"Basher" Houli straight to tribunal

[jimmy_slats]

he's gone! found guilty of intentional there trying for 4 weeks this could be massive if he misses our game

[oh when the]

Houli banned for two weeks

[saintspremiers]

Houli banned for two weeks

WTF??

Looking after minority groups.

What a wank.

The POS committed a dog act off the ball. Minimum 3 weeks should be 4.

[stonecold]

Houli banned for two weeks

He's Stiff!!!!!

Hopefully that Scumbag Lamb never gets another game!!!!!

[saintspremiers]

Houli banned for two weeks

He's Stiff!!!!!

Hopefully that Scumbag Lamb never gets another game!!!!!

Houli hit Lamb. What are you on about?

The Ox is right - there should be an order off rule for dog acts off the ball.

[stonecold]

Houli banned for two weeks

He's Stiff!!!!!

Hopefully that Scumbag Lamb never gets another game!!!!!

Houli hit Lamb. What are you on about?

The Ox is right - there should be an order off rule for dog acts off the ball.

Im aware of what happened, Lamb is Scumbag and whilst not advocating what Basher did, Lamb got run over by the Karma Bus!!!!!

[kosifantutti]

So, he doesn't play against us. That's all that matters.

[saynta]

Dog act. Two weeks. Not enough

Pretty disgraceful decision actually.

[lewdogs]

Houli banned for two weeks

WTF??

Looking after minority groups.

What a wank.

The POS committed a dog act off the ball. Minimum 3 weeks should be 4.

Looking after minority groups... haha honestly some people.

It was a bad act but he clearly didn't mean for it to be as bad as it turned out in my opinion. Wasn't looking at the player and was running towards the ball. He misses the Saints game, will be a big loss for them.

[stonecold]

Dog act. Two weeks. Not enough

Pretty disgraceful decision actually.

Not a dog act, get a grip!!!!!

[Viking3]

Houli banned for two weeks

WTF??

Looking after minority groups.

What a wank.

The POS committed a dog act off the ball. Minimum 3 weeks should be 4.

Looking after minority groups... haha honestly some people.

It was a bad act but he clearly didn't mean for it to be as bad as it turned out in my opinion. Wasn't looking at the player and was running towards the ball. He misses the Saints game, will be a big loss for them.[/quote]

Well that knob Aly brought up the race card.......honestly some people!
Plenty of actions turn out worse than intended and plenty are lucky the result wasn't as bad. Do the crime, pay the time. 2 weeks for recklessly k'o ing a bloke is complete and utter bulltish!!

[markmark]

Steven Baker did less and got a lot more

[Jacks Back]

So, if he had of killed him - what he gets 3 weeks from the afl? Absolute rubbish tribunal sentence.

[Enrico_Misso]

Ridiculous that character evidence from people that barely know him influenced the tribunal.

The tribunal is meant to make impartial judgements based on what actually happened not on who they know or their background.

[suss]

Steven Baker did less and got a lot more

Can't compare Bakes to Houli, they are chalk and cheese. Houli has never even been reported before, Bakes on the other hand had a long list of priors ...

Two or three sounded right. I don't mind that he got two. Did something silly that was out of character.

[saintspremiers]

Houli banned for two weeks

WTF??

Looking after minority groups.

What a wank.

The POS committed a dog act off the ball. Minimum 3 weeks should be 4.

Looking after minority groups... haha honestly some people.

It was a bad act but he clearly didn't mean for it to be as bad as it turned out in my opinion. Wasn't looking at the player and was running towards the ball. He misses the Saints game, will be a big loss for them.

It IS looking after Muslims.

Houli has met the PM. The PM loves Houli as he is the type of role model Muslim leader type that helps keep the peace in the current environment. Waleed Ally is a big Muslim media activist and if someone is inside with both of those then what they say/want has massive influence.

The tribunal advocate against Houli stated he wanted a 4 week ban after the guilty verdict. PC bulltish (above) forced the AFL's hand to reduce it to two weeks (implied not actual force I mean)

[meher baba]

The guy had a good record and it didn't look as if he was meaning to hurt his opponent.

WTF with the character references? Turnbull could perhaps be forgiven for not understanding that it isn't normal to provide references for the AFL tribunal. But Aly has no excuse: moreover, he's a committed Richmond supporter, so isn't there a conflict of interest?

And why is the Tribunal equating religion and good character? Some of the greatest mass murderers in history were religious.

All this has done is given a massive free kick to the Islamophobes. Looks like, smells like special treatment.

Morons.

[The Peanut]

Steven Baker did less and got a lot more

Can't compare Bakes to Houli, they are chalk and cheese. Houli has never even been reported before, Bakes on the other hand had a long list of priors ...

Two or three sounded right. I don't mind that he got two. Did something silly that was out of character.

Bakesy had a 'role' and the rules and the protocols on the field and with the match committee were different then. but nevertheless, Bakesy and the club have had some disgraceful decisions made against them at this kangaroo court over the years, no matter how you look at it. Whether the Houli decision was fair or not - I'm just feeling a little warmer and fuzzier knowing he'll be sitting in the stands next week - but if he appeals and gets one week, I'll implode then.

[perfectionist]

There will no doubt be "outrage" from the usual suspects about the use of references at the Tribunal, including from race hate warriors like Andrew Bolt and Neil MItchell. In the midst of the fog will be forgotten one simple truth - they have always been used at the Tribunal - always. The difference in this case is that the Tribunal chairman chose to make a statement regarding their influence on the Tribunal's decision. Once again, whilst this is not unknown in my experience, it is unusual and I think unwise.

The big change in the game in the last 50 years has been the amount of money paid to the players. It has gone from a lucrative "amateur" game to fully professional where, except for male cricketers, the participants - collectively - are the highest paid salaried group in the country - soon to have an average of $375,000. One corollary of this is the effect that sanctions have on the earning of this salary. It is unclear to me what the financial sanction is for players found guilty of offences and suspended. Is it just missing the game or do they forfeit their match payment. or a proportion of their salary, for the transgression? I assume that fines come out of the player's after tax payments. If there is a financial sanction, then any Tribunal which limits that payment will, in law, be required to consider all submissions. The AFL rejigged the Tribunal procedures a number of years in order to "head off" players seeking remedy elsewhere i.e. the courts. However, all they really did was make such moves "less likely". No-one can remove a player's ultimate right of access to the courts.

In this case, my immediate reaction to the video was "3 or 4 weeks". A player's AFL record, as opposed to his character, should be more of an influence, and the Tribunal would have been wiser to point to this rather than to the character references. His record is clean and, in the games I've seen him play, he is a hard but not dirty player. That would have meant the lower of the penalties. But no doubt there will be three days worth of media frenzy until the next round looms.

[meher baba]

This will probably not be a popular thing to post on here, but I can't see the Houlii-Baker comparison.

Houli is mostly a clean player, Baker was a bit of a throwback to an old style of footy that I personally don't mind to see gone from the game.

Yes, Baker got picked on unfairly at times for simply being a good tagger. But he also like to push the envelope big time.

[saynta]

The guy had a good record and it didn't look as if he was meaning to hurt his opponent.

WTF with the character references? Turnbull could perhaps be forgiven for not understanding that it isn't normal to provide references for the AFL tribunal. But Aly has no excuse: moreover, he's a committed Richmond supporter, so isn't there a conflict of interest?

And why is the Tribunal equating religion and good character? Some of the greatest mass murderers in history were religious.

All this has done is given a massive free kick to the Islamophobes. Looks like, smells like special treatment.

Morons.

Of course it was special treatment.

What next, the catholics get a letter from the pope?

[saynta]

Dog act. Two weeks. Not enough

Pretty disgraceful decision actually.

Not a dog act, get a grip!!!!!

O f course it was a dog act. Do that in a pub or on the street you get arrested. No different to a coward punch ffs.

[Enrico_Misso]

What is wrong with it is bringing in outside "celebrities" to testify and reduce his sentence.
This is wrong.

Do we want the tribunal to be about who we know and who has the best contacts?
Or do we want it to be about fairness?

I will be expressing my distaste for this abuse of process by booing Basher next week and I hope others do the same.

[meher baba]

What is wrong with it is bringing in outside "celebrities" to testify and reduce his sentence.
This is wrong.

Do we want the tribunal to be about who we know and who has the best contacts?
Or do we want it to be about fairness?

I will be expressing my distaste for this abuse of process by booing Basher next week and I hope others do the same.

Yes, it's ridiculous and shouldn't be permitted. What a player is like off the field is irrelevant to what they do on the field.

I assume Basher will be booed when he returns (not next week) and the media will report that we have a problem with Islamophobia.

Sigh

[kosifantutti]

What is wrong with it is bringing in outside "celebrities" to testify and reduce his sentence.
This is wrong.

Do we want the tribunal to be about who we know and who has the best contacts?
Or do we want it to be about fairness?

I will be expressing my distaste for this abuse of process by booing Basher next week and I hope others do the same.

Where will you see him next week?