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Re: Paddy Concussed

Post: # 1680280Post Devilhead »

So whats the damage on Paddy?

Was he knocked out or was he conscious laying there with his eyes closed?

Any media release from the club?

Are we just being a tad bit overly cautious with him?

Seems to be a few sports physiologist/ head injury experts on here and plenty of hindsight draft experts as well


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Devilhead wrote:So whats the damage on Paddy?

Was he knocked out or was he conscious laying there with his eyes closed?

Any media release from the club?

Are we just being a tad bit overly cautious with him?

Seems to be a few sports physiologist/ head injury experts on here and plenty of hindsight draft experts as well
Club says good chance to play next week, this forum is full of all sorts of experts mate, just ask them, actually no need to ask, they will tell you!!!!!


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Post: # 1680284Post bigcarl »

stonecold wrote:
Club says good chance to play next week, this forum is full of all sorts of experts mate, just ask them, actually no need to ask, they will tell you!!!!!

Great. Whack a helmet on him and play him in the seniors.


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2 metre Peter > Paddy.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
In other news - "the sun is hot"! :oops:


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Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
Irrelevant

You aren't suggesting we take Wright at no. 1 are you??


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Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.

We rejected picks 4 (2 meter Pater.. we had him at 4 on our list) and 7 (we had Laverede there on our list) in order to keep pick 1 (we would have lost pick 21 going back)

That is madness... 2 early first rounders with a 2nd rounder going back is the top currency for established stars... yet we rejected the deal in order to take a punt on an untried youth. The fact that we also look to have messed up that selection is almost beside the point. Why would they not make that trade???

Just madness

The odds are always much much better to take two early first rounders than taking only 1!


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Johnny Member wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
Irrelevant

You aren't suggesting we take Wright at no. 1 are you??
We should have taken Petracca, Lever or Marchbank.

Speaking of number 1 picks - David Swallow is the shittest number 1 pick in a decade. Absolutely useless player.


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Johnny Member wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
Irrelevant

You aren't suggesting we take Wright at no. 1 are you??
What you prefer

Paddy

or

Marchbank + Laverde.

Insanity of we really rejected 4 + 7 for pick 1.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
Johnny Member wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
Irrelevant

You aren't suggesting we take Wright at no. 1 are you??
We should have taken Petracca, Lever or Marchbank.

Speaking of number 1 picks - David Swallow is the shittest number 1 pick in a decade. Absolutely useless player.
Lever will work out the best


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Post: # 1680431Post Johnny Member »

McCartin was easily the best choice. Easily.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
No no no. Wright has no physical presence and isn't a lead up forward. Dropped a couple of sitters today and only marked on smaller opponents.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
Q What does Paddy McCartin have that 2 metre Peter Wright of Gold Coast does not ?

More height - no 194 versus 203
Better mark - no
Better kick for goal - no
Gets more possessions - no
Better second ruckman - no
More AFL games experience - no
More resilent - no
Better chance of making it good at AFL level - no



A He has got type 1 diabetes - yes
He got a No 1 draft pick compared to No 8 - yes
Makes you want to cry - yes
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Imagine if Paddy got his numbers

We'd all be spoofing ourselves


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Johnny Member wrote:McCartin was easily the best choice. Easily.

Of course he was. Very confident he will fully justify the choice given reasonable time to develop.

He also needs to develop in regard to protecting himself, that will come with experience.

I am concerned though if he comes good, or horror horror has to pull the pin due to concussion issues, who are the negative nellies going to bag then?

They tried Billings for a couple of years, oops, also Acres for while, I guess Longer & Dunstan are still targets.

Perhaps a thread should be started for our top 2017 draft pick - don't know who he is yet, but let's get a head start and start bagging him!!


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Post: # 1680458Post desertsaint »

how many times do armchair critics on here want to make the same point? over and over again. why? paddy aint going anywhere. time will tell if he'll make it. this thread was about his injury and all the doomsayers used it as another excuse to troll the young man and the club. get over it.


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CURLY wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
No no no. Wright has no physical presence and isn't a lead up forward. Dropped a couple of sitters today and only marked on smaller opponents.
If your opponents are smaller you have a better chance of marking.
Meanwhile Paddy at 194cm is more often than not shorter than his opponent and is more easily spoiled.
Taking marks over shorter opponents is what you want a key forward to do.

That is why key position players need to be TALL, genuinely TALL not sort of tall, but not really tall.


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Kosi mk II.


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Johnny Member wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
Irrelevant

You aren't suggesting we take Wright at no. 1 are you??
So Peter Wright was not worthy of pick No 1 but yet he is better than Paddy.
Time shows Paddy was even less worthy.

I used to mock Melbourne for taking the Brighton Grammar boy with good character, Jack Watts.
Sadly now I would accept it as a win if Paddy's career could equal that of Watts.


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ralphsmith wrote:Kosi mk II.
Only has contributed a lot less than Kosi and Kosi only cost pick no 2.


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ralphsmith wrote:Kosi mk II.
How many more weeks before the doctors intervene and call time on Paddy's career.


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ace wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:2 metre Peter > Paddy.
No no no. Wright has no physical presence and isn't a lead up forward. Dropped a couple of sitters today and only marked on smaller opponents.
If your opponents are smaller you have a better chance of marking.
Meanwhile Paddy at 194cm is more often than not shorter than his opponent and is more easily spoiled.
Taking marks over shorter opponents is what you want a key forward to do.

That is why key position players need to be TALL, genuinely TALL not sort of tall, but not really tall.
That was meant to show he didn't out mark Brown orCarlisle. Only if he got Geary or Joey did he mark it.


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stonecold wrote:
Devilhead wrote:So whats the damage on Paddy?

Was he knocked out or was he conscious laying there with his eyes closed?

Any media release from the club?

Are we just being a tad bit overly cautious with him?

Seems to be a few sports physiologist/ head injury experts on here and plenty of hindsight draft experts as well
Club says good chance to play next week, this forum is full of all sorts of experts mate, just ask them, actually no need to ask, they will tell you!!!!!
In presser tonight, Richo said he passed the cognitive test on the field. They just decided to be conservative on the day.

Another doctor (i.e. Not game day dr) is managing him and we will know more in next few days.


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Post: # 1680590Post BigMart »

bulls***

He came back out after going off for the initial test and warmed up whilst waiting for the 20mins re-test with every intention of playing, he was running around the boundary

He then went back in and never returned


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BigMart wrote:bulls***

He came back out after going off for the initial test and warmed up whilst waiting for the 20mins re-test with every intention of playing, he was running around the boundary

He then went back in and never returned
Yep. Thanks. Just passing on the message.

"The coach allayed fears about the number of concussions McCartin has had, with the latest his sixth since 2014. Three of those came in 2016, the last of which was in round 15.

"My understanding is, given that there's been such a gap between the last knock (and Saturday's concussion), there's no real issue there," Richardson said."


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