Jaxons come on down

[Wayne42]

GWS has traded out more players than any other club in recent times, have a look at Carlscum, they are the GWS seconds.

They are a list feeder for other clubs, i have NO issue with their situation, i often have an issue with our situation, however, i
think we have some very good operators at the Saints at the moment, even if we did grab a smokie with our 1st pick in the draft.

[evertonfc]

GWS finished 3rd but got 4 picks in the top 20.
Think about that for a moment.

It's f***ed.

Can someone explain it

Trading!

They are going to be might hard to catch up with unless a few clubs can start raiding their players a little more.

We should go all out next year for Shiel or Kelly to even things up.

They trade brilliantly, consistently shuffling players out who aren't best 22, attacking high-end talent and then accumulating loads of picks to build points on their academy.

Their strategy has been first class, especially considering the two Queensland clubs get similar concessions.

[SuperDuper]

GWS finished 3rd but got 4 picks in the top 20.
Think about that for a moment.

It's f***ed.

Can someone explain it

Trading!

They are going to be might hard to catch up with unless a few clubs can start raiding their players a little more.

We should go all out next year for Shiel or Kelly to even things up.

They trade brilliantly, consistently shuffling players out who aren't best 22, attacking high-end talent and then accumulating loads of picks to build points on their academy.

Their strategy has been first class, especially considering the two Queensland clubs get similar concessions.

well... the queensland clubs dont have AFL dominated regions in their zones
And the GWS got more draft picks in their establishment than GCS, but also could learn from any mistakes GCS made

So... with a beneficial hand one can say they have drafted and traded well.. but when you check their use of high draft picks their record is not all that good

[stonecold]

Well, another good draft, Gippy Power, only one selection, and a stand out, maybe they have a coaching problem and some of the wrong kids were promoted and put forward, Leigh Brown = Dud Coach, maybe!!!!

[ace]

How did Hawthorn get away with giving their 2017 second rounder to Gold Coast instead of that from GWS via Carlton.

From AFL Indicative Draft
"If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selections from the same draft. However if a club retains its future first-round selection, it can trade multiple future selections from other rounds."
Is it like playing a match, there are rules but they are not enforced.

They went and did it again.

This is what the AFL allowed GWS to do.
First at trade 33 they allowed GWS to trade away their own 2017 first and 2017 third round picks - this was the Delidio deal with Richmond.
Then at trade 34 they allowed GWS to trade away their own 2017 second round pick after already trading out their own 2017 first round pick - this was part of the Marchbank deal with Carlton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_AFL_draft

Did I mention that the AFL IS CORRUPT

[ace]

GWS finished 3rd but got 4 picks in the top 20.
Think about that for a moment.

It's f***ed.

Can someone explain it

Trading!

Trading while bank rolled by the AFL.
They even got the AFL to break the rules to allow them to trade in Delidio.

[CURLY]

GWS finished 3rd but got 4 picks in the top 20.
Think about that for a moment.

It's f***ed.

Can someone explain it

Trading!

Yeah they got Delidio and still have 4 top twenty picks.

Just think is Sandy was our academy how well we would have done.

[magnifisaint]

Con,

Liam Ryan didn't get drafted. What happened? I thought he was an excitement machine?

[Con Gorozidis]

Con,

Liam Ryan didn't get drafted. What happened? I thought he was an excitement machine?

The speccie machine! I know I know. Disappointing for me. His dad is Darren 'Snotty' Ryan. That alone should have got him drafted imo.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/rising- ... 498f849466

[magnifisaint]

Con,

Liam Ryan didn't get drafted. What happened? I thought he was an excitement machine?

The speccie machine! I know I know. Disappointing for me. His dad is Darren 'Snotty' Ryan. That alone should have got him drafted imo.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/rising- ... 498f849466

Good ole Snotty. You didn't want to be around him when he was coming through.

[Con Gorozidis]

Con,

Liam Ryan didn't get drafted. What happened? I thought he was an excitement machine?

The speccie machine! I know I know. Disappointing for me. His dad is Darren 'Snotty' Ryan. That alone should have got him drafted imo.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/rising- ... 498f849466

Good ole Snotty. You didn't want to be around him when he was coming through.

He could have been the new SOS
Son of Snotty.

[jaxons]

The Koby Stevens deal may have hit a snag late today.
Still working through some last minute scenarios.
May not get him by 2pm deadline tomorrow but will secure him one way or another.

The Doggies list manager said the trade would go through before the trade period closed on Thursday.

And it did.

Never any snags imho.

You think??

I hate to say I told you so.......but:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/t ... b9229f5bce

Stevens was eventually swapped for a clutch of late draft picks, but he says the last-gasp trade was just the final drama of one of his toughest years.

“It was pretty stressful. The Dogs and St Kilda had agreed on a deal the day before, but it fell through. I messaged my manager Ned Guy with 20 minutes to go and he said, ‘We are struggling’,’’ Stevens told the Sunday Herald Sun

[dragit]

The Koby Stevens deal may have hit a snag late today.
Still working through some last minute scenarios.
May not get him by 2pm deadline tomorrow but will secure him one way or another.

The Doggies list manager said the trade would go through before the trade period closed on Thursday.

And it did.

Never any snags imho.

You think??

I hate to say I told you so.......but:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/t ... b9229f5bce

Stevens was eventually swapped for a clutch of late draft picks, but he says the last-gasp trade was just the final drama of one of his toughest years.

“It was pretty stressful. The Dogs and St Kilda had agreed on a deal the day before, but it fell through. I messaged my manager Ned Guy with 20 minutes to go and he said, ‘We are struggling’,’’ Stevens told the Sunday Herald Sun

What was the deal that fell through jxn?

[magnifisaint]

The Koby Stevens deal may have hit a snag late today.
Still working through some last minute scenarios.
May not get him by 2pm deadline tomorrow but will secure him one way or another.

The Doggies list manager said the trade would go through before the trade period closed on Thursday.

And it did.

Never any snags imho.

You think??

I hate to say I told you so.......but:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/t ... b9229f5bce

Stevens was eventually swapped for a clutch of late draft picks, but he says the last-gasp trade was just the final drama of one of his toughest years.

“It was pretty stressful. The Dogs and St Kilda had agreed on a deal the day before, but it fell through. I messaged my manager Ned Guy with 20 minutes to go and he said, ‘We are struggling’,’’ Stevens told the Sunday Herald Sun

What was the deal that fell through jxn?

None fell thru. It was in reference to the Stevens deal that nearly fell thru.

[saynta]

And.?

I said the deal would get done and it did.


Just as the doggies list manager said it would.

[dragit]

None fell thru. It was in reference to the Stevens deal that nearly fell thru.

I was just going off…

"The Dogs and St Kilda had agreed on a deal the day before, but it fell through.

Stevens was eventually swapped for a clutch of late draft picks, but he says the last-gasp trade was just the final drama of one of his toughest years."

[Spinner]

The Koby Stevens deal may have hit a snag late today.
Still working through some last minute scenarios.
May not get him by 2pm deadline tomorrow but will secure him one way or another.

The Doggies list manager said the trade would go through before the trade period closed on Thursday.

And it did.

Never any snags imho.

You think??

I hate to say I told you so.......but:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/t ... b9229f5bce

Stevens was eventually swapped for a clutch of late draft picks, but he says the last-gasp trade was just the final drama of one of his toughest years.

“It was pretty stressful. The Dogs and St Kilda had agreed on a deal the day before, but it fell through. I messaged my manager Ned Guy with 20 minutes to go and he said, ‘We are struggling’,’’ Stevens told the Sunday Herald Sun

Don't hate it Jaxons - just call it out. Someone wanted to dismiss your call based on nothing and can't even acknowledge it even when proven.

Must sting bad...

[saynta]

The Koby Stevens deal may have hit a snag late today.
Still working through some last minute scenarios.
May not get him by 2pm deadline tomorrow but will secure him one way or another.

The Doggies list manager said the trade would go through before the trade period closed on Thursday.

And it did.

Never any snags imho.

You think??

I hate to say I told you so.......but:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/t ... b9229f5bce

Stevens was eventually swapped for a clutch of late draft picks, but he says the last-gasp trade was just the final drama of one of his toughest years.

“It was pretty stressful. The Dogs and St Kilda had agreed on a deal the day before, but it fell through. I messaged my manager Ned Guy with 20 minutes to go and he said, ‘We are struggling’,’’ Stevens told the Sunday Herald Sun

Don't hate it Jaxons - just call it out. Someone wanted to dismiss your call based on nothing and can't even acknowledge it even when proven.

Must sting bad...

Oh, crap.

The doggies list manager said the deal would get done...and it was.

THE REST IS JUST PISS AND WIND.

Even Stevens manager told him it would get done.

Geez some people are full of it.

[mad saint guy]

Oh, crap.

The doggies list manager said the deal would get done...and it was.

THE REST IS JUST PISS AND WIND.

Even Stevens manager told him it would get done.

Geez some people are full of it.

Jaxons said deal hit a snag. You said it didn't (because you refuse to believe that Jaxons has inside info). Koby Stevens said it did and now you're deflecting.

FWIW, thanks Jaxons. Your posts are the main reason I still visit this board occasionally.

[saynta]

Oh, crap.

The doggies list manager said the deal would get done...and it was.

THE REST IS JUST PISS AND WIND.

Even Stevens manager told him it would get done.

Geez some people are full of it.

Jaxons said deal hit a snag. You said it didn't (because you refuse to believe that Jaxons has inside info). Koby Stevens said it did and now you're deflecting.

FWIW, thanks Jaxons. Your posts are the main reason I still visit this board occasionally.

All I said was the deal would get done.

All the rest was just fluff or piss and wind.

The deal was done as the doggies said a week before it finally was.

I don't know if jaxons has inside information or not but he and you are carrying on like a bunch of 14 year old school girls.

[asiu]

you are carrying on like a bunch of 14 year old school girls.

not that there's anything wrong with that

[Psychosaint66]

you are carrying on like a bunch of 14 year old school girls.

not that there's anything wrong with that

As long as one of them isn't psycho Kimmy.

[SuperDuper]

Oh, crap.

The doggies list manager said the deal would get done...and it was.

THE REST IS JUST PISS AND WIND.

Even Stevens manager told him it would get done.

Geez some people are full of it.

Jaxons said deal hit a snag. You said it didn't (because you refuse to believe that Jaxons has inside info). Koby Stevens said it did and now you're deflecting.

FWIW, thanks Jaxons. Your posts are the main reason I still visit this board occasionally.

All I said was the deal would get done.

All the rest was just fluff or piss and wind.

The deal was done as the doggies said a week before it finally was.

I don't know if jaxons has inside information or not but he and you are carrying on like a bunch of 14 year old school girls.

hilarious Saynta... Jaxons just provided some evidence that he has inside information, having accurately posted about a snag that hit the negotiations that only someone with inside knowledge would know. He also said at the time that the deal would get done one way or another... You simply ignore this evidence with your reactions... chosing to only focus on the whether the deal would get done or not.... and ignoring the inside information about the complication that was confirmed by Stenes himself

chosing to ignore evidence that goes against your own opinion is fine.... many people do it... just dont expect the rest of us to agree with your opinion in such a case...

This debate over whether Jaxons has inside information was well and truly setteled long ago by a pile of evidence... Next draft period, I hope the mods will open two threads, one where Jaxons and others can post and discuss, and a seperate one for Jaxons skeptics to discuss their consiparcy theories.. maybe an "is Jaxons legit thread" where discontents can vent, as much as they like, because they have every right to do that, whilst the rest of us can discuss trades and drafting in peace on another thread, where we appreciate an insider coming online to post information

[saint6709]

Oh, crap.

The doggies list manager said the deal would get done...and it was.

THE REST IS JUST PISS AND WIND.

Even Stevens manager told him it would get done.

Geez some people are full of it.

Jaxons said deal hit a snag. You said it didn't (because you refuse to believe that Jaxons has inside info). Koby Stevens said it did and now you're deflecting.

FWIW, thanks Jaxons. Your posts are the main reason I still visit this board occasionally.

All I said was the deal would get done.

All the rest was just fluff or piss and wind.

The deal was done as the doggies said a week before it finally was.

I don't know if jaxons has inside information or not but he and you are carrying on like a bunch of 14 year old school girls.

hilarious Saynta... Jaxons just provided some evidence that he has inside information, having accurately posted about a snag that hit the negotiations that only someone with inside knowledge would know. He also said at the time that the deal would get done one way or another... You simply ignore this evidence with your reactions... chosing to only focus on the whether the deal would get done or not.... and ignoring the inside information about the complication that was confirmed by Stenes himself

chosing to ignore evidence that goes against your own opinion is fine.... many people do it... just dont expect the rest of us to agree with your opinion in such a case...

This debate over whether Jaxons has inside information was well and truly setteled long ago by a pile of evidence... Next draft period, I hope the mods will open two threads, one where Jaxons and others can post and discuss, and a seperate one for Jaxons skeptics to discuss their consiparcy theories.. maybe an "is Jaxons legit thread" where discontents can vent, as much as they like, because they have every right to do that, whilst the rest of us can discuss trades and drafting in peace on another thread, where we appreciate an insider coming online to post information

Sounds sensible

[saint6709]

Oh, crap.

The doggies list manager said the deal would get done...and it was.

THE REST IS JUST PISS AND WIND.

Even Stevens manager told him it would get done.

Geez some people are full of it.

Jaxons said deal hit a snag. You said it didn't (because you refuse to believe that Jaxons has inside info). Koby Stevens said it did and now you're deflecting.

FWIW, thanks Jaxons. Your posts are the main reason I still visit this board occasionally.

All I said was the deal would get done.

All the rest was just fluff or piss and wind.

The deal was done as the doggies said a week before it finally was.

I don't know if jaxons has inside information or not but he and you are carrying on like a bunch of 14 year old school girls.

hilarious Saynta... Jaxons just provided some evidence that he has inside information, having accurately posted about a snag that hit the negotiations that only someone with inside knowledge would know. He also said at the time that the deal would get done one way or another... You simply ignore this evidence with your reactions... chosing to only focus on the whether the deal would get done or not.... and ignoring the inside information about the complication that was confirmed by Stenes himself

chosing to ignore evidence that goes against your own opinion is fine.... many people do it... just dont expect the rest of us to agree with your opinion in such a case...

This debate over whether Jaxons has inside information was well and truly setteled long ago by a pile of evidence... Next draft period, I hope the mods will open two threads, one where Jaxons and others can post and discuss, and a seperate one for Jaxons skeptics to discuss their consiparcy theories.. maybe an "is Jaxons legit thread" where discontents can vent, as much as they like, because they have every right to do that, whilst the rest of us can discuss trades and drafting in peace on another thread, where we appreciate an insider coming online to post information

Sounds sensible