Sam Collins worth a shot

[silverhalo]

I think rather than look at trying to bring Tomlinson into the club and possibly having to part with Pick 7 or 8, we have a serious look at Sam Collins, who was recently delisted by Freo.

Just reading this article, it seems to me that he wasn't given a go at Freo and could be a good player if given a second chance. He's 192 cm, he played most of this year at full back for Peel Thunder and was voted their best player 6 times this year, which us unheard of as a full back. I see him as more than adequate cover for Brown / Carlisle should one of them go down next year, and we don't have to sell the farm for him as we'd pick him up for nothing.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-15/d ... rest-grows

Thoughts??

[beebarry]

Agreed - just posted that on another thread .

Collins and Talia I think are totally worth a punt.....

[silverhalo]

Agreed - just posted that on another thread .

Collins and Talia I think are totally worth a punt.....

+1......agree with Talia, just need to remind him that he's on his last chance and will be shown the door if he stuffs up at all.

[Con Gorozidis]

Agree. I like Collins. I reckon he is better than Talia.

[damienc]

Agree. I like Collins. I reckon he is better than Talia.

Agree. I hope we pick him up. Definitely worth a go.

[Con Gorozidis]

Only 23 years old. Get him for nothing. Minimum wage.
Nothing to lose.

[bigballs]

Just finished reading the article.
Definitely worth a look for sure.

[saintsRrising]

Then again he is only 192 cm and Tom Lee was smashing it in the WAFL at FF and FB....

So I am not sure that he is key position material at AFL level and so do we need another so so tall flanker?

[saintsRrising]

Only 23 years old. Get him for nothing. Minimum wage.
Nothing to lose.

Though we only have so many spots on the list, whether it be the main list or rookie list.

[saynta]

Only 23 years old. Get him for nothing. Minimum wage.
Nothing to lose.

Though we only have so many spots on the list, whether it be the main list or rookie list.

We have to use three picks in the draft and at the moment we only have three vacancies on the main list and maybe one on the rookie list.

[saintsRrising]

Only 23 years old. Get him for nothing. Minimum wage.
Nothing to lose.

Though we only have so many spots on the list, whether it be the main list or rookie list.

We have to use three picks in the draft and at the moment we only have three vacancies on the main list and maybe one on the rookie list.

Well at present we have 7 and 8. Leaves one. So is he the best available for our next pick? I think probably not.



Rookie. Well only one spot and I think there is not real need to use it on a third tall.

[Con Gorozidis]

I think Nate Brown is almost cooked. If Carlisle goes down we are stuffed.

Are we really going to keep the five Ruckmen on the list?

[Junior]

Has anyone actually seen him play?

And if you have what are his strengths and weaknesses ?

[Con Gorozidis]

Has anyone actually seen him play?

And if you have what are his strengths and weaknesses ?

Solid player. Recruited from Box Hill. Reads the ball well. Good mark.

Weaknesses. Probably athleticism. Not a great rebounder.

[Junior]

Has anyone actually seen him play?

And if you have what are his strengths and weaknesses ?

Solid player. Recruited from Box Hill. Reads the ball well. Good mark.

Weaknesses. Probably athleticism. Not a great rebounder.

Thanks Con,

He has completely flown under my radar don't even recall seeing him at Box Hill.

[ace]

Only 23 years old. Get him for nothing. Minimum wage.
Nothing to lose.

Though we only have so many spots on the list, whether it be the main list or rookie list.

We have to use three picks in the draft and at the moment we only have three vacancies on the main list and maybe one on the rookie list.

It does not look good for Holmes.
He probably was left on the list uncontracted in the hope another club might take him or another of our ruckmen.

[Wrote for Luck]

I think Nate Brown is almost cooked. If Carlisle goes down we are stuffed.

Are we really going to keep the four Ruckmen on the list?

not sure Browny is almost cooked, played a fair few games last year and did pretty well, but if the above is true enough, then surely we need a more proven prospect?

from what I've read and watched, don't think Collins or Talia are right. the recruiters are right to target better long term prospect now in someone like Tomlinson or Haynes (kpd stocks).

[mr six o'clock]

I would prefer his brother Tom !

[outside66]

Then again he is only 192 cm and Tom Lee was smashing it in the WAFL at FF and FB....

So I am not sure that he is key position material at AFL level and so do we need another so so tall flanker?

Matthew Scarlett was 192cm and he wasn't too shabby as a tall flanker!

[saintsRrising]

Then again he is only 192 cm and Tom Lee was smashing it in the WAFL at FF and FB....

So I am not sure that he is key position material at AFL level and so do we need another so so tall flanker?

Matthew Scarlett was 192cm and he wasn't too shabby as a tall flanker!

Yes and Trevor Barker was short too, as was Max.

However I doubt that Collins is going to be as good as any of them.

He was touted as being a KPP. From what I have read he would not be up to this at AFL level based on lack of talent and height.

Personally at present I want mids, mids and mids. But yes am ok if they back up the key defender role. I do not see much value in a third tall back though when have Robbo, Gilbo, Wright, Webster....

[beartalbot]

Most sites have him listed as 194cm, similar to Nathan Brown.

On researching his first season with Freo in 2016, it shows that he played 12 games for the year, all in the last half of the season.
His Supercoach points over this period were acceptable, with scores of 100 against Essendon, 126 against Collingwood and 92 in the last round against GWS.
He finished the season with an average Supercoach points total of 72.
It appears that Lyon didn't give him any opportunities in 2017, as he played only 2 games, despite winning Peel Thunders best and fairest as well as being B.O.G. in 6 games, despite playing at fullback.
Definitely worth looking at IMO.

[Con Gorozidis]

I think Nate Brown is almost cooked. If Carlisle goes down we are stuffed.

Are we really going to keep the four Ruckmen on the list?

not sure Browny is almost cooked, played a fair few games last year and did pretty well, but if the above is true enough, then surely we need a more proven prospect?

from what I've read and watched, don't think Collins or Talia are right. the recruiters are right to target better long term prospect now in someone like Tomlinson or Haynes (kpd stocks).

Target?
What does that mean? Call their managers?
No point talking about Tomlinson or Haynes unless we can actually realistically get them.

[Con Gorozidis]

Just heard him on Trade Radio.
Will be in the AFL in 2018.

[Impatient Sainter]

Just heard him on Trade Radio.
Will be in the AFL in 2018.

Yep sounds like a solid citizen. Won Peel Thunders B&F in a premiership year so must go ok

[Drake Huggins]

We last overlooked a 192 cm defender who's gone on to go ok. Say hello to Kyle Hartigan. We passed. Adelaide didn't. He's going ok, isn't he? There are potential opp. shop bargains everywhere. Imagination, sainters.