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Drake Huggins wrote:He was always going to leave. He was talked about for the CEO role at Hawthorn, with Caro saying he would probably get that job. Lethlean's departure also had the AFL sniffing around. Ameet did mention earlier in the year that if he took another job he would definitely hang around until the end of the trade period. Promise kept. A big promotion on the road to the Death Star at Docklands. Highly regarded in the industry and regarded as a possible future CEO of the AFL. Hard to replace, but there are many who want to work in the AFL. There won't be a shortage of contenders.

Agree with all of that, but I find it a really odd choice given Peter Gordon is notoriously hard to get along with. Surely he’s taken on the riskiest CEO assignment going around?
Maybe he wants to test his legal nous against Mr Gordon, he might learn a thing or 2 from an expert about being overly litigious. :roll:
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Post: # 1705125Post derby Street »

Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.


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Post: # 1705126Post bigcarl »

Thanks for your service Ameet. Next please.


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Post: # 1705127Post spert »

It's a business, and AB has moved on to a major executive position elsewhere and good luck to him. I'm sure we will get another capable person in the role, it's not rocket science.


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I have been trying to understand the swapping of our 2018 draft 2nd round draft pick (pick 27 if we finish in the same spot) for pick 34 in 2017.
A loss of 7 places worth 161 draft points.
Are they crazy ? But then
We threw in 2017 picks 59 and 63 for 2018 pick 73 (if Adelaide finish 2nd again)
A loss 261 draft points. What the F?
Rumour is pick 2018 is going to be the superior draft.
Why would you give away 422 draft points like that.
That's like swapping an early an early 2nd round pick for an early 3rd round pick.
Bonkers !!!

Did someone get the maths wrong ?
The deal was submitted with minutes to spare - did someone muck up the maths in a panic ?
Did they sign a deal that was different to what had been agreed ?
Did someone do the deal without Bains, because Bains does not make this sort of stuff up ?

But now I think maybe it was a last minute before I leave, F. U ?


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Waltzing St Kilda wrote:Jason Cripps.
Smartest thing I’ve seen on this site in ages.
It would make a lot of sense. Didnt someone say he has just moved to Melbourne?

Cripps would be a good fit for trout's job, don't know how he would go as a COO,


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ace wrote:I have been trying to understand the swapping of our 2018 draft 2nd round draft pick (pick 27 if we finish in the same spot) for pick 34 in 2017.
A loss of 7 places worth 161 draft points.
Are they crazy ? But then
We threw in 2017 picks 59 and 63 for 2018 pick 73 (if Adelaide finish 2nd again)
A loss 261 draft points. What the F?
Rumour is pick 2018 is going to be the superior draft.
Why would you give away 422 draft points like that.
That's like swapping an early an early 2nd round pick for an early 3rd round pick.
Bonkers !!!

Did someone get the maths wrong ?
The deal was submitted with minutes to spare - did someone muck up the maths in a panic ?
Did they sign a deal that was different to what had been agreed ?
Did someone do the deal without Bains, because Bains does not make this sort of stuff up ?

But now I think maybe it was a last minute before I leave, F. U ?
We now don't have 2nd or 3rd round picks for 2018 (the 'super draft') unless we trade players our for those picks. Is that right?


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Post: # 1705164Post Bernard Shakey »

Thanks Ameet you've served us well. Good luck for the future!


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Post: # 1705167Post Con Gorozidis »

derby Street wrote:Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.
Hes not no good.
He is just average. Nothing wrong with that. Not potting him. Just challenging the rubbish that he is a guru. 6 years. Zero finals. Zero finals won. Last result 11th.
The spin is ridiculous.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
derby Street wrote:Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.
Hes not no good.
He is just average. Nothing wrong with that. Not potting him. Just challenging the rubbish that he is a guru. 6 years. Zero finals. Zero finals won. Last result 11th.
The spin is ridiculous.
Its getting boring Con.


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Bernard Shakey wrote:Thanks Ameet you've served us well. Good luck for the future!
+1 ! Well said BS.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
derby Street wrote:Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.
Hes not no good.
He is just average. Nothing wrong with that. Not potting him. Just challenging the rubbish that he is a guru. 6 years. Zero finals. Zero finals won. Last result 11th.
The spin is ridiculous.
You keep saying "zero finals.. zero finals won". The second part of that sentence seems a bit unnecessary. It's kind of annoying actually. Please stop.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
derby Street wrote:Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.
Hes not no good.
He is just average. Nothing wrong with that. Not potting him. Just challenging the rubbish that he is a guru. 6 years. Zero finals. Zero finals won. Last result 11th.
The spin is ridiculous.
+1000

Bains has a double degree in law and banking/finance, whoopee bloody doo.
He had a job, just one job- the Chief of Operations.
I think he is just bog average at his job and I strongly suggest that, like a certain dwarf former coach, he is simply brilliant at interview
but middle of the road when the bloody rubber hits the road.

He has NOT given any tangible results or improvements, as Con says.
He is just a GOP and is NOT anything special
Someone on his pay packet should be judged on his performance, and name 3 improvements that he has brought to the club, anyone, come on

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The facts are that he inherited a list that was screwed along with a salary cap that was screwed.

No he was no messiah but given the cards he was dealt I would suggest he did a reasonable job.


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Con’s got his own monkey...


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
derby Street wrote:Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.
Hes not no good.
He is just average. Nothing wrong with that. Not potting him. Just challenging the rubbish that he is a guru. 6 years. Zero finals. Zero finals won. Last result 11th.
The spin is ridiculous.

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/heal ... z4b2y.html


""While it would be unrealistic to eliminate our negative thoughts altogether, psychologists have found that dwelling on them excessively can be detrimental both mentally and physically as essential parts of a cell's DNA, its telomeres, become shortened when stressed, affecting the way cells age""
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saynta wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
derby Street wrote:Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.
Hes not no good.
He is just average. Nothing wrong with that. Not potting him. Just challenging the rubbish that he is a guru. 6 years. Zero finals. Zero finals won. Last result 11th.
The spin is ridiculous.

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/heal ... z4b2y.html


""While it would be unrealistic to eliminate our negative thoughts altogether, psychologists have found that dwelling on them excessively can be detrimental both mentally and physically as essential parts of a cell's DNA, its telomeres, become shortened when stressed, affecting the way cells age""
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Required literature for some on this forum! :D :lol: :D


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parkeysainter wrote:
saynta wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
derby Street wrote:Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.
Hes not no good.
He is just average. Nothing wrong with that. Not potting him. Just challenging the rubbish that he is a guru. 6 years. Zero finals. Zero finals won. Last result 11th.
The spin is ridiculous.

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/heal ... z4b2y.html


""While it would be unrealistic to eliminate our negative thoughts altogether, psychologists have found that dwelling on them excessively can be detrimental both mentally and physically as essential parts of a cell's DNA, its telomeres, become shortened when stressed, affecting the way cells age""
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Required literature for some on this forum! :D :lol: :D
I would definitely agree. Sometimes people don't even realise they're doing it


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Post: # 1705238Post MickThomas »

saynta wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
derby Street wrote:Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.
Hes not no good.
He is just average. Nothing wrong with that. Not potting him. Just challenging the rubbish that he is a guru. 6 years. Zero finals. Zero finals won. Last result 11th.
The spin is ridiculous.

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/heal ... z4b2y.html


""While it would be unrealistic to eliminate our negative thoughts altogether, psychologists have found that dwelling on them excessively can be detrimental both mentally and physically as essential parts of a cell's DNA, its telomeres, become shortened when stressed, affecting the way cells age""
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Great
Just great
Now i'm MORE depressed


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MickThomas wrote:
saynta wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
derby Street wrote:Can't wait to see who the next poor prick at the Saints that Con "pots" continually and irrationally. One thing for sure is that Mr Misery guts will be sure to put a negative spin on whoever is appointed. If Ameet was no good I cannot understand why he has just been appointed the CEO of an AFL club. The best of luck Ameet - I suspect you will need it working under Mr Gordon's control.
Hes not no good.
He is just average. Nothing wrong with that. Not potting him. Just challenging the rubbish that he is a guru. 6 years. Zero finals. Zero finals won. Last result 11th.
The spin is ridiculous.

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/heal ... z4b2y.html


""While it would be unrealistic to eliminate our negative thoughts altogether, psychologists have found that dwelling on them excessively can be detrimental both mentally and physically as essential parts of a cell's DNA, its telomeres, become shortened when stressed, affecting the way cells age""
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Great
Just great
Now i'm MORE depressed
:D :D Cheer up mate, I think the glass is tad over half full.
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What would the remuneration difference between what Baines was getting with us and the CEO of the dogs be ?
I have no idea but I reckon Peter Summers would know.
So, Baines is so highly regarded by so many and yet we don't see fit to pay him above award and keep him on ?

I think to be successful as a club when we strike gold (like Baines) we need to hang on to it.
From what I'm reading in the media there are no suitable replacements to choose from.

If we keep having our pocket picked of quality can we ever reach the ultimate ?

I feel like asking these questions of the club.


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Is "no finals" directly attributed to Baines ?
I'd doubt it.

He's highly regarded enough for the Dogs to seek him out as CEO.


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Junior wrote:The facts are that he inherited a list that was screwed along with a salary cap that was screwed.

No he was no messiah but given the cards he was dealt I would suggest he did a reasonable job.
Someone put up a list of what was drafted under Lyon and it was absolute garbage what was brought in.


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howlinwolf wrote:Is "no finals" directly attributed to Baines ?
I'd doubt it.

He's highly regarded enough for the Dogs to seek him out as CEO.
Yeah, aparently Bains was supposed to kick 100 goals a year and lead us to the GF
Fact is, our recruiting from 2003-2010, before he came in, was horrid. You cant fix that overnight

And apparently, the bulldogs looked around for someone who was bog average in their lower role to become their CEO
They loved the way Baines was bad at his job at the saints and could not go past him as the leader of their club
:shock: :roll:


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SuperDuper wrote:
howlinwolf wrote:Is "no finals" directly attributed to Baines ?
I'd doubt it.

He's highly regarded enough for the Dogs to seek him out as CEO.
Yeah, aparently Bains was supposed to kick 100 goals a year and lead us to the GF
Fact is, our recruiting from 2003-2010, before he came in, was horrid. You cant fix that overnight

And apparently, the bulldogs looked around for someone who was bog average in their lower role to become their CEO
They loved the way Baines was bad at his job at the saints and could not go past him as the leader of their club
:shock: :roll:
Yeah but when is he picking up his coleman?


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