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Don't forget we only got this pick because we gave up our 2016 first rounder pick 10.jays wrote:hawkes will 100% finish bottom 5 we killed thiss deal
st.byron wrote:Like I said, can't please everyone. There will be people reading I'm guessing who feel a warning in that context was over the top and happy that I said so.saynta wrote:st.byron wrote:Damned if we warn and damned if we don't. Where exactly is the line?markp wrote:
Effectively, he could not have said no.
I remember Ball, Max, Roo crying after losing games.
Funny that you went and cried to the mods about being called a dill.. didn't you post something about school prefect types the other day?
And really sad that calling someone a dill is deemed deserving of a warning (then having it edited out like something truly vile was said).
Agree it's a very soft warning. Agree I /we don't always get the balance exactly right. Can't please everyone.
Am very wary of giving warnings for something like calling someone a dill as it sets a pretty tight precedent. Maybe I got it wrong this time, especially as there was content after that setting out the poster's knowledge.
By the book though, it's a rule breach. By the book is not necessarily the best way to go though IMO. Context, history, humour all need to be taken into account. Happy to accept that was a very soft warning and in this case a PM to the poster would have been better.
Saintmatt, apologies.
So, calling someone a dill is now okay.
What about calling someone a moron?
I would have thought the rules prevented any personal attack. Not so evidently.
Then u compond your error by apologising.
It's all about context. Calling someone a dill is hardly an earth shattering insult. But yes, it's derogatory and by the book, against the rules.
The best course of action, in hindsight, would have been to send Saintmatt a PM letting him know he'd stepped over the line and a PM to yourself letting you know that had been done. Everyone would have probably been satisfied with that and we'd move on.
Moderating, IMO, is not about just about strictly applying the rules. The post needs to be considered in context and the history of the poster needs to be considered. Sometimes, it's just a clear warning, sometimes there's grey and it's not just B&W.
In this case, on reflection, I felt I was a bit hasty and zealous. Didn't give due consideration because I did it when in a hurry. When I looked at his post and use of "dill" again, he did back it up with some decent arguments and didn't just play the man. And it was at the very soft end of the spectrum of possible insults.
The reason I backtracked is because I'm wary of setting a precedent of warning for every minor slight. Trying to find a balance with that.
Clearly, this is not my finest hour as a mod. Sorry. I'm human and vulnerable to stuffing up from time to time.
Agree, but it is very handy to have a couple of fast seagulls on the outside who can run and break the lines come finals time. I'll happily take a seagull who gets 25 touches and kicks 3 in a GF.BigMart wrote:Isaac Smith is a seagull
saynta wrote:st.byron wrote:Like I said, can't please everyone. There will be people reading I'm guessing who feel a warning in that context was over the top and happy that I said so.saynta wrote:st.byron wrote:Damned if we warn and damned if we don't. Where exactly is the line?markp wrote:
Effectively, he could not have said no.
I remember Ball, Max, Roo crying after losing games.
Funny that you went and cried to the mods about being called a dill.. didn't you post something about school prefect types the other day?
And really sad that calling someone a dill is deemed deserving of a warning (then having it edited out like something truly vile was said).
Agree it's a very soft warning. Agree I /we don't always get the balance exactly right. Can't please everyone.
Am very wary of giving warnings for something like calling someone a dill as it sets a pretty tight precedent. Maybe I got it wrong this time, especially as there was content after that setting out the poster's knowledge.
By the book though, it's a rule breach. By the book is not necessarily the best way to go though IMO. Context, history, humour all need to be taken into account. Happy to accept that was a very soft warning and in this case a PM to the poster would have been better.
Saintmatt, apologies.
So, calling someone a dill is now okay.
What about calling someone a moron?
I would have thought the rules prevented any personal attack. Not so evidently.
Then u compond your error by apologising.
It's all about context. Calling someone a dill is hardly an earth shattering insult. But yes, it's derogatory and by the book, against the rules.
The best course of action, in hindsight, would have been to send Saintmatt a PM letting him know he'd stepped over the line and a PM to yourself letting you know that had been done. Everyone would have probably been satisfied with that and we'd move on.
Moderating, IMO, is not about just about strictly applying the rules. The post needs to be considered in context and the history of the poster needs to be considered. Sometimes, it's just a clear warning, sometimes there's grey and it's not just B&W.
In this case, on reflection, I felt I was a bit hasty and zealous. Didn't give due consideration because I did it when in a hurry. When I looked at his post and use of "dill" again, he did back it up with some decent arguments and didn't just play the man. And it was at the very soft end of the spectrum of possible insults.
The reason I backtracked is because I'm wary of setting a precedent of warning for every minor slight. Trying to find a balance with that.
Clearly, this is not my finest hour as a mod. Sorry. I'm human and vulnerable to stuffing up from time to time.
No worries mate.
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Speaking of which, he's again not selected this week. Very expensive car to have sitting in the garage not being used.MC Gusto wrote:Would be funny to swap it back for jaeger!!
How is Freeman going?st.byron wrote:Speaking of which, he's again not selected this week. Very expensive car to have sitting in the garage not being used.MC Gusto wrote:Would be funny to swap it back for jaeger!!
He's played as many games as the kid Collingwood got with the pick we traded for him. But we can pretend we sold the farm for him if you like.Bluthy wrote:How is Freeman going?st.byron wrote:Speaking of which, he's again not selected this week. Very expensive car to have sitting in the garage not being used.MC Gusto wrote:Would be funny to swap it back for jaeger!!
freeman is a camry and he needs a bit of love and attention. he's not a ferrari that's missing an axle.saint3d wrote:He's played as many games as the kid Collingwood got with the pick we traded for him. But we can pretend we sold the farm for him if you like.Bluthy wrote:How is Freeman going?st.byron wrote:Speaking of which, he's again not selected this week. Very expensive car to have sitting in the garage not being used.MC Gusto wrote:Would be funny to swap it back for jaeger!!
I am hoping Freeman is at least a WRX - but point taken about the FerrariRosco wrote:
freeman is a camry and he needs a bit of love and attention. he's not a ferrari that's missing an axle.
I agree. Maybe we bought a Camry thinking it was a WRX, but that's not the same as clearing out the Lamborghini and the Maserati to make room for the Ferrari.Sainter_Dad wrote:I am hoping Freeman is at least a WRX - but point taken about the FerrariRosco wrote:
freeman is a camry and he needs a bit of love and attention. he's not a ferrari that's missing an axle.
we bought a wrx, hoping we could fix it's blown engine, now we're hoping the cheap camry engine we've replaced it with will get it up and running again.saint3d wrote:I agree. Maybe we bought a Camry thinking it was a WRX, but that's not the same as clearing out the Lamborghini and the Maserati to make room for the Ferrari.Sainter_Dad wrote:I am hoping Freeman is at least a WRX - but point taken about the FerrariRosco wrote:
freeman is a camry and he needs a bit of love and attention. he's not a ferrari that's missing an axle.
I still recon the Swans will end up winning a few as well and leapfrog Hawks...Fidelis wrote:If the Roos get up against the suns tonight, Hawks slide to #17!
and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
