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Saints v blues match thread
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Nice win - especially considering that we were one man down for rotations for most of the game.
Showed good fitness to run the game out - did we stuff up tapering costing us the Melbourne game and probably to West Coast game?????
Carlton showed good pressure - and great defense - they will win their share of games this year
Showed good fitness to run the game out - did we stuff up tapering costing us the Melbourne game and probably to West Coast game?????
Carlton showed good pressure - and great defense - they will win their share of games this year
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typical of you. complain when he doesn't get enough of it, then complain when he does.BigMart wrote:Dunstan got more of the ball, and wish he didn't
I figured out what's worse than him not getting a kick... him actually getting a kick.
He is so slow it's funny
every comment you've made after the win is negative. the sun was in my eyes, the mids all handballed too much (dunstan didn't by the way), dinstan got too much of it, underwhelming...
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It's called Little Mart Syndrome, where it's impossible to find a shred of positivity in your life... quite sad reallydesertsaint wrote:typical of you. complain when he doesn't get enough of it, then complain when he does.BigMart wrote:Dunstan got more of the ball, and wish he didn't
I figured out what's worse than him not getting a kick... him actually getting a kick.
He is so slow it's funny
every comment you've made after the win is negative. the sun was in my eyes, the mids all handballed too much (dunstan didn't by the way), dinstan got too much of it, underwhelming...
Re: Saints v blues match thread
We played poorly, the majority would think that... Dunstan made some horrendous errors... that was obvious
10 000 supporters on the wing had the sun directly in their eyes after HT
We beat a bottom 3 team by 2 goals... and over handballed
Nothing ground breaking there
10 000 supporters on the wing had the sun directly in their eyes after HT
We beat a bottom 3 team by 2 goals... and over handballed
Nothing ground breaking there
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desertsaint wrote:typical of you. complain when he doesn't get enough of it, then complain when he does.BigMart wrote:Dunstan got more of the ball, and wish he didn't
I figured out what's worse than him not getting a kick... him actually getting a kick.
He is so slow it's funny
every comment you've made after the win is negative. the sun was in my eyes, the mids all handballed too much (dunstan didn't by the way), dinstan got too much of it, underwhelming...
Exactly right. Will repeatedly peddle his case over and over to make you think he is correct.
28 is a strong game. At the game missed a lot of in and under. Yes saw a couple of turnovers. But got more of it and hopefully appreciate his game more tonight.
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I thought he played alright... presented well and did a few nice things... his game lacked some polish but so did 3/4 of the midfield at one time or another.
Wasn't a great game for skills or decision making but Dunstan, like Gilbert who had some howlers too, was one of the main reasons we got over. He won contests.
Wasn't a great game for skills or decision making but Dunstan, like Gilbert who had some howlers too, was one of the main reasons we got over. He won contests.
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Dunstan did make some horrendous errors and he is slow. I can't see how you can argue with that.
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28 disposals but Dunstan was low on; contested possessions, clearances, and tackles. No Koby Stevens.
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Yeah, Dunstan looked a level below today. He is clearly behind Steven, Ross, Steele, Stevens, Newnes, Armitage, as centre bounce players and doesn't add, outside of a centre bounce, as much as Acres, Gresham, Sinclair, Minchington and others who could play through the middle of the ground. Dunstan and Savage are the two who have improved the least from 2016 compared to the rest of the list.
He is by no means rubbish, but he is at the bottom of the pile at the moment, I reckon.
One passage of play in the third had him put a couple of efforts in over 50-60m deep in defence, after which he was knackered. On his haunches in front of the moorabbin wing and stuffed. As I would expect to see after a full 100m sprint, not 50m. That was worrying. It's not so easy to improve some aspects of running capacity...there is certainly a limit on sprint explosiveness, and his is low. Endurance is easier to improve, but not in-season so much. He needs to get smarter and better at getting himself to the ball first and being more effective at clearances/stoppages.
I think Dunstan's career will be Armitage-like, in that he'll be okayish until he is 25-27, have a couple of really good seasons, largely by virtue of the natural churn of players, and then struggle again as he gets towards 30. But if he can really smarten up, study, work closely with his teammates and get his hands lightning fast he can be a very effective player.
He is by no means rubbish, but he is at the bottom of the pile at the moment, I reckon.
One passage of play in the third had him put a couple of efforts in over 50-60m deep in defence, after which he was knackered. On his haunches in front of the moorabbin wing and stuffed. As I would expect to see after a full 100m sprint, not 50m. That was worrying. It's not so easy to improve some aspects of running capacity...there is certainly a limit on sprint explosiveness, and his is low. Endurance is easier to improve, but not in-season so much. He needs to get smarter and better at getting himself to the ball first and being more effective at clearances/stoppages.
I think Dunstan's career will be Armitage-like, in that he'll be okayish until he is 25-27, have a couple of really good seasons, largely by virtue of the natural churn of players, and then struggle again as he gets towards 30. But if he can really smarten up, study, work closely with his teammates and get his hands lightning fast he can be a very effective player.
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Seriously. If you want to single out ONE player today for not playing well. Why on earth would be be Dunstan unless you have an agenda?
He was not our best, but two thirds off the team played worse games than him today.
He was not our best, but two thirds off the team played worse games than him today.
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That sun was worse than I thought.BigMart wrote:
We beat a bottom 3 team by 2 goals
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Odd. I was at the game, but while roof was open it was cloudy and light was diffused.kosifantutti wrote:That sun was worse than I thought.BigMart wrote:
We beat a bottom 3 team by 2 goals
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Interesting game. Got the 4 points. Nearly 25 more inside 50's. if the guys lowered their eyes a bit more going forward we'd probably have won by 10-12 goals. Very bomby going forward and the bigger forwards seem to love all running to the same spot and turning a one on one into a pack situation... Need to work on that. Still... a wins a win. Thought Acres looked really good. Billings starting to show his class. The lads just got it done today. Poor old Jake... His aggots will be purple after he got split open.
Savage in for Webster? When's Armo back? Thought Jimmy Web looked awesome early and was ready for a big one. Game changed a bit as soon as he went off.
Savage in for Webster? When's Armo back? Thought Jimmy Web looked awesome early and was ready for a big one. Game changed a bit as soon as he went off.
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Also if Armo and K. Stephens are going to come in... who comes out? Dunstan and....?
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Minch will be on thin ice after just 9 possies. Struggles to be consistent at AFL level does Minchy. Will have one cracker of a game, then go quiet for a couple.prwilkinson wrote:Also if Armo and K. Stephens are going to come in... who comes out? Dunstan and....?
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Yeah, fair point. Forgot about meatball. Gees we'll be a tough hard at it side with Armo and Stephens in there as well.Bluthy wrote:Minch will be on thin ice after just 9 possies. Struggles to be consistent at AFL level does Minchy. Will have one cracker of a game, then go quiet for a couple.prwilkinson wrote:Also if Armo and K. Stephens are going to come in... who comes out? Dunstan and....?
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been given a warning for calling Carlton "the cheating wogs" I have been here since the start of saintsational it appears I may have to say goodbye. I will always call them the cheating wogs and feel comfortable with it .
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Don't go FireyThe Fireman wrote:been given a warning for calling Carlton "the cheating wogs" I have been here since the start of saintsational it appears I may have to say goodbye. I will always call them the cheating wogs and feel comfortable with it .
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would like to stay Sempers lets see how it pans outSemperFidelis wrote:Don't go FireyThe Fireman wrote:been given a warning for calling Carlton "the cheating wogs" I have been here since the start of saintsational it appears I may have to say goodbye. I will always call them the cheating wogs and feel comfortable with it .
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Prolly been mentioned but that great tackle by Sinclair in the last qtr pretty much stopped Carlscum going up by 7 pts and was a major turning point
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I've got a spare bag of concrete mix in the shed for ya Firey...HTFU you pale faced red haired freckly face xxxxThe Fireman wrote:would like to stay Sempers lets see how it pans outSemperFidelis wrote:Don't go FireyThe Fireman wrote:been given a warning for calling Carlton "the cheating wogs" I have been here since the start of saintsational it appears I may have to say goodbye. I will always call them the cheating wogs and feel comfortable with it .
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Minch plays in a different position
He is not going to be a high possession player, as a deep small forward
It's interesting
When quoting Dunstan's average numbers (17), it is said we can't use numbers as a measure... then when he gets 28,we should?!
What is it? I suppose whatever suits??
He was opposed to Murphy for a lot of the game at stoppage, and both got a fair bit of the footy... I don't think Luke was horrendous, he got his hands on it, but I think he made some woeful decisions at times. He was not better than 2/3 of the team... he was average.
At one stage 8 possessions and 13 pts whatever that mean, possibly it suggests he was not using it well.
Billings, Gilbert, Ross, Steven, Carlisle, Gilbert, Newnes, Brown, Steele, Acres, Longer, Roberton, Geary
He was better than
Minchington, Riewoldt, Joey, Bruce, Membrey, Gresham
This agenda crap is rubbish too
I hope he comes on in leaps and bounds, and I know what he needs to do in order for that to happen
He is not going to be a high possession player, as a deep small forward
It's interesting
When quoting Dunstan's average numbers (17), it is said we can't use numbers as a measure... then when he gets 28,we should?!
What is it? I suppose whatever suits??
He was opposed to Murphy for a lot of the game at stoppage, and both got a fair bit of the footy... I don't think Luke was horrendous, he got his hands on it, but I think he made some woeful decisions at times. He was not better than 2/3 of the team... he was average.
At one stage 8 possessions and 13 pts whatever that mean, possibly it suggests he was not using it well.
Billings, Gilbert, Ross, Steven, Carlisle, Gilbert, Newnes, Brown, Steele, Acres, Longer, Roberton, Geary
He was better than
Minchington, Riewoldt, Joey, Bruce, Membrey, Gresham
This agenda crap is rubbish too
I hope he comes on in leaps and bounds, and I know what he needs to do in order for that to happen