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Re: Live draft thread

Post: # 1707684Post fugazi »

Ben Paton....phew thank God we got another half back flanker
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Re: Live draft thread

Post: # 1707685Post meher baba »

DJ Higgins wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
ctqs wrote:Here's Oscar Clavarino's showreel.

Nice in the air. Nice leap. Nice kick. Nice size.

But Jesus Christ he is slow.... I have seen grass grow quicker.
He makes Goddard look quick
Gee wizz...I just finished watching the highlights video and he hardly took more than a few steps in it. So how the heck did you guys work out that he was slow?

I reckon he looked pretty promising.


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Re: Live draft thread

Post: # 1707686Post DJ Higgins »

this draft is disappointing for me. 3 half back flankers and one key back. WTF


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Post: # 1707687Post SuperDuper »

Paton top 10 in 20meter sprint and jump as well
So is athletic


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Post: # 1707688Post WellardSaint »

SuperDuper wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
ctqs wrote:Here's Oscar Clavarino's showreel.

Nice in the air. Nice leap. Nice kick. Nice size.

But Jesus Christ he is slow.... I have seen grass grow quicker.
I did read that his 20 m was faster than Lever's
Maybe at the draft camp, the Clavicle swapped GPS transponders
with Higgins or someone fleet of foot

(Monty did that with Kosi the week before Kosi's last game, so Kosi would get picked,
helped by the big kms!!!)


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Re: Live draft thread

Post: # 1707689Post cwrcyn »

Paton's highlight reel is very underwhelming, especially when compare to Joel Garner, who was still available


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Post: # 1707690Post Con Gorozidis »

CURLY wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
ctqs wrote:Here's Oscar Clavarino's showreel.

Nice in the air. Nice leap. Nice kick. Nice size.

But Jesus Christ he is slow.... I have seen grass grow quicker.
You have no idea.
No idea?

I picked Clark and Coffield back on November 2. A whole three weeks before anyone else.

Are you saying Clavarino is fast?

Use your eyes.
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Re: Live draft thread

Post: # 1707692Post StPeter »

How many half-backs does the club need?


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Post: # 1707693Post SuperDuper »

Paton is a dead ringer for Baily Rice the way he plays... Not sure why we need another of the type


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Post: # 1707694Post Con Gorozidis »

cwrcyn wrote:Paton's highlight reel is very underwhelming, especially when compare to Joel Garner, who was still available
Absolutely bizarre that we would pass on Joel Garner at that pick.

Bizarre.

Seems like group think at work AFL recruiter style.


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Post: # 1707695Post whiskers3614 »

DJ Higgins wrote:this draft is disappointing for me. 3 half back flankers and one key back. WTF
Could always pick up another couple of small forwards seeing as the two previous batches have been so good! :? :?


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Post: # 1707696Post Con Gorozidis »

StPeter wrote:How many half-backs does the club need?
Dozens.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
ctqs wrote:Here's Oscar Clavarino's showreel.

Nice in the air. Nice leap. Nice kick. Nice size.

But Jesus Christ he is slow.... I have seen grass grow quicker.
You have no idea.
No idea?

I picked Clark and Coffield back on November 2. A whole three weeks before anyone else.

Are you saying Clavarino is fast?

Use your eyes.
Most had Clark and Coffield with our picks. As for Clavarino he is not slow.


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Re: Live draft thread

Post: # 1707701Post desertsaint »

maybe richo has hatched a cunning game plan, modelled on the all blacks, of running the ball up from the back 50 in a single line, dishing off horizontal or backwards handballs the entire way? worth a shot!?


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Post: # 1707703Post CURLY »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
cwrcyn wrote:Paton's highlight reel is very underwhelming, especially when compare to Joel Garner, who was still available
Absolutely bizarre that we would pass on Joel Garner at that pick.

Bizarre.

Seems like group think at work AFL recruiter style.
Garner has been overlooked 53 times there's a reason for that.


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Post: # 1707705Post DJ Higgins »

whiskers3614 wrote:
DJ Higgins wrote:this draft is disappointing for me. 3 half back flankers and one key back. WTF
Could always pick up another couple of small forwards seeing as the two previous batches have been so good! :? :?
How about an outside Mid. Jesus I am annoyed at our recruiters. I don't give a s@$t that the 3 HBF MAY play in the mid at some stage. How about a player who can next F#@king year
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CURLY wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
ctqs wrote:Here's Oscar Clavarino's showreel.

Nice in the air. Nice leap. Nice kick. Nice size.

But Jesus Christ he is slow.... I have seen grass grow quicker.
You have no idea.
No idea?

I picked Clark and Coffield back on November 2. A whole three weeks before anyone else.

Are you saying Clavarino is fast?

Use your eyes.
Most had Clark and Coffield with our picks. As for Clavarino he is not slow.
Can you back up your opinion?

3.18 in the 20m sprint at the draft combine.
Knighmare lists this as a weakness.
To my naked eye he looks very slow.

If you can provide evidence to rebut my three points - then be my guest and I will change my opinion.

Just saying 'I have no idea'. Or saying 'hes not slow' is not evidence.

Or dont you think you need evidence? Are your opinions so great they require no supporting evidence whatsoever?
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Post: # 1707707Post spiral3 »

what about Gryan Miers - Milneyish


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Re: Live draft thread

Post: # 1707710Post WellardSaint »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
cwrcyn wrote:Paton's highlight reel is very underwhelming, especially when compare to Joel Garner, who was still available
Absolutely bizarre that we would pass on Joel Garner at that pick.

Bizarre.

Seems like group think at work AFL recruiter style.

seriously, Joel Garner is in contention?
He's about 53 years old now?


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Post: # 1707712Post CURLY »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
ctqs wrote:Here's Oscar Clavarino's showreel.

Nice in the air. Nice leap. Nice kick. Nice size.

But Jesus Christ he is slow.... I have seen grass grow quicker.
You have no idea.
No idea?

I picked Clark and Coffield back on November 2. A whole three weeks before anyone else.

Are you saying Clavarino is fast?

Use your eyes.
Most had Clark and Coffield with our picks. As for Clavarino he is not slow.
Can you back up your opinion?

3.18 in the 20m sprint at the draft combine.
Knighmare lists this as a weakness.
To my naked eye he looks very slow.

If you can provide evidence to offset my three points - then be my guest.

Just saying 'I have no idea'. Or saying 'hes not slow' is not evidence.

Or dont you need evidence? Are your opinions so great they require no supporting evidence whatsoever?
He just got drafted and was rated Top 10 last year. Doesn't happen if your slow intercept defender. Have seen him live and slow he ain't.


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Post: # 1707713Post SuperDuper »

CURLY wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
cwrcyn wrote:Paton's highlight reel is very underwhelming, especially when compare to Joel Garner, who was still available
Absolutely bizarre that we would pass on Joel Garner at that pick.

Bizarre.

Seems like group think at work AFL recruiter style.
Garner has been overlooked 53 times there's a reason for that.
So had Paton!


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Post: # 1707714Post Con Gorozidis »

WellardSaint wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
cwrcyn wrote:Paton's highlight reel is very underwhelming, especially when compare to Joel Garner, who was still available
Absolutely bizarre that we would pass on Joel Garner at that pick.

Bizarre.

Seems like group think at work AFL recruiter style.

seriously, Joel Garner is in contention?
He's about 53 years old now?
Surprised Malcolm Marshall hasnt been snapped up to be honest.
Rumour has it we are looking at Andy Roberts in the Rookie draft...


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Post: # 1707715Post barneyboyz »

Excuse my lack of posting, but of these four selections, can any of them kick a football? That is my main question and should be the main reason for selection. Every player in the first three rounds should want it, but I only want players that can deliver a football


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Post: # 1707717Post fugazi »

Oscar Clavarino looks really good to me. Seems to move ok and is a beautiful intercept mark.


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Post: # 1707718Post shrodes »

barneyboyz wrote:Excuse my lack of posting, but of these four selections, can any of them kick a football? That is my main question and should be the main reason for selection. Every player in the first three rounds should want it, but I only want players that can deliver a football


Beautiful kick of the footy


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