Our best Tall Back Pocket in the past 50 years

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Our best Tall Back Pocket in the past 50 years

Post: # 1708559Post BackFromUSA »

Dempster?

Booth?

Before moving to full back ...

Shanahan

Hudghton?

Who else? Why?


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John McIntosh. In the era when ruckman rested in both back and forward pockets. An old-fashioned follower in the classic sense. One of our best whose career was tragically cut short by a knee injury.


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Post: # 1708564Post George27 »

Drake Huggins wrote:John McIntosh. In the era when ruckman rested in both back and forward pockets. An old-fashioned follower in the classic sense. One of our best whose career was tragically cut short by a knee injury.

Absolute gun. His knee injury cost us the 71 flag.


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George27 wrote:
Drake Huggins wrote:John McIntosh. In the era when ruckman rested in both back and forward pockets. An old-fashioned follower in the classic sense. One of our best whose career was tragically cut short by a knee injury.

Absolute gun. His knee injury cost us the 71 flag.
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If my memory serves me correctly John Macintosh could also stab pass on either foot, which I don't think anyone else could do.
Tragic his career was caught short by that knee injury, he was a ripper.


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Dont seem to remember JM playing BP more CHB who would often be thrown forward or have a run on the ball.A great of the game who could play almost any position

Reckon that knee cost us a flag or two


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The thing about the tall back pocket was that sometimes they played full back depending on the match up.Kevin Neale was a good example of this.


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Post: # 1708585Post David-Lee »

Hudgton was good but compares almost identical to Dempster at 191cm just heavier. He was good at coming in late and fisting the ball but his stats on most things are below Dempster. So basically I like Dempster for best small and tall pocket player


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bergsone wrote:Dont seem to remember JM playing BP more CHB who would often be thrown forward or have a run on the ball.A great of the game who could play almost any position

Reckon that knee cost us a flag or two
I agree he was a great tall player, freakish kick on both sides, beautiful torpedos, drop punts and drop kicks; incredibly mobile.

However, I can't remember him playing well in any final.
Further, Peter Knights' absence in 71 was probably as important a loss for the Hawks as JM was for us.

In 1972 we were as good as any team on our day (eg beat Richmond by 89 points at Moorabbin). In my view however both Carlton and Richmond were slightly better than us in terms of talent overall, and JM's presence may not have made a huge difference. Ditto 1973...

Who will ever know however?

What was annoying however, was watching his son Ashley playing for the WCE. He could have been a great FB or possibly HB for us, and who knows, we could have pinched a flag in 91 or 92 with him in the side. ???


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Barry Lawrence?
I know he wasn't that tall but some of the rucks were not much over 6 foot in those days!


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Post: # 1708598Post saynta »

BackFromUSA wrote:Dempster?

Booth?

Before moving to full back ...

Shanahan

Hudghton?

Who else? Why?
Booth? You are joking aren't you? He was a pretty ordinary footballer and bloke.


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Drake Huggins wrote:John McIntosh. In the era when ruckman rested in both back and forward pockets. An old-fashioned follower in the classic sense. One of our best whose career was tragically cut short by a knee injury.

By the length of the Flemington Straight


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bergsone wrote:Dont seem to remember JM playing BP more CHB who would often be thrown forward or have a run on the ball.A great of the game who could play almost any position

Reckon that knee cost us a flag or two
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No definitely played in the back pocket most of the time.


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Brian Sierakowski: He fortunately lived in the time when you could kick the ball straight out of bounds and not be penalised.

Stephen Roberts: He went from a complete dud to a very good player. Like Siera, his time at the Saints was short.

John McIntosh never really played in the back pocket. He was at CHB or on the ball.

Barry Lawrence: He won interstate selection in the position. Which reminds me of a funny story that Allan Jeans related. He was coaching the interstate side and Barry Lawrence was in it. The rest of the officials were drawn from other clubs as well, including the runner. At once stage, Jeans said to the runner, "Tell Tubby to stay on his man!". The runner set off, got half way and ran back. He exclaimed to a bewildered Allan Jeans, " Who the hell's Tubby?" Those who saw Barry Lawrence play his first game will realise why he got his nickname.


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Post: # 1708611Post George27 »

8bloggs wrote:If my memory serves me correctly John Macintosh could also stab pass on either foot, which I don't think anyone else could do.
Tragic his career was caught short by that knee injury, he was a ripper.
Absolutely correct. The day Allan Davis kicked 10 against Pies in early 70s at Moorabbin, McIntosh was hitting him lace out off either side with bullet stab passes.

For me he was a genuine ruckrover. As to the tall back pocket, I have Cowboy in that spot. In those days I recall Big Carl and McIntosh would be on the ball, Neale in BP, Bob Murray at fullback and Barry Lawrence CHB (though Barry could play just about anywhere )


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Post: # 1708613Post Joffa Burns »

Great off season topics by USA!

For mine McIntosh was a utility and wouldn't be classified a back pocket.
he'll feature in the best utility thread.

Absolute super star potential before being cut down by i njury.


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Post: # 1708872Post older saint »

i think Max or Shanahan as i see Dempster more HBF


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