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Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678816Post saintspremiers »

We all know it was a mistake dropping Steele. I assume Lonie goes out for him, or maybe Mav??


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678818Post Mr Magic »

The free kick Lonie 'milked' from the umpires annoyed me.
I detest it when opposition players do it and I don't like it when our players do it.

I'm not sure he has the physical attributes to successfully play the role he's currently playing (small forward) for us - his tackling pressure doesn't seem 'strong enough' to actually stop an opposition player. He seems to try hard enough just doesn't seem to 'stick tackles' and if he's not kicking 2-3 goals a week then his 'forward pressure' needs to be spot on to retain his place 9imho0


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678820Post WellardSaint »

Mr Magic wrote:The free kick Lonie 'milked' from the umpires annoyed me.
I detest it when opposition players do it and I don't like it when our players do it.

I'm not sure he has the physical attributes to successfully play the role he's currently playing (small forward) for us - his tackling pressure doesn't seem 'strong enough' to actually stop an opposition player. He seems to try hard enough just doesn't seem to 'stick tackles' and if he's not kicking 2-3 goals a week then his 'forward pressure' needs to be spot on to retain his place 9imho0
And he even missed the goal.
Does Steele come back even though Zebs have a bye?


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678821Post carn_sainter »

Steele is basically an on-baller. He is not much of a forward; Richardson likes his structure at the moment, the balance of key forwards to small forwards, inside midfielders to outside midfielders etc, so I dont think he'll put another inside midfielder in for a small forward. I think this is also why Weller hasn't been dropped yet - we don't really have a replacement.

I think it's Steele or Dunstan. I prefer Steele but Dunstan played alright this week. Started well, faded though. Not sure he'll be dropped. Maybe Koby Stevens will get a rest.

I would like to see Minchington instead of Lonie. I'm a big meatball fan.

Bailey Rice is close to selection. I wonder who makes room for him?


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678822Post spert »

We know Steele has a strong defensive game, but I think he needs a lot of work on his attacking side. Lonie is a bit more balanced but not as strong obviously. I was disappointed with Mav and can't see how he can hold his place with ordinary performances.


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Post: # 1678837Post Proph3t of egan »

Dunstan might have done something to his calf, so maybe he comes in for a straight swap


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678846Post Myron Gaines »

Weller

Dunstan/Steele to rotate mid/forward


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678847Post maverick »

Lonie for Paddy

Acres is lucky to hold his spot, thought that was Gresham best game for a while
watching Mav closely at the game, he does lots of hard bullocking off the ball and can hold a tackle.
We have too many in there at the moment that can't stick tackles.
Stevens and mav hold their spots because of this.
Or Steele comes in for one of them.


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Post: # 1678851Post citywest »

Steele for Lonie is a no brainer IMHO.


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678855Post stkmo »

Can we carry all of Dunstan, Stevens and Steele through the midfield?

Unless of course Steele plays high half forward?


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678856Post skeptic »

Most forumites would agree that is a top 22 player, but I certainly don't think it was a mistake dropping him after that performance vs Adelaide. He had an absolute STINKER.

Ppl need to get over this idea that going back to Sandy for a week or two to regain form is a horrible incident that is a blight on your career and means that you're destined for the scrap heap


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678857Post Johnny Member »

Are we seriously going with 'Man of' as his nickname?

Really?


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678862Post meher baba »

Well, as I've posted often enough, I'd prefer to see him come in for Lonie, with one or both of Gresham and Sinclair playing further forward more consistently.

On the other hand, bar injury, there isn't a desperately strong case for changing a winning combination. Dunstan and Lonie both went ok.


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Post: # 1678874Post Joffa Burns »

Johnny Member wrote:Are we seriously going with 'Man of' as his nickname?

Really?
Yep it's ordinary, but better than that guy who came up with the Barraccas nick name for Blake Acres.
That one stunk so much I can still smell it.


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Post: # 1678894Post older saint »

meher baba wrote:Well, as I've posted often enough, I'd prefer to see him come in for Lonie, with one or both of Gresham and Sinclair playing further forward more consistently.

On the other hand, bar injury, there isn't a desperately strong case for changing a winning combination. Dunstan and Lonie both went ok.
Don't want to move Sinclair he has really blossomed on the wing this year and with him and Newness it provides good options on either side.

Lonie was disappointing, especially considering his skills were something that was rated, missed an absolute sitter. Interesting as neither him or Minchington can grab that small forward type role . Cant play both but at moment there is an argument neither has grabbed a chance and perhaps shouldnt be there. Perhaps look to reinvent Savage as a small forward?


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Re: Who gets dropped for Man Of?

Post: # 1678928Post bigcarl »

stkmo wrote:Can we carry all of Dunstan, Stevens and Steele through the midfield?
They're all similar types. In and under and not much outside. I'd like to see Acres or Gresham in there more often for variety's sake.


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I would like to see McCartin in for Lonie, who whilst servicable does not have the physical attributes of a Gresham or a Daniel from the WB's

McCartin is the future and must be played

What this does is push Roo to an around the ground presence and it pushes Membrey to a different role, then pushing Weller to a different role - then the "smalls" being Gresham and Sinclair also rotating up the ground

I do agree that Acres should be spending time in the mid field instead of running the flanks - his skills and his body says mid field as does his innovation with the ball

Gresham to me does not have the body for centre square exposure

But Jack needs some help - and this is where Freeman comes in

I thought Steele's presence fell away - and he hasn't really nailed a game yet - but it will come. I acknowledge tackles but that means you do not have the call in your hands

I look forward to Armo's return which will ask more questions. Because Armo is an automatic selection

It hinges on Roo's ability to contribute as a ruck/rover midfielder able to use his experience to position himself and use his arial and disposal skills

Then there is our ruck situation

And Dunstan started well before being slowed - so it is Steele v Dunstan v Stevens with 2 to play

Then there is Freeman


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Post: # 1678938Post To the top »

And I forgot Jack "points" Billings who runs around the forward line keeping the video umpire employed


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Post: # 1678989Post ace »

To the top wrote:I would like to see McCartin in for Lonie, who whilst servicable does not have the physical attributes of a Gresham or a Daniel from the WB's

McCartin is the future and must be played

What this does is push Roo to an around the ground presence and it pushes Membrey to a different role, then pushing Weller to a different role - then the "smalls" being Gresham and Sinclair also rotating up the ground

I do agree that Acres should be spending time in the mid field instead of running the flanks - his skills and his body says mid field as does his innovation with the ball

Gresham to me does not have the body for centre square exposure

But Jack needs some help - and this is where Freeman comes in

I thought Steele's presence fell away - and he hasn't really nailed a game yet - but it will come. I acknowledge tackles but that means you do not have the call in your hands

I look forward to Armo's return which will ask more questions. Because Armo is an automatic selection

It hinges on Roo's ability to contribute as a ruck/rover midfielder able to use his experience to position himself and use his arial and disposal skills

Then there is our ruck situation

And Dunstan started well before being slowed - so it is Steele v Dunstan v Stevens with 2 to play

Then there is Freeman
I like the idea of MCartin in for Lonie
But only if that in is for Lonie at Sandy.
Lonie played in Sandy's last game because Sandy did not play last weekend.
McCartin may be the future but at the moment he is Cr@p.

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Post: # 1678994Post bigcarl »

I do agree that Acres should be spending time in the mid field instead of running the flanks - his skills and his body says mid field as does his innovation with the ball
Agree. He's a natural for that role and the club may be doing itself a disservice by consigning him to the flanks. He's one of our best young players and should be where the ball is. Steele, Dunstan, Steven. All good solid players, but don't offer much flair. Put him in the guts with Steven, Ross and either Steele or Dunstan. See if one of them can play as a flanker.
Gresham to me does not have the body for centre square exposure
Maybe not yet, but he will. Don't forget how few games he has played. He a stocky little bugger and very nimble. I think it would be another big mistake by the club to pigeon-hole him as a small forward. A big mistake.


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Post: # 1678995Post kosifantutti »

It's great to hear that Steele played so well for Sandringham that he is an automatic inclusion next week.


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Post: # 1679063Post Leo.J »

Johnny Member wrote:Are we seriously going with 'Man of' as his nickname?

Really?
How about Trent?

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Post: # 1679066Post ace »

kosifantutti wrote:It's great to hear that Steele played so well for Sandringham that he is an automatic inclusion next week.
I heard that his opponent was unsighted.
Opponent did not get a kick, handpass, not even one statistic.
It is as if he didn't turn up.
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Post: # 1679068Post dragit »

Johnny Member wrote:Are we seriously going with 'Man of' as his nickname?

Really?
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Post: # 1679070Post ace »

dragit wrote:
Johnny Member wrote:Are we seriously going with 'Man of' as his nickname?

Really?
stainless?
I prefer Stalin - ruthless murdering tyrant, destroys his enemies.
Stal is Russian for steel.
Stalin has been translated as "man of steel".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin


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