Jaxons come on down

[DWOODROW]

Just to clarify, is "no he's not unhappy at the Saints" the same as "he IS unhappy at the Saints"? There's so much negativity in that statement I've become confused!

Loves the saints

[borderbarry]

Good to hear from you Woody. DO you know when he may make a return?

[Sainter_Dad]

Just to clarify, is "no he's not unhappy at the Saints" the same as "he IS unhappy at the Saints"? There's so much negativity in that statement I've become confused!

Just eliminate the double negatives and punctuate

"no he's not unhappy at the Saints" becomes "no, he's happy at the Saints"

[saintsRrising]

Just to clarify, is "no he's not unhappy at the Saints" the same as "he IS unhappy at the Saints"? There's so much negativity in that statement I've become confused!

Loves the saints

Great to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Linton Lodger]

Even though the win/loss ratio is not entirely surprising the method we have played in the last month had been putrid. OK we've played some top teams but it's very disappointing the way we've capitulated. Few different things done today and on Wednesday coming so hopefully their heads will be switched on Friday. It really is so much between the ears.

Seems to me that all is not well with the playing group. How can a team that performs so well against the ladder leaders follow it up with consecutive weeks of garbage? The players haven't totally lost their skills, fitness and ability in the past weeks, so it must be a mental thing. Lack of clarity about the game plan???? Lack of sense of being in it together with a focused goal????

Whatever it is let's pray it turns around this week.

This season, I think you could ask that question in regard to every team in the competition, including GWS, Adelaide and Geelong. A team only needs to be 1% or 2% off and they'll be smashed. It is an extraordinarily even season, a point many here miss.

[tony74]

Progressing well too. Working with Sean. We will be one backman down though.

[Linton Lodger]

Progressing well too. Working with Sean. We will be one backman down though.

Riewoldt to CHB? I think GT's suggestion has merit.

[longtimesaint]

Progressing well too. Working with Sean. We will be one backman down though.

Riewoldt to CHB? I think GT's suggestion has merit.

We will need some height in the backline as North have Waite and Brown -both very tall and good marks.
Not a good week to be down a backman.

[Proph3t of egan]

Progressing well too. Working with Sean. We will be one backman down though.

Riewoldt to CHB? I think GT's suggestion has merit.

We will need some height in the backline as North have Waite and Brown -both very tall and good marks.
Not a good week to be down a backman.

dont forgot Mason Wood as a tall forward for them, hard to forgot after the debacle last year

[WellardSaint]

Progressing well too. Working with Sean. We will be one backman down though.

Effectively 2 backmen down, because the absence of one, means Robbo has to be accountable,
and can't play that loose man down back, therefore becomes a huge liability.
For someone of his height and experience, he is useless in the contest.

I don't care that he was awarded "Sainter of the Day" 6 times this year,
we play one extra down back to free him up, so he gets cheap easy kicks.
The second quarter of one game, the oppo changed their forward line
and his "talent" was exposed as fake. All-Australian my southern blowhole.

The quicker Goddard comes on, the better.
Sick of seeing Robbo get lauded as a divine hybrid of Alex Rance and Josh Gibson, when
he is just a downhill skier.

[Proph3t of egan]

Progressing well too. Working with Sean. We will be one backman down though.

Effectively 2 backmen down, because the absence of one, means Robbo has to be accountable,
and can't play that loose man down back, therefore becomes a huge liability.
For someone of his height and experience, he is useless in the contest.

I don't care that he was awarded "Sainter of the Day" 6 times this year,
we play one extra down back to free him up, so he gets cheap easy kicks.
The second quarter of one game, the oppo changed their forward line
and his "talent" was exposed as fake. All-Australian my southern blowhole.

The quicker Goddard comes on, the better.
Sick of seeing Robbo get lauded as a divine hybrid of Alex Rance and Josh Gibson, when
he is just a downhill skier.

You've got some issues man
Robbo isn't a loose player this year. He still plays on an opponent, he just knows when to come of them. And he doesn't get cheap easy disposals, he takes the kick ins, which shows the coaches have faith in his kicking. He played on Otten against Adelaide, who kicked 1 goal and had 9 disposals in a game where we were getting monstered in the backline.and midfield

Not to mention the fact that he is the leader of our defense and makes sure our structures are set during the game

[WellardSaint]

Progressing well too. Working with Sean. We will be one backman down though.

AFL website says
"Carlisle copped a heavy corkie against Adelaide but is expected to face North Melbourne"
as reported by Dinny Navaratnam (Dinny actually doesn't drive a Navara, he owns a Toyota HiLux )

so either Jake is out, or NJB is secretly injured (he did come off late and spoke to one trainer, looked in a bit of pain)

[degruch]

Progressing well too. Working with Sean. We will be one backman down though.

AFL website says
"Carlisle copped a heavy corkie against Adelaide but is expected to face North Melbourne"
as reported by Dinny Navaratnam (Dinny actually doesn't drive a Navara, he owns a Toyota HiLux )

so either Jake is out, or NJB is secretly injured (he did come off late and spoke to one trainer, looked in a bit of pain)

I don't think Browny's 'secretly injured', he was very obviously injured on Friday and the press pretty much consigned him to a couple weeks off straight away.

[Rick88]

Hearing much at this stage Jaxons?

[Teflon]

It's that time of year again....
"Jax Time"
My kids love this time of year..... in their Jax T shirts!!

[dragit]

This is what I heard we will be doing:

trade out:
hickey 350
savage 300
lonie 200
weller 350

delist/retire
Riewoldt 500 (250 cap)
Montagna 500 (250 cap)
Gilbert 400
Dempster 400
wright 150
holmes 150


making roughly 2.8 million cap space

free agents
Martin 1.2
Pittard 500

trade in
Kelly 800 (our 2017 & 2018 1st)
Lever 800 (hawthorns 2017 1st)

costing roughly 3.3 million PA

[SaintPav]

Dream on

[dragit]

[dragit]

[WellardSaint]

This is what I heard we will be doing:

trade out:
hickey 350
savage 300
lonie 200
weller 350

delist/retire
Riewoldt 500 (250 cap)
Montagna 500 (250 cap)
Gilbert 400
Dempster 400
wright 150
holmes 150


making roughly 2.8 million cap space

free agents
Martin 1.2
Pittard 500

trade in
Kelly 800 (our 2017 & 2018 1st)
Lever 800 (hawthorns 2017 1st)

costing roughly 3.3 million PA

Not going anywhere:
Savage, Weller, Gilbert
Savage has reinvented himself after a stint in VFL, seems to be better than ever (Monty's absence maybe, or maturity, or both)
Weller will have surgery+rehab in offseason (dodgy ankle?) and may well come good.
Gilbo is loved by all the coaches, despite continual sloppy kicking out on the full or straight to a bloody opponent. Can't fault his 2nd+3rd efforts, like a hungry lion.

Yours is a wish list and has no bearing on reality.

[Con Gorozidis]

Trade value for Savage, Weller, HIckey or Lonie = 0. Nil. Nada. Nothing. Zilch. Unless you mean to the VFL?

If we got one of either Martin, Lever or Kelly it would be a massive coup and a massive surprise.
Claiming all three is truly laughable.

[WellardSaint]

Trade value for Savage, Weller, HIckey or Lonie = 0. Nil. Nada. Nothing. Zilch. Unless you mean to the VFL?

If we got one of either Martin, Lever or Kelly it would be a massive coup and a massive surprise.
Claiming all three is truly laughable.

Correct...those guys have been in the system for ages, nobody will be looking at them.
No value to anyone except state leagues.

[GregPackhamsHeadband]

I like your plan, dragit, but alas I fear it is a beautiful dream, appropriately framed by the rainbow vomitting unicorn. The only players of any trade value we have and would be willing to trade are Dunstan, Longer, Webster and shock horror, Newnes!

[SaintPav]

I like your plan, dragit, but alas I fear it is a beautiful dream, appropriately framed by the rainbow vomitting unicorn. The only players of any trade value we have and would be willing to trade are Dunstan, Longer, Webster and shock horror, Newnes!

I would pass on Pittard as he's not really an upgrade on Webster.

If we can't get Kelly, we should keep the picks and just keep building and developing our list.

Improving coaching department, player development and recruiting has to be a major focus.

Sounds boring I know.

[dragit]

Someone call the fun police

The idea of trading out those players was to make a bit of cap and list space, not cash in on high draft picks.

If players like Weller, Lonie & Savage aren't worth a 3rd or 4th rounder then they shouldn't be on our list anyway.