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Would anyone care

Post: # 1680850Post The_President »

If one of our players were gay?

Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?


Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.


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Post: # 1680851Post Milne »

It's 2017 so not at all. Players don't come out because some supporters don't know what year it is, plus players sex lives are none of our business anyway.


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Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.


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Post: # 1680854Post Con Gorozidis »

What if someone came out as openly asexual?

They just said, "look everyone. I haven't had any action in five years and I simply don't care."

Would anyone care about that?

Just not sure why sexual preference or activity is a big part of a person's make-up. For many people it is nothing anyway.
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Post: # 1680855Post The_President »

Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
We do now and so does the league in general.

Why don't you think the players feel comfortable with coming out?


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Post: # 1680858Post WellardSaint »

I don't care.
Not a problem.
The AFL is a microcosm of society, and reflects this society,
so it's not just likely, but it's probable that a percentage of AFL players are gay.

I worked in the Dept of Defence several years ago, for a long time,
and when Defence took an initiative to recognize same-sex relationships,
there were 2 officers- both majors- who applied for co-habitation allowances etc
within about a week of the announcement.
I say the gay footy players will keep under the radar for the forseeable future
because although there's strong support in the public domain, these guys (indeed maybe AFLW ladies)
still may not be sure about coming out.


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Post: # 1680860Post The_President »

WellardSaint wrote:I don't care.
Not a problem.
The AFL is a microcosm of society, and reflects this society,
so it's not just likely, but it's probable that a percentage of AFL players are gay.

I worked in the Dept of Defence several years ago, for a long time,
and when Defence took an initiative to recognize same-sex relationships,
there were 2 officers- both majors- who applied for co-habitation allowances etc
within about a week of the announcement.
I say the gay footy players will keep under the radar for the forseeable future
because although there's strong support in the public domain, these guys (indeed maybe AFLW ladies)
still may not be sure about coming out.
95% of the AFLW are openly gay


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Post: # 1680864Post satchmo »

I would only care if it was someone that I wanted to have sex with.


*Allegedly.

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WellardSaint wrote:I don't care.
Not a problem.
The AFL is a microcosm of society, and reflects this society,
so it's not just likely, but it's probable that a percentage of AFL players are gay.

I worked in the Dept of Defence several years ago, for a long time,
and when Defence took an initiative to recognize same-sex relationships,
there were 2 officers- both majors- who applied for co-habitation allowances etc
within about a week of the announcement.
I say the gay footy players will keep under the radar for the forseeable future
because although there's strong support in the public domain, these guys (indeed maybe AFLW ladies)
still may not be sure about coming out.
What is a co-habitation allowance?
Genuine question.


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Post: # 1680866Post Joe Bloggs »

<edited by mods> was a gay AFL footballer.

<even if he is gay, he has not stated so publicly and this forum has no right to continue the publication of this post>


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Post: # 1680868Post Con Gorozidis »

The_President wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
We do now and so does the league in general.

Why don't you think the players feel comfortable with coming out?
Good question. I'm not sure of the answer.

Some insights here maybe

http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-lif ... 9952647cc1


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
The_President wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
We do now and so does the league in general.

Why don't you think the players feel comfortable with coming out?
Good question. I'm not sure of the answer.
I am speculating here. I think being the first openly gay player carries with it quite a lot of pressure and media attention. Most players wouldn't care for the amount of attention they would get. That's just off the field. Then you throw in the idiots over the fence yelling garbage at them, at least short term.

There is some positive impact to having openly gay sports stars - sadly it is still stigmatised, and the more common it becomes, the less of a news story it is, and no one will worry about what is a normal occurrence. But would be pretty hard work for that first lad. I think if a small number, even one player, came out as gay that a number would follow with less on their shoulders to worry about.


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Post: # 1680872Post prwilkinson »

Nah, I don't think anyone cares. And if they do, no one needs folks like that! But, I think what's stopping someone is that thought of being 'The first openly gay player'... No longer defined simply by your footy career but your sexuality ... plus you'd have the parasitic footy media lobbing up at your door step trying to write a story about how people need to just let you live your life... so let us write a double page spread on it. But who knows... when one player finally does, 10 other players might stick their hand up too the next day.

Think of it this way... no one gave a flying F&$K what so ever about Ian Thorpe coming out and he's one of Australia's greatest ever Olympians.


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Post: # 1680880Post Jacks Back »

I wouldn't care. As long as they don't make it compulsory. Not that there's anything wrong with that.


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Post: # 1680882Post Teflon »

The_President wrote:If one of our players were gay?

Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?


Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
Not at all "stick it right up em" as Teddy would say....


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Post: # 1680884Post satchmo »

Teflon wrote:
The_President wrote:If one of our players were gay?

Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?


Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
Not at all "stick it right up em" as Teddy would say....
Glad to hear that you still have your teddy!


*Allegedly.

Bring back Lucky Burgers, and nobody gets hurt.

You can't un-fry things.


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Post: # 1680887Post Teflon »

satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote:
The_President wrote:If one of our players were gay?

Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?


Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
Not at all "stick it right up em" as Teddy would say....
Glad to hear that you still have your teddy!
Yep with leather teddy pants and all!!


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Post: # 1680889Post satchmo »

Teflon wrote:
satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote:
The_President wrote:If one of our players were gay?

Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?


Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
Not at all "stick it right up em" as Teddy would say....
Glad to hear that you still have your teddy!
Yep with leather teddy pants and all!!
As an old ss buddy would say...."Moist!"


*Allegedly.

Bring back Lucky Burgers, and nobody gets hurt.

You can't un-fry things.


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Post: # 1680896Post Con Gorozidis »

shrodes wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
The_President wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
We do now and so does the league in general.

Why don't you think the players feel comfortable with coming out?
Good question. I'm not sure of the answer.
I am speculating here. I think being the first openly gay player carries with it quite a lot of pressure and media attention. Most players wouldn't care for the amount of attention they would get. That's just off the field. Then you throw in the idiots over the fence yelling garbage at them, at least short term.

There is some positive impact to having openly gay sports stars - sadly it is still stigmatised, and the more common it becomes, the less of a news story it is, and no one will worry about what is a normal occurrence. But would be pretty hard work for that first lad. I think if a small number, even one player, came out as gay that a number would follow with less on their shoulders to worry about.
Yep. Good sensible response. I think it is probably along those lines. Would be s*** for the first few players unless they are incredibly mentally tough and have thick skins.


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prwilkinson wrote:Nah, I don't think anyone cares. And if they do, no one needs folks like that! But, I think what's stopping someone is that thought of being 'The first openly gay player'... No longer defined simply by your footy career but your sexuality ... plus you'd have the parasitic footy media lobbing up at your door step trying to write a story about how people need to just let you live your life... so let us write a double page spread on it. But who knows... when one player finally does, 10 other players might stick their hand up too the next day.

Think of it this way... no one gave a flying F&$K what so ever about Ian Thorpe coming out and he's one of Australia's greatest ever Olympians.
Did Dawn come out? I honestly cant even remember.


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Post: # 1680903Post Enrico_Misso »

The Saints lead the way.
We had a cross dresser back in the 60s.


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Post: # 1680910Post saint-stu »

It's hard enough to build a career in the AFL without another distraction and unwanted attention from media and idiots. If someone did want to come out and promote pride and equality, I wonder if it might be easier to do after retiring?


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Post: # 1680912Post The Barometer »

Do not care. We have one. Would hope it would have no impact.
It's bloody hard for for people to reach out - consider this story-
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... 981e493fe7


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Post: # 1680931Post saintspremiers »

Last year we hosted the pride match. The crowd seemed lower than expected. I reckon our supporter base is probably not ideal for this message it seems


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Post: # 1680955Post The_President »

The Barometer wrote:Do not care. We have one. Would hope it would have no impact.
It's bloody hard for for people to reach out - consider this story-
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... 981e493fe7

Yes I'm aware, just wondered if it would impact the locker room culture at all?

Doesn't seem too. He seem's a popular lad


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