Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

Post: # 1675997Post Johnny Member »

meher baba wrote:Otherwise: I don't know if anyone noticed, but we had a pretty good second quarter. Stevens, Steven, Ross, Gilbo, Roberton, Brown (to some extent) did well.
No we didn't.

We were horrible.

Not as bad as the first quarter - but our forward movement and skill level was deplorable. This 'bomb it long to the top of the square' nonsense must cease.

It's nonsensical.



Come on, 1.3 to 3.3 for a quarter of football cannot ever be described as 'pretty good'. The day we start describing that as 'pretty good' is the day we are rebuilding.


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

Post: # 1675999Post meher baba »

Mav has ability. I reckon it's really unfair to bag him when Wright and Joey are far more deserving.


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

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dals_da_bomb wrote:Thanking God for half time. Because i need the break.

On a side note - im glad to join in tonight on here. I rarely get the chance to.
HASHTAG being positive.
But how was the pizza?
Look.. its going to need to nurse me through a hangover.
Ive turned to beer in my moment of need. (or thats all that was available)
I hate beer. Im very EARLY 30s. Ive drank less than 3 beers in my life. I hate it.
But when you need support you need support .. and right now i need support.


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

Post: # 1676001Post Con Gorozidis »

Otiman wrote:
meher baba wrote:I've seen a lot of love for Wright on this forum. Some claim he's a good defensive forward. Buggered if I can see it.
I've defended Wright up until today. He is getting some ball across half back and it shows him up.

In his defense, we have to get the ball into the forward line for a defensive forward to do their job.
Same here. I have also defended Wright over the years...... But tonight might just be the night I put a line through him.

He is 23 ffs. No longer a kid. If he is no good now he isnt going to improve much from here. In his 5th season.

He is miles off it
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

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For a team that relies on pressure we sure are crap at tackling. need to bring in a rugby expert - the guys have no idea unless they get a player unprepared.
also at a loss to understand why we cannot slow the tempo of a game when we're getting rogered. obviously not coached to do so, or very poorly coached. losing any hope richo can take us further. bringing in a couple of elite mids will not bring us success by itself. we need a better general.
okay. rant over. Carn the Saints!


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

Post: # 1676004Post longtimesaint »

I think we need to take our two daft picks to the draft and get some elite talent.


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

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Darth Vader wrote:
BigMart wrote:Yes Sinclair Good, Gilbert good, Steven had a crack in the second qtr and Koby is beating Fyfe

That's it
Seb?
Been alright, would like to see even up the hb:kick ratio - 14 handballs, 8 kicks.


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

Post: # 1676008Post saintsRrising »

Ross has had a HUGE amont of the ball YES. But has absolutely butchered it unfortunately. Pity that he has not been cleaner with his ball use.


Time after time saints players have gotten to the ball first, but have then either fumbled, or handballed to team mate ina bad position so that Adelaide wins the ball. Sinclair is the exception.


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Post: # 1676009Post mullet »

dals_da_bomb wrote:
shrodes wrote:
dals_da_bomb wrote:Thanking God for half time. Because i need the break.

On a side note - im glad to join in tonight on here. I rarely get the chance to.
HASHTAG being positive.
But how was the pizza?
Look.. its going to need to nurse me through a hangover.
Ive turned to beer in my moment of need. (or thats all that was available)
I hate beer. Im very EARLY 30s. Ive drank less than 3 beers in my life. I hate it.
But when you need support you need support .. and right now i need support.
Thats really funny.


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

Post: # 1676010Post Darth Vader »

ROLS-LEE wrote:
SuperSaint wrote:
jonesy wrote:
Linton Street Saint wrote:
longtimesaint wrote:Amazing how Lynch wasn't good enough for our team
He asked to go home you flipping t**t

Get your facts right before you slag the club off
He's from melbourne,was a saints fan...

How embarrassing this must be for you now...
That's right. Melb boy from Brighton Grammar.
Couldn't get a game and once in couldn't get it. We were to Roo conscious plus our disposal was crap.

Put paddy in a good team and he will do the same.
Reckon the fact that Rossy said about 2 words to him in 3 years had something to do with him leaving (PS he went to Haileybury actually).


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

Post: # 1676012Post BigMart »

Browns confidence was rocked by Stringer last game (wrong match up)

And Jenkins is too big for him...

He is a mess

I'm really disappointed in Geary, love him as a player... tonight he's played like a nervous teenager
Not good enough from the skipper... to be panicking


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Seems like joey decided whether he will retire during the bye


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I must be the only one that kind of likes what I'm seeing from Paddy...

If he's shot for goal wasn't so embarrassing I'd have said he did ok.

He does a few nice things


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

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Why do the Saints always seem to come back from the Bye looking like we have been on holidays too long?


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Post: # 1676017Post Con Gorozidis »

desertsaint wrote:For a team that relies on pressure we sure are crap at tackling. need to bring in a rugby expert - the guys have no idea unless they get a player unprepared.
also at a loss to understand why we cannot slow the tempo of a game when we're getting rogered. obviously not coached to do so, or very poorly coached. losing any hope richo can take us further. bringing in a couple of elite mids will not bring us success by itself. we need a better general.
okay. rant over. Carn the Saints!
Our 'pressure' is a massive myth.
We are one of the easiest sides in the AFL to play against.
We are ranked 18th for opposition disposal efficiency. This means our pressure and tackling is very poor.


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outclassed... next year will be better. I like the way Ross and roberton are progressing...I see something in Paddy..... we will have some high picks next year and will pick up (hopefully a tough midfielder) while some of the young brigade will be a bit stronger and street smart. I'm afraid I'm not sure about Richo. apart from that bring on 2018


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

Post: # 1676019Post bigred »

Stuv- bugger all.
Longer- bugger all.
Stevens- bugger all.
Steele- bugger all.
Mav-bugger all.
Joey- more cheapies and lofted kicking.
Brown- pantsed in that 1st qtr.
Sinclair- bugger all.
Skunk - bugger all.
Gresh- bugger all.
Billings- bugger all.

All our stats tell a lie.

Seb ross is the only bloke having a crack. Apart from Paddy's piss poor attempt at a shoulder charge.

If these guys actually got physical and put some real pressure on.. we could at least push the cobtest. This is gonna be 80+ if they dont harden up. Put your fkn head over it and at least aho us you give a f***


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Post: # 1676020Post Con Gorozidis »

saintsRrising wrote:Why do the Saints always seem to come back from the Bye looking like we have been on holidays too long?
I'll remind you that we were just as poor before the bye....

I dont think the bye is the issue.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
desertsaint wrote:For a team that relies on pressure we sure are crap at tackling. need to bring in a rugby expert - the guys have no idea unless they get a player unprepared.
also at a loss to understand why we cannot slow the tempo of a game when we're getting rogered. obviously not coached to do so, or very poorly coached. losing any hope richo can take us further. bringing in a couple of elite mids will not bring us success by itself. we need a better general.
okay. rant over. Carn the Saints!
Our 'pressure' is a massive myth.
We are one of the easiest sides in the AFL to play against.
We are ranked 18th for opposition disposal efficiency. This means our pressure and tackling is very poor.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

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skeptic wrote:I must be the only one that kind of likes what I'm seeing from Paddy...

If he's shot for goal wasn't so embarrassing I'd have said he did ok.

He does a few nice things
Pady has been good though his kicking has not been good. That shot on goal was terrible. and that field kick where he had two team mates in the clear, but kick it straight to the Crow in the middle of them.

But overall Paddy has been quite ok.


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Post: # 1676024Post Con Gorozidis »

longtimesaint wrote:I think we need to take our two daft picks to the draft and get some elite talent.
Agree. Topping up with a mature player would be kidding ourselves. Our list is not ready for a 'top up'.


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Post: # 1676026Post Con Gorozidis »

The Fireman wrote:outclassed... next year will be better. I like the way Ross and roberton are progressing...I see something in Paddy..... we will have some high picks next year and will pick up (hopefully a tough midfielder) while some of the young brigade will be a bit stronger and street smart. I'm afraid I'm not sure about Richo. apart from that bring on 2018
Better next year? We say that every year.
Roberton and Ross are not the problem. They are already mature. They wont improve much from here.


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Post: # 1676027Post mullet »

The Fireman wrote:outclassed... next year will be better. I like the way Ross and roberton are progressing...I see something in Paddy..... we will have some high picks next year and will pick up (hopefully a tough midfielder) while some of the young brigade will be a bit stronger and street smart. I'm afraid I'm not sure about Richo. apart from that bring on 2018
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Crows Round 12 2017

Post: # 1676028Post meher baba »

BM: Too hard on Gears. Betts is in career best form this year. And he gets far too much leniency from the umps. Geary has been competitive under the circumstances.


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All the pre season hipe was just to suck in us to buy memberships


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