Picks 23 and 36

[saintsRrising]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Though he Doggies also played a short-arse this year that went ok.


If you rate the player you pick them up. Though having said that I am very much hoping for two genuine mids.

[White Winmar]

Good enough=big enough. Think Gresham, Daniel, Harvey et al.

[Jacks Back]

Good enough=big enough. Think Gresham, Daniel, Harvey et al.

Of course, but how many small players REALLY make it and how many are in a good team on match day? Surely we still need the new-age tall mids and tall defenders to come through should Goddard not be up to it (he was a bit slow when he played some games) while Brown is just a stop-gap.

[fugazi]

So its 23, 36, and 61 for our live picks

Probably an upgrade for Blake with late pick?

Sorry Fugazi. I don't understand this comment.

I assumed he meant one of the rookies to be upgraded, but not sure who he meant by "Blake". The word is Holmes.

Oops, yes Holmes not Blake....starting to lose it

[Impatient Sainter]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Bulldogs have a heap of smaller players and they kill it - Libba, Hunter for example. We have some bigger bidies now would be happy to take a smaller mid if they have the speed and skill attributes we need.

[Jacks Back]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Bulldogs have a heap of smaller players and they kill it - Libba, Hunter for example. We have some bigger bidies now would be happy to take a smaller mid if they have the speed and skill attributes we need.

Fair enough as long as the bidies aren't too old.

[st.byron]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Bulldogs have a heap of smaller players and they kill it - Libba, Hunter for example. We have some bigger bidies now would be happy to take a smaller mid if they have the speed and skill attributes we need.

We o erlooked Daniel for Lonie. Time will tell re Lonie but Daniel is a little beauty.

[Wayne42]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Bulldogs have a heap of smaller players and they kill it - Libba, Hunter for example. We have some bigger bidies now would be happy to take a smaller mid if they have the speed and skill attributes we need.

Fair enough as long as the bidies aren't too old.

What's a bidie ?

[loris]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Bulldogs have a heap of smaller players and they kill it - Libba, Hunter for example. We have some bigger bidies now would be happy to take a smaller mid if they have the speed and skill attributes we need.

Fair enough as long as the bidies aren't too old.

What's a bidie ?

I always thought the spelling was biddy! From my interpretation, years ago i think it meant an interfering, old gossipy, bitchy woman.

Tho I think there was Scottish interpretation. I can't recall the actual spelling, it may have been 'biddie'. Think the word came up in many of Robbie Burns' writing/poetry and referred to the olde difficult village woman....... that is only my interpretation of Robbie Burns use of the word, I could be wrong............. however this old biddie doesn't often err, as you know folks!!!!! Humble biddie am I not ??

[st.byron]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Daniel goes pretty good. Would have him in a heartbeat.

[White Winmar]

Good enough=big enough. Think Gresham, Daniel, Harvey et al.

Of course, but how many small players REALLY make it and how many are in a good team on match day? Surely we still need the new-age tall mids and tall defenders to come through should Goddard not be up to it (he was a bit slow when he played some games) while Brown is just a stop-gap.

Well, Harvey and Daniel are premiership players and Gresham will be. Daniel wasn't great in the GF, but he was very good in the others this series.

[borderbarry]

Our club did exceptionally well at trading picks, when you consider we traded our first pick (10) and got back Hawthorns first round pick for next year, picks 23 and 36 in the second round, (23 is 4th pick in 2nd round and 36 is 14th pick in 2nd round) and we had no 2nd round pick at the start. And pick 61 is the 3rd pick in the 4th round. Our original 4th round was 68.

[BringBackMadDog]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Caleb Daniel says hi

[Jacks Back]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Caleb Daniel says hi

How many of these short arses would you pick in a team to win the grand final? 1? Maybe 2? Anymore and you're hoping like crazy that every game is wet and the game is played along the ground. More of the Acres/Bont type players and less of the shorties thanks (if you have a choice).

[Jacks Back]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Bulldogs have a heap of smaller players and they kill it - Libba, Hunter for example. We have some bigger bidies now would be happy to take a smaller mid if they have the speed and skill attributes we need.

Fair enough as long as the bidies aren't too old.

What's a bidie ?

I always thought the spelling was biddy! From my interpretation, years ago i think it meant an interfering, old gossipy, bitchy woman.

Tho I think there was Scottish interpretation. I can't recall the actual spelling, it may have been 'biddie'. Think the word came up in many of Robbie Burns' writing/poetry and referred to the olde difficult village woman....... that is only my interpretation of Robbie Burns use of the word, I could be wrong............. however this old biddie doesn't often err, as you know folks!!!!! Humble biddie am I not ??

Impatient Sainter said "We have some bigger bidies" (obviously meaning bodies), I went with the term "Old bidie". The correct spelling is biddy but the plural is biddies (so not far away). A biddy is "A woman, especially an older one who is extremely talkative". I hope that helps.

[borderbarry]

I think Fugazi got Sexton Blake and Sherlock Holmes mixed up.

[SuperDuper]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

oh dear.. one example followed by etc makes it official?

So why not this :

No tall dicks. The future is not taller players. Think of Lachie Neal going at 58 in the same draft as Hoskin-Elliot going at 4, etc.

[Jacks Back]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

oh dear.. one example followed by etc makes it official?

So why not this :

No tall dicks. The future is not taller players. Think of Lachie Neal going at 58 in the same draft as Hoskin-Elliot going at 4, etc.

Alright, I give up. Everyone thinks the short players are obviously better than tall players ( Lachie Neal instead of Hoskin-Elliot) so let's just draft as many sub 180cm players as we can. That MUST be the future. I'm on board. Toot Toot!

[lewdogs]

You draft the best player available I think, but becuase teams are averse to short players, it means that there is more likelihood of one of these players slipping through. Gresham is a good example of this I think - Daniel the most obvious example (pick 46 for a guy that was clearly the best player at the U18 championships; it's laughable really).

[stkfc1]

You draft the best player available I think, but becuase teams are averse to short players, it means that there is more likelihood of one of these players slipping through. Gresham is a good example of this I think - Daniel the most obvious example (pick 46 for a guy that was clearly the best player at the U18 championships; it's laughable really).

Spot on. Give me a 5'8 footballer over a 6'4 athlete anyday of the week. Pick the best skills the fitness comes later. Bit of speed would be good though!!

[fugazi]

I think Fugazi got Sexton Blake and Sherlock Holmes mixed up.

Possibly...I'm not sure what happened.
Knightmare from Bigfooty has pu his phantom draft out
http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/1 ... ntom-draft

[shrodes]

I think Fugazi got Sexton Blake and Sherlock Holmes mixed up.

Possibly...I'm not sure what happened.
Knightmare from Bigfooty has pu his phantom draft out
http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/1 ... ntom-draft

Don't know much about him but Cumming at 183cm and 72kg seems really undersized doesn't he?


His skills look alright though.

Powell-Pepper looks tough and can run through packs which would be handy. From video looks like his skills and decision making need a bit of work.

[wally]

Interstate recruits worry me, this go home stuff is becoming more readily accepted.

[mad saint guy]

Given that we already have Lonie, Gresham, Sinclair, Minchington, and Steven all 180cm or under and a host of other players under 184cm it makes sense for us to target bigger midfielders if possible. Tall, strong mids like Dangerfield, Fyfe, Kennedy, Heppell, Cripps, Bomtempelli, Pendlebury and Martin have a massive influence in modern footy and we've clearly been chasing players in that mould by going after Steele and Stevens.

With that said, if a 178cm player is fast, skilled and gets a heap of the footy then there's no reason not to draft him unless there's someone with the same skillset and a bigger body.

[Rosco]

No short arses. The future is not smaller players. Think of the Bont ahead of the Bill, etc.

Bulldogs have a heap of smaller players and they kill it - Libba, Hunter for example. We have some bigger bidies now would be happy to take a smaller mid if they have the speed and skill attributes we need.

Those two aren't tiny though, 182/183 cm