Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
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Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
Interesting reading that Seb clocked the 3rd fastest time this year on the field at 35.0kmh only behind impey and Toby Greene.
Funny how he was thought to be a plodder by some, but he actually has some wheels.
Funny how he was thought to be a plodder by some, but he actually has some wheels.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
Nothing like an inconvenient fact to destroy a faulty belief. We are not slow as a group. We have quick players. Our issue is use. Nothing on the field moves faster than the football.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
This year, Seb really developed an incredibly powerful running style/technique. There were a few occasions when he put in a 10 or 20m burst that was incredibly quick.
Conditions are that it is a very powerful - meaning brief - burst and that he needs a rolling start. He's still not dynamite off the mark.
Conditions are that it is a very powerful - meaning brief - burst and that he needs a rolling start. He's still not dynamite off the mark.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
Agree our ball use and poor decision making ( like handballing to a stationary target) makes us look slow at timesGregPackhamsHeadband wrote:Nothing like an inconvenient fact to destroy a faulty belief. We are not slow as a group. We have quick players. Our issue is use. Nothing on the field moves faster than the football.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
+!GregPackhamsHeadband wrote:Nothing like an inconvenient fact to destroy a faulty belief. We are not slow as a group. We have quick players. Our issue is use. Nothing on the field moves faster than the football.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
In our losses this season, especially our big losses, the opposition midfielders have been quicker to the ball and run away from our midfielders. Our mids are not natural sprinters though Steven is an accelerator off the mark, the rest are not. Don't mistake speed over a set distance as an indicator- it's more about how you run and where you apply your run, and the static movement of our midfield at centre bounces and at boundary clearances is one of our weak points. I would like to see our midfield spend a lot of time with a running coach over summer- especially a sprinting coach.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
The majority of true onballers aren't quick players so to speak. Well, the consistent and good ones anyway. Its pretty rare to get a bloke like J. Steven or Rob Harvey for example who can just turn on the warp drive when required after still playing and running in the middle all day. Judd and Dangerfield are other examples. They're kind of freaks of nature. If we look at the majority of our onballers over the last 10-20 years, they were pretty one paced. E.g. Hayes, Ball, Dal Santo, Goddard. Our current crop of mids are quite one paced too bar J. Steven. At the end of the day though, if these blokes were playing VFL or suburban footy every week they would look mega quick out there.
We need to really draft a quality mid that can go warp 10 when needed to give something different to our midfield.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
BringBackMadDog wrote:Interesting reading that Seb clocked the 3rd fastest time this year on the field at 35.0kmh only behind impey and Toby Greene.
Funny how he was thought to be a plodder by some, but he actually has some wheels.
Funny that.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
That is amazing.
I don't think anyone considered him to be quick a few years ago, he definitely had trouble taking off and I can clearly remember his opponents streaming away from him at times. It's a testament to his hard work, I thought pace was going to be an issue for him like most.
I don't think anyone considered him to be quick a few years ago, he definitely had trouble taking off and I can clearly remember his opponents streaming away from him at times. It's a testament to his hard work, I thought pace was going to be an issue for him like most.
http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=77067BringBackMadDog wrote:Seb is a true inside mid, he gets a lot of the ball in close so a lot of his possessions go unnoticed. He is not one who will run and spread, his handball in close is great but he is not a penetrating kick and has average pace. In saying that, if he can be the same sort of player as his cousin or Josh Kennedy then we will be real winners.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
Where did you read it?BringBackMadDog wrote:Interesting reading that Seb clocked the 3rd fastest time this year on the field at 35.0kmh only behind impey and Toby Greene.
Funny how he was thought to be a plodder by some, but he actually has some wheels.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/m ... 864f97eed5kosifantutti wrote:Where did you read it?BringBackMadDog wrote:Interesting reading that Seb clocked the 3rd fastest time this year on the field at 35.0kmh only behind impey and Toby Greene.
Funny how he was thought to be a plodder by some, but he actually has some wheels.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
He was always quicker than posters on here gave him credit for but has got quicker each of the past two years.dragit wrote:That is amazing.
I don't think anyone considered him to be quick a few years ago, he definitely had trouble taking off and I can clearly remember his opponents streaming away from him at times. It's a testament to his hard work, I thought pace was going to be an issue for him like most.
http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=77067BringBackMadDog wrote:Seb is a true inside mid, he gets a lot of the ball in close so a lot of his possessions go unnoticed. He is not one who will run and spread, his handball in close is great but he is not a penetrating kick and has average pace. In saying that, if he can be the same sort of player as his cousin or Josh Kennedy then we will be real winners.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
I think he took the Acme brand pace pills. The ones Wile E. Coyote took when he was trying to catch the Road Runner.
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something that some better judges of talent have flowering known for ages, right mate?saynta wrote:Funny that.BringBackMadDog wrote:Interesting reading that Seb clocked the 3rd fastest time this year on the field at 35.0kmh only behind impey and Toby Greene.
Funny how he was thought to be a plodder by some, but he actually has some wheels.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
There is a difference between maximum peak speed (which I assume is what the article is quoting), and that burst of acceleration from a standing start that some players have.
If AFL it is mainly that burst over 10-20m that counts.
Stanley for example won the GF sprint, but it took hima bit to get going.
Plugga on the other hand while he may have struggled to run any distance was very quick off the mark.
If AFL it is mainly that burst over 10-20m that counts.
Stanley for example won the GF sprint, but it took hima bit to get going.
Plugga on the other hand while he may have struggled to run any distance was very quick off the mark.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
I reckon it's the speed of his disposals- he's quick to just hhandball or kick in mad panic, not caring where it goes.
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In 1987, Plugger was the quickest at the club over 20 metres. Explosive. No wonder he was so good on the lead and amazingly effective when the ball hit the ground. Freak.saintsRrising wrote:There is a difference between maximum peak speed (which I assume is what the article is quoting), and that burst of acceleration from a standing start that some players have.
If AFL it is mainly that burst over 10-20m that counts.
Stanley for example won the GF sprint, but it took hima bit to get going.
Plugga one the other hand while he may have struggled to run any distance was very quick off the mark.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
Got that right mate.Gordo' wrote:something that some better judges of talent have flowering known for ages, right mate?saynta wrote:Funny that.BringBackMadDog wrote:Interesting reading that Seb clocked the 3rd fastest time this year on the field at 35.0kmh only behind impey and Toby Greene.
Funny how he was thought to be a plodder by some, but he actually has some wheels.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
MickThomas wrote:I reckon it's the speed of his disposals- he's quick to just hhandball or kick in mad panic, not caring where it goes.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
72.8% disposal efficiency with an average of 30 disposals per game. Dustin Martin:64.3% Disposal efficiency 30.3 average disposals. Dangerfield: 66.1% disposal efficiency 30.2 average disposalsMickThomas wrote:I reckon it's the speed of his disposals- he's quick to just hhandball or kick in mad panic, not caring where it goes.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
I tipped Seb for the BM this year, but I thought we would win 16 games. He is a bit behind Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield mainly because he is 2 or 3 years younger and hasn't built as much strength. Dangerfield is a better mark than both but is 2 cm taller than both. Sometimes Seb appeared slow to make a decision because his teammates had their back to him or were standing still. Other times, he made mistakes, especially towards the end of the year when he seemed to get a bit tired. He was slow to start in his career because he was unfit. That's good news for those in the team who are unfit - you can improve that, and your performance, if you work hard enough and are disciplined enough.
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
You might want to factor in that Both Danger and Martin have opponents concentrating/tagging them at all times and are under huge defensive pressure.BringBackMadDog wrote: 72.8% disposal efficiency with an average of 30 disposals per game. Dustin Martin:64.3% Disposal efficiency 30.3 average disposals. Dangerfield: 66.1% disposal efficiency 30.2 average disposals
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it really doesn't suit his hero-worship to acknowledge the truth.saintsRrising wrote:You might want to factor in that Both Danger and Martin have opponents concentrating/tagging them at all times and are under huge defensive pressure.BringBackMadDog wrote: 72.8% disposal efficiency with an average of 30 disposals per game. Dustin Martin:64.3% Disposal efficiency 30.3 average disposals. Dangerfield: 66.1% disposal efficiency 30.2 average disposals
He is a member of the Blue Sky Brigade.
Dangerfield and Martin can be relied on to do several inspirational team-lifting things, like kick several amazing goals, do the burst through a pack and drill the ball to a forward.
Seb gives us the heart in the mouth, for different reasons...
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
Send disposal in the first 16 or so rounds was phenomenal considering how much of the pill he gets, and only dripped off on the last couple of rounds or so, there's a reason why he polled well in the coaches awardMickThomas wrote:it really doesn't suit his hero-worship to acknowledge the truth.saintsRrising wrote:You might want to factor in that Both Danger and Martin have opponents concentrating/tagging them at all times and are under huge defensive pressure.BringBackMadDog wrote: 72.8% disposal efficiency with an average of 30 disposals per game. Dustin Martin:64.3% Disposal efficiency 30.3 average disposals. Dangerfield: 66.1% disposal efficiency 30.2 average disposals
He is a member of the Blue Sky Brigade.
Dangerfield and Martin can be relied on to do several inspirational team-lifting things, like kick several amazing goals, do the burst through a pack and drill the ball to a forward.
Seb gives us the heart in the mouth, for different reasons...
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Re: Seb Ross - 3rd fastest speed clocked this year
You believe in the flat-earth theory as well, I suppose.Proph3t of egan wrote:Send disposal in the first 16 or so rounds was phenomenal considering how much of the pill he gets, and only dripped off on the last couple of rounds or so, there's a reason why he polled well in the coaches awardMickThomas wrote:it really doesn't suit his hero-worship to acknowledge the truth.saintsRrising wrote:You might want to factor in that Both Danger and Martin have opponents concentrating/tagging them at all times and are under huge defensive pressure.BringBackMadDog wrote: 72.8% disposal efficiency with an average of 30 disposals per game. Dustin Martin:64.3% Disposal efficiency 30.3 average disposals. Dangerfield: 66.1% disposal efficiency 30.2 average disposals
He is a member of the Blue Sky Brigade.
Dangerfield and Martin can be relied on to do several inspirational team-lifting things, like kick several amazing goals, do the burst through a pack and drill the ball to a forward.
Seb gives us the heart in the mouth, for different reasons...
Seb is fantastic at getting the ball.
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