The club, not the players

[Gershwin]

It's all got to do with money, facilities and culture. St Kilda has never had any of that. At least they bit the bullet and are now farking of from Outer Frankston or Seaford wherever that is. Thanks Archie Fraser for setting the club back about 5 years. We might have a chance if the Moorabin redevelopment is up to scratch

Whats wrong with Seaford? Excellent facilities. Just saw footage of Melbourne's Jetta limping from Goschs Paddock (just a park with people walking past) and then had to limp further to the medical room at AAMI Park. Nothing impressive there.

[Dave McNamara]

And "there's no "i" in "team"?

But there is a 'me'.


Wells, I have no knowledge nor opinion on this one, so honest question, what have you (and others) got against Hamill's coaching abilities?

For mine, I'd be starting any cull with that 'talent spotter' we got from Carlscum.



(BTW, no hosting quoting, nor hosting probs' for you - love that new avatar. )

[thejiggingsaint]

It's all got to do with money, facilities and culture. St Kilda has never had any of that. At least they bit the bullet and are now farking of from Outer Frankston or Seaford wherever that is. Thanks Archie Fraser for setting the club back about 5 years. We might have a chance if the Moorabin redevelopment is up to scratch

Whats wrong with Seaford? Excellent facilities. Just saw footage of Melbourne's Jetta limping from Goschs Paddock (just a park with people walking past) and then had to limp further to the medical room at AAMI Park. Nothing impressive there.

What's wrong with Seaford? It's in SEAFORD

[Sainter_Dad]

It's all got to do with money, facilities and culture. St Kilda has never had any of that. At least they bit the bullet and are now farking of from Outer Frankston or Seaford wherever that is. Thanks Archie Fraser for setting the club back about 5 years. We might have a chance if the Moorabin redevelopment is up to scratch

Whats wrong with Seaford? Excellent facilities. Just saw footage of Melbourne's Jetta limping from Goschs Paddock (just a park with people walking past) and then had to limp further to the medical room at AAMI Park. Nothing impressive there.

What's wrong with Seaford? It's in SEAFORD

Hey!!!! - So am I!!!!

[thejiggingsaint]

It's all got to do with money, facilities and culture. St Kilda has never had any of that. At least they bit the bullet and are now farking of from Outer Frankston or Seaford wherever that is. Thanks Archie Fraser for setting the club back about 5 years. We might have a chance if the Moorabin redevelopment is up to scratch

Whats wrong with Seaford? Excellent facilities. Just saw footage of Melbourne's Jetta limping from Goschs Paddock (just a park with people walking past) and then had to limp further to the medical room at AAMI Park. Nothing impressive there.

What's wrong with Seaford? It's in SEAFORD

Hey!!!! - So am I!!!!

I rest my case! cos if it ain't Murrumbeena!............... it's somewhere else!

[ausfatcat]

What's wrong with Seaford? It's in SEAFORD

Whats wong with Tullamarine, whats wrong with casey, whats wrong with waverly/morrabin. Location means s***

[WellardSaint]

And "there's no "i" in "team"?

But there is a 'me'.


Wells, I have no knowledge nor opinion on this one, so honest question, what have you (and others) got against Hamill's coaching abilities?

For mine, I'd be starting any cull with that 'talent spotter' we got from Carlscum.



(BTW, no hosting quoting, nor hosting probs' for you - love that new avatar. )

I think Hamill is the cause of all the problems in the F50.

They just bomb it in long without trying to look for a leading player
So many entries without any effect.
No accuracy at set shots.

The lads don't play smart getting inside F50
and if we were more efficient with our ball use up forward, we'd have won a few more games
and been more competitive in a lot of others.

Why can't Baroose mark, why was he dropped to the Zebs, why is Skunk nowhere near as good as last year
Why is Lonie so poor (4 kicks+4 handballs and 4 clangers last week)
Weller- defensive forward- has gone backwards and had to get dropped

Hamill can't fix things, if he could, he would have.
Forget the Tigers game, those flogs got ahead of themselves as only they can do,
but they got their heads right after half-time

[thejiggingsaint]

What's wrong with Seaford? It's in SEAFORD

Whats wong with Tullamarine, whats wrong with casey, whats wrong with waverly/morrabin. Location means s***

Oooooooh I dont know about that colleague, Just ask a real estate agent! He/she'll tell ya!

[White Winmar]

And "there's no "i" in "team"?

But there is a 'me'.


Wells, I have no knowledge nor opinion on this one, so honest question, what have you (and others) got against Hamill's coaching abilities?

For mine, I'd be starting any cull with that 'talent spotter' we got from Carlscum.



(BTW, no hosting quoting, nor hosting probs' for you - love that new avatar. )

I think Hamill is the cause of all the problems in the F50.

They just bomb it in long without trying to look for a leading player
So many entries without any effect.
No accuracy at set shots.

The lads don't play smart getting inside F50
and if we were more efficient with our ball use up forward, we'd have won a few more games
and been more competitive in a lot of others.

Why can't Baroose mark, why was he dropped to the Zebs, why is Skunk nowhere near as good as last year
Why is Lonie so poor (4 kicks+4 handballs and 4 clangers last week)
Weller- defensive forward- has gone backwards and had to get dropped

Hamill can't fix things, if he could, he would have.
Forget the Tigers game, those flogs got ahead of themselves as only they can do,
but they got their heads right after half-time

I think this is definitely part of the answer as to why we're struggling. We looked deadly in attack for most of the second half of the year in 2016. We have definitely regressed. It all looks like a bit of a mess, even in games where we've won. None of our forwards are better this year than last. The only one who has an excuse is Roo, who even though is declining with age, is our most dangerous forward. That is an indictment on not just the forwards' coach, but the whole development system.

If JM's "flat hands" for the forwards theory is true, then whoever the genius who came up with it should be sacked. It doesn't work and it has definitely caused Bruce and Paddy to regress as players. Hamill should be held responsible. While we're at it, our development coaches should also be moved along. They have failed to achieve any significant improvement in our younger players. That's what they're mainly there to do. I think it's time to move on Gilbee, McPhee and Searle.

[The_President]

Would love to see our boys show a bit of aggression and arrogance.

Unsociable footy.
If you hit one of our boys, you have to deal with the rest of them.

I love Toby Greene in that regard.