Archie Fraser, ex St Kilda CEO

[IanRush]

Can anyone tell me their thoughts on Archie's time with the Saints? Was he a good money man, or good 'corporate' man? He went to FFA after the Saints, then disappeared off the face of the earth.

Did he come to Australia from Scotland, specifically for the Saints job?

[satchmo]

Hired as a toe-cutter to exit GT.
Sold us Frankston and delivered us Seaford.

Not popular on any side of the fence.

[freely]

There was another post asking about him here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=93354&p=1684472#p1684472

He's at Optiscan.

[Pwoit]

Shyte!!

[Enrico_Misso]

His arrogant negotiating style was the reason we left Moorabbin.
(OK, the greenie scum on Kingston Clowncil didn't help).

[thejiggingsaint]

"greenie scum" (?) nice classy turn of phrase there Enrico

[saintspremiers]

"greenie scum" (?) nice classy turn of phrase there Enrico

Tree huggers better?

Unwashed vegan hippies perhaps??

Take your pick jiggler

[Bernard Shakey]

Apparently was employed because of his ability to work with all staff, especially women.

[thejiggingsaint]

[quote="Bernard Shakey"]Apparently was employed because of his ability to work with all staff, especially women.[/quote]
That worked out well for all concerned

[thejiggingsaint]

[quote="saintspremiers"][quote="thejiggingsaint"]"greenie scum" (?) nice classy turn of phrase there Enrico [/quote]

Tree huggers better?

Unwashed vegan hippies perhaps??

Take your pick jiggler[/quote]

Perhaps " people with a differing opinion/view" ?

[prwilkinson]

A very poor sporting administrator whose direction and decisions whist at the helm we're only just recovering from.

[skeptic]

I doubt you'll find anyone here that has much nice things to say about him...
His record at the club based on the decisions that were made at the time, speaks for itself

[saintspremiers]

"greenie scum" (?) nice classy turn of phrase there Enrico

Tree huggers better?

Unwashed vegan hippies perhaps??

Take your pick jiggler

Perhaps " people with a differing opinion/view" ?

I'd love to teach you how to use the quote function!!

[thejiggingsaint]

[quote="saintspremiers"][quote="thejiggingsaint"][quote="saintspremiers"][quote="thejiggingsaint"]"greenie scum" (?) nice classy turn of phrase there Enrico [/quote]

Tree huggers better?

Unwashed vegan hippies perhaps??

Take your pick jiggler[/quote]

Perhaps " people with a differing opinion/view" ?[/quote]

I'd love to teach you how to use the quote function!![/quote]
What? Like this? Spot-on from where I'm looking!

[Con Gorozidis]

Cost us a flag.
Us having to spend 20 hours a week in a car travelling to Seaford while the Pies had to walk five minutes to Lexus cost us dearly in 2010 imo.

I think he came from some s*** Scottish soccer team?
Not sure how he ended up in Melbourne.
Was he on the run?
Did he come via Perth? Lots of Scots over there.

[jaxons]

The worse CEO in sporting history.
Just nudging out Michael Nettlefold.

[SaintPav]

Cost us a flag.
Us having to spend 20 hours a week in a car travelling to Seaford while the Pies had to walk five minutes to Lexus cost us dearly in 2010 imo.

I think he came from some s*** Scottish soccer team?
Not sure how he ended up in Melbourne.
Was he on the run?
Did he come via Perth? Lots of Scots over there.

We hadn't moved to Seaford in 2010; we were still based at Moorabbin.

[Dave McNamara]

Archie Bloody Fraser!!!!!!

The only time the Saints have ever managed to make me cry (yes, literally), was when he allowed the bulldozers into Linton Street.

Archie Bloody Fraser!!!!!!

[satchmo]

Cost us a flag.
Us having to spend 20 hours a week in a car travelling to Seaford while the Pies had to walk five minutes to Lexus cost us dearly in 2010 imo.

I think he came from some s*** Scottish soccer team?
Not sure how he ended up in Melbourne.
Was he on the run?
Did he come via Perth? Lots of Scots over there.

We hadn't moved to Seaford in 2010; we were still based at Moorabbin.

...and that is the problem with hiring a Scottish toe-cutter Time Lord.

[St Lenny]

Why open this can of worms. The truth is no one wants to accept the truth, it easier to blame someone for when things go pear shaped and in the case it was AF. Everyone should know that there was no way the local council were ever going to give us the license we wanted at the time for pokies. They did not want us there and made life very difficult for us to the point we had to look at relocating. We looked at what was available at that time, not a lot was ideal and it was decided to go to Frankson. A deal was struck but then, well it burnt' down. AF's fault no doubt. Only option left (in our budget and what we could get approved) was Seaford. Lots of innuendo in the media didn't help and only made supporters want to blame AF.

The reason he came to Australia was because he played professional Football for Greenock Morton before moving to Australia in 1980 to play in Brisbane.

He has quite an impressive CV if you take the time to google him.

[WellardSaint]

there's 2 vacancies at AFL House...
Will Archie put his hand up?
Good chance for the Scotsman to prove that he has lost his misogyny
and is now able to work with women
or maybe not

[Con Gorozidis]

Why open this can of worms. The truth is no one wants to accept the truth, it easier to blame someone for when things go pear shaped and in the case it was AF. Everyone should know that there was no way the local council were ever going to give us the license we wanted at the time for pokies. They did not want us there and made life very difficult for us to the point we had to look at relocating. We looked at what was available at that time, not a lot was ideal and it was decided to go to Frankson. A deal was struck but then, well it burnt' down. AF's fault no doubt. Only option left (in our budget and what we could get approved) was Seaford. Lots of innuendo in the media didn't help and only made supporters want to blame AF.

The reason he came to Australia was because he played professional Football for Greenock Morton before moving to Australia in 1980 to play in Brisbane.

He has quite an impressive CV if you take the time to google him.

Councillors come and go. There was no need to be spooked by one short term Councillor. What nonsense.

[lefty]

Why open this can of worms. The truth is no one wants to accept the truth, it easier to blame someone for when things go pear shaped and in the case it was AF. Everyone should know that there was no way the local council were ever going to give us the license we wanted at the time for pokies. They did not want us there and made life very difficult for us to the point we had to look at relocating. We looked at what was available at that time, not a lot was ideal and it was decided to go to Frankson. A deal was struck but then, well it burnt' down. AF's fault no doubt. Only option left (in our budget and what we could get approved) was Seaford. Lots of innuendo in the media didn't help and only made supporters want to blame AF.

The reason he came to Australia was because he played professional Football for Greenock Morton before moving to Australia in 1980 to play in Brisbane.

He has quite an impressive CV if you take the time to google him.

Councillors come and go. There was no need to be spooked by one short term Councillor. What nonsense.

Also the bowls club wasn't on our side either.

Personally I'd rather us stay at Seaford, but it should of been planned more like Hawthorns plans, with multiple ovals, facilities, parking etc.

I think Seaford is a good position (way way wayyy easier to get to than Moorabbin and growth is out east) but the problem is that its situated around houses with limited space. It needed to be more on its own, like your entering a private golf course, but for our club, not some sort of local footy park oval setup surrounded by housing.

If Hawthorns plans go through, we are well and truly behind the 8 ball with no space to grow.

[White Winmar]

The worse CEO in sporting history.
Just nudging out Michael Nettlefold.

I concur.

[Vazelos]

I know for a fact Archie Fraser got a Bruce Mathieson designed Pokies venue to the Kingston council and they threw it out.
Too commercial and not a fan of Mathieson Pokies venues.
They were classic left wing community based council people who had no time for such venues.
Fraser then decided to go to Seaford and that's the crux of it.