Longer!!!!!
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3950
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2015 3:12pm
- Has thanked: 372 times
- Been thanked: 214 times
Longer!!!!!
Anyone have any updates on how Billy is tracking for a return this week?????
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23162
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
- Has thanked: 9109 times
- Been thanked: 3951 times
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3950
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2015 3:12pm
- Has thanked: 372 times
- Been thanked: 214 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
Not sure what your talking about, I have been backing Billy all season, and copped much criticism for it!!!!!saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11354
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
- Location: South of Heaven
- Has thanked: 1349 times
- Been thanked: 462 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
On the contrary, to Stonecold's credit, he has been backing Billy for a while.saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I'm definitely keen for Billy's return after Hickey's uninspiring comeback to AFL level last week.
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3950
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2015 3:12pm
- Has thanked: 372 times
- Been thanked: 214 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
Sainternist wrote:On the contrary, to Stonecold's credit, he has been backing Billy for a while.saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I'm definitely keen for Billy's return after Hickey's uninspiring comeback to AFL level last week.
Thanks for the honesty and support, much appreciated!!!!!
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23162
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
- Has thanked: 9109 times
- Been thanked: 3951 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
stonecold wrote:Not sure what your talking about, I have been backing Billy all season, and copped much criticism for it!!!!!saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I was talking about me, not you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11354
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
- Location: South of Heaven
- Has thanked: 1349 times
- Been thanked: 462 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
Ah, gotcha. No worries, Chief.saynta wrote:stonecold wrote:Not sure what your talking about, I have been backing Billy all season, and copped much criticism for it!!!!!saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I was talking about me, not you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3950
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2015 3:12pm
- Has thanked: 372 times
- Been thanked: 214 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
No all good, makes sense now, no probs!!!!!saynta wrote:stonecold wrote:Not sure what your talking about, I have been backing Billy all season, and copped much criticism for it!!!!!saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I was talking about me, not you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13329
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 680 times
- Been thanked: 1966 times
- SydneySainter
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2428
- Joined: Sat 26 May 2007 6:59pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 160 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
If last week proved anything, it's that Longer should be our first choice by a country mile.
What has happened to Hickey. How can he go from career best form last season to some of worst we've seen him play in a Saints jumper this season? Bellchambers is not an elite ruck IMO but Hickey made him look like the new Dean Cox last Friday.
Surely it's between the ears?
What has happened to Hickey. How can he go from career best form last season to some of worst we've seen him play in a Saints jumper this season? Bellchambers is not an elite ruck IMO but Hickey made him look like the new Dean Cox last Friday.
Surely it's between the ears?
Bad management is bad management
- BackFromUSA
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4642
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:38am
- Has thanked: 51 times
- Been thanked: 508 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
I believe it is a knee injury restricting his leap. He only has a leap as his weapon in centre bounces. Then a loss of confidence from being noncompetitive as a result. Would love to see him rest up and get 100% fit and come again. Still believe he has value. Disappointed with Pierce as he has the tools but he seems to be lost. We should look at Holmes until Longer (and Hickey) are fully fit.
AwayInUSA no longer ... have based myself back in Melbourne for a decade of Saintsational Success (with regular trips back to the USA)
"Saintsational Player Sponsor 2007 - 2018"
"Saintsational Player Sponsor 2007 - 2018"
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 516
- Joined: Sun 08 May 2016 8:02pm
Re: Longer!!!!!
I agree about Holmes doing in this week, has had over 110 hitouts over the last 2 weeks in the VFL I think, and in my opinion is an even better tap ruck then Billy (Billy does more blocking and bullock into in the stoppages which puts him ahead of Holmes as first ruck though. Hickey still looks underdone for me, as his ruck was as usual sub par by AFL standards, but his work around the ground is far below what we've been expecting of him.BackFromUSA wrote:I believe it is a knee injury restricting his leap. He only has a leap as his weapon in centre bounces. Then a loss of confidence from being noncompetitive as a result. Would love to see him rest up and get 100% fit and come again. Still believe he has value. Disappointed with Pierce as he has the tools but he seems to be lost. We should look at Holmes until Longer (and Hickey) are fully fit.
Let Holmes play until either of them is 100% fit again, I think both of them are part of our future
Fortius quo Fidelius means Strength through Loyalty. . . I think
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 84
- Joined: Mon 22 May 2017 11:02pm
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6610
- Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
- Location: Here
- Has thanked: 1338 times
- Been thanked: 467 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
I can't see us playing Holmes as surely their getting rid of him at the end of the year.Proph3t of egan wrote:I agree about Holmes doing in this week, has had over 110 hitouts over the last 2 weeks in the VFL I think, and in my opinion is an even better tap ruck then Billy (Billy does more blocking and bullock into in the stoppages which puts him ahead of Holmes as first ruck though. Hickey still looks underdone for me, as his ruck was as usual sub par by AFL standards, but his work around the ground is far below what we've been expecting of him.BackFromUSA wrote:I believe it is a knee injury restricting his leap. He only has a leap as his weapon in centre bounces. Then a loss of confidence from being noncompetitive as a result. Would love to see him rest up and get 100% fit and come again. Still believe he has value. Disappointed with Pierce as he has the tools but he seems to be lost. We should look at Holmes until Longer (and Hickey) are fully fit.
Let Holmes play until either of them is 100% fit again, I think both of them are part of our future
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
- saintsRrising
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 30098
- Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 711 times
- Been thanked: 1235 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
So you think it makes sense to not pick the best team for this weekend based on who may or may not be playing next year?Jacks Back wrote: I can't see us playing Holmes as surely their getting rid of him at the end of the year.
Another view might be too that it gives Holmes one last chance to show that he is at least worthy as being retained as a back up ruck.
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3950
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2015 3:12pm
- Has thanked: 372 times
- Been thanked: 214 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
Billy's on the bus(well plane anyway), let's hope he can prove he's fitness and play against the Swans. Provide first use and be at he's physical best and protect our mids as well as dropping back into Buddy's path!!!!!
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4243
- Joined: Thu 25 Mar 2004 2:47pm
- Location: incarnate
- Has thanked: 286 times
- Been thanked: 694 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
Sounds like a fun daystonecold wrote:Billy's on the bus(well plane anyway), let's hope he can prove he's fitness and play against the Swans. Provide first use and be at he's physical best and protect our mids as well as dropping back into Buddy's path!!!!!
Nee!
- Bernard Shakey
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11240
- Joined: Sun 18 Mar 2007 11:22pm
- Location: Down By The River 1989, 2003, 2009 & 2013
- Has thanked: 126 times
- Been thanked: 137 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
Lower back is what I heard.BackFromUSA wrote:I believe it is a knee injury restricting his leap. He only has a leap as his weapon in centre bounces. Then a loss of confidence from being noncompetitive as a result. Would love to see him rest up and get 100% fit and come again. Still believe he has value. Disappointed with Pierce as he has the tools but he seems to be lost. We should look at Holmes until Longer (and Hickey) are fully fit.
Holmes is finished!
Old enough to repaint, but young enough to sell
- White Winmar
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5014
- Joined: Tue 02 Jun 2009 10:02pm
Re: Longer!!!!!
Remember Barry Brooks? The boy from King Island. We gave away picks 6 and 31 to get him from Port Adelaide. He was meant to be the last piece in GT's premiership puzzle. A ruckman with a huge leap, who could also go forward and take a big grab. A good kick, too. He showed early promise until an ACL injury stopped him in his tracks. Bevo said Barry was never the same again. He lost his ability to jump, had no confidence in his repaired knee and slowly disappeared from the scene. Another case of, "what if?"
Maybe Hickey's knee injury earlier in the year is having a similar effect on his confidence. He's clearly not right, based on what we saw last week. I hope he recovers from whatever is ailing him. We need him firing and in form.
Maybe Hickey's knee injury earlier in the year is having a similar effect on his confidence. He's clearly not right, based on what we saw last week. I hope he recovers from whatever is ailing him. We need him firing and in form.
I started with nothing and I've got most of it left!
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1701
- Joined: Fri 18 May 2007 11:13am
- Been thanked: 7 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
Stone old you are so full of it ... in 2016 you wanted Longer traded , now you pretend to be some sort of. Guru ,,, I have pointed out Longers strengths since 2014 , both he and Hickey bring different things to the table, Hickeys got serious problems now we have the third man up rule, I believe I was also the first to pint this out ( though I stand to be corrected)stonecold wrote:Sainternist wrote:On the contrary, to Stonecold's credit, he has been backing Billy for a while.saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I'm definitely keen for Billy's return after Hickey's uninspiring comeback to AFL level last week.
Thanks for the honesty and support, much appreciated!!!!!
I pointed out the differences between the two as early as 2014.
In fact last last year you wanted Longer traded !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is a post of yours for context
Re: not there in 2017?
... nothing more. I think they'll keep Lee, but Delaney, Curren and Shenton are as good as gone. Pick 9/10 is on the table, I understand, along with Longer and the above mentioned. Steele, Marchbank, Hoskin Elliott and Mitchell are targets. Any two of those would make me very happy. Do it Saints. ...
by stonecold
Mon 22 Aug 2016 1:39pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum (open to all ages)
Topic: not there in 2017?
Replies: 33
Views: 1318
Jump to post
Your are so full of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the president said " I did not have sex with that woman"
And our former president said " Football is like golf"
Go Sainters !!!!!
And our former president said " Football is like golf"
Go Sainters !!!!!
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 516
- Joined: Sun 08 May 2016 8:02pm
Re: Longer!!!!!
I myself had a premonition as early as 2005 that Longer would end up the clear number 1 ruck this year, I knew that Hickey would never make it once I saw his ruckwork in my minds eye
Fortius quo Fidelius means Strength through Loyalty. . . I think
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3950
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2015 3:12pm
- Has thanked: 372 times
- Been thanked: 214 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
You positive that's my post?????
Like really sure, are you?????
And if so, where does it say I wanted him gone, show me!!!!!
Have another after work Beveridge champ!!!!!
Like really sure, are you?????
And if so, where does it say I wanted him gone, show me!!!!!
Have another after work Beveridge champ!!!!!
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 17048
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3664 times
- Been thanked: 2927 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
The fact forumites here go on about how they were the one fan that believed in player x all along is highly irritating.
a) 9/10 it's not true
b) it's a fan forum, ppl like to discuss stuff as they see it at the time. Genius allows for a POV to change as new data arrives.
Not directing this at either you guys above but in general I wish the forum would move away from this type of thing
"I and only I always believed in Seb Ross and took the abuse
Screw everyone who wrote off Sam Gilbert"
And on and on it goes... multiple threads, brought up repeatedly, 2 ppl brought something like that up this weak to publicly pat themselves on the back.
It's such a stupid conversation
a) 9/10 it's not true
b) it's a fan forum, ppl like to discuss stuff as they see it at the time. Genius allows for a POV to change as new data arrives.
Not directing this at either you guys above but in general I wish the forum would move away from this type of thing
"I and only I always believed in Seb Ross and took the abuse
Screw everyone who wrote off Sam Gilbert"
And on and on it goes... multiple threads, brought up repeatedly, 2 ppl brought something like that up this weak to publicly pat themselves on the back.
It's such a stupid conversation
- samuraisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5938
- Joined: Sun 25 Sep 2011 3:23pm
- Location: Outside Lucky Burgers
- Has thanked: 861 times
- Been thanked: 801 times
Re: Longer!!!!!
Beaten by Naismith tonight, and Hickey was amongst the best at Kardinia Park in our win against Geelong.
The gameplan is the problem not individual players.
The gameplan is the problem not individual players.
Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.