track with a niggle / concern that caused this speculation as they all seemed to say.
So he did break down? Did you just confirm it happened twice and then conclude that nothing happened?
What are the players hiding? They told you there have been two injuries...? AND sounds like he's not in full training given he wasn't full training at the session you were at.
Maybe tony74 can report.
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saynta wrote:He has. Minor twinge is all.BackFromUSA wrote:HUGE difference between a minor injury and a break down in my book. Whether it was a minor injury or breakdown I can’t tell you but players say minor and term used by Jaxons was break down... but I was told he is now in full training.Spinner wrote:BackFromUSA wrote:Didn't talk to Nathan because I didn't get to him before he disappeared but did have good to chat to others in the midfield group and all indications are he has a very minor injury and already over it and back into training. Apparently had one before Christmas too. So either the players are all hiding something or Nathan just left the track with a niggle / concern that caused this speculation as they all seemed to say.
So he did break down? Did you just confirm it happened twice and then conclude that nothing happened?
What are the players hiding? They told you there have been two injuries...? AND sounds like he's not in full training given he wasn't full training at the session you were at.
Maybe tony74 can report.
Minor twinge on a player that's had persistent hamstring issues for now 4 years...
I want Freeze to make it and am still hopeful even with the minor twinge but to argue it's not a breakdown or get hung up on the description of break down is totally off point. If you want to keep reporting twinges for the next few years... when would it constitute a break down in your books? After 8 years? 20?
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We can quibble about "broken down" vs minor strain vs "awareness" but true fact is that he did not play in the simulated practice match due to some hamstring issue. That is clearly a concern and it must be really hard for the kid. Seems a real long shot from here. Fingers crossed for him.
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All I can tell you is he injured his hamstring again a few weeks ago. Sorry for the dramatic broken down comment, but how else would you describe another significant hamstring injury that sees him out of action for 4 weeks?
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Given his chronic chronic history even the slightest hint of a "twinge" is a major disaster!
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Agree.jaxons wrote:All I can tell you is he injured his hamstring again a few weeks ago. Sorry for the dramatic broken down comment, but how else would you describe another significant hamstring injury that sees him out of action for 4 weeks?
He’s cooked now IMO
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Shame that it’s come down to this. 21-22 years old and hammies of a 35 year old Rioli.saintspremiers wrote:Agree.jaxons wrote:All I can tell you is he injured his hamstring again a few weeks ago. Sorry for the dramatic broken down comment, but how else would you describe another significant hamstring injury that sees him out of action for 4 weeks?
He’s cooked now IMO
It’s a very long shot for him now. Wish him luck.
For the club it is a very poor trade. 2 years without a senior game and still no games likelihood . All I can say is that at least Freeman is not Harley attitude wise.
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Is that something you feel in your bones or intestines?saintspremiers wrote:Agree.jaxons wrote:All I can tell you is he injured his hamstring again a few weeks ago. Sorry for the dramatic broken down comment, but how else would you describe another significant hamstring injury that sees him out of action for 4 weeks?
He’s cooked now IMO
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given hindsight , yes it could be 'filed' as a bad trade
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risk verses reward
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Significant? Since when does minor translate into significant ?jaxons wrote:All I can tell you is he injured his hamstring again a few weeks ago. Sorry for the dramatic broken down comment, but how else would you describe another significant hamstring injury that sees him out of action for 4 weeks?
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Basically no one has any idea how bad the injury was or even what it was. Tear, pull strain etc. Most likely wasted draft pick but most have written him off since last year so most likely he will play for Sandy and possibly be gifted a game at the end of the season for St Kilda
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A recurring "minor" injury (doesn't need to be major) equates to a major long-term injury; one that can't be shaken off/overcome. It is very significant.
A player who has done an ACL is usually rehabilitated and back after a year - an ACL is arguably less significant.
A player who has done an ACL is usually rehabilitated and back after a year - an ACL is arguably less significant.
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Perhaps when you’ve had major hamstring issues for years that have prevented you from playing and has meant a further month off football nowsaynta wrote:Significant? Since when does minor translate into significant ?jaxons wrote:All I can tell you is he injured his hamstring again a few weeks ago. Sorry for the dramatic broken down comment, but how else would you describe another significant hamstring injury that sees him out of action for 4 weeks?
A hamstring strain for Sebastian Ross is very different to one for Nathan Freeman
Just like a minor concussion for Jack Sinclair would have very different implications than it would for Paddy
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saynta wrote:Significant? Since when does minor translate into significant ?jaxons wrote:All I can tell you is he injured his hamstring again a few weeks ago. Sorry for the dramatic broken down comment, but how else would you describe another significant hamstring injury that sees him out of action for 4 weeks?
I seriously question what is wrong with you. Jaxon brings great info to this Forum and you and a few others constantly love to have a crack over the smallest of things.
Is it jealously? Is it a complex? I'm really interested and continually surprised there are ppl in this world like this...