Jaxons come on down

[magnifisaint]

Seems like they may trade a player out for a 1st round pick in 2016?? That's the only explanation I can come with. I'm starting to think Hickey?

[fugazi]

Guys assuming saints don't trade 23 or 36 who we draft?

thats true...maybe get back inside top 15 again?

[desertsaint]

trade 23 and 36 for pick 9!

[st.byron]

Phenomenol deal!!!
Pick 23 Venables or Gulluci (if lucky)
Otherwise Brennan Cox or P.Kerr - very good Talls
Pick 36 KPD
Pick 50. K. Stevens

2017
Pick 5 Hakws are gone. Best player gone. Lewis and many angry hodge is cooked physically and font forget last year they won how many by under a goal. Theyll finish 12th best.
Pick 11
Second Round. Steele

2 first rounds and cashed to the max as a finals team back at moorabin. .... welcome fyfe, kelly or shiel. 100%.

2018 Flag with reiwoldts last. Going to be special.

If they finish 12th it will be pick 7.

8. Because Freo will finish bottom 3 and get a first round compo for Fyfe.

[Con Gorozidis]

Is there any possibility we go for pick 15 from GWS and draft Venables, Berry, Logue or Florent?

[st.byron]

So we've turned one pick into 2 second rounders and 1 first rounder...........well that's cool I guess.

As someone said earlier, don't get attached to pick 10!

Slightly worried that we keep using our first round pick to up trade, and so keep trading off elite talent vs multiple picks, but this does seem a good deal overall

Who are we looking at with pick 23???

I reckon it's smart use or resources. Our guys are looking at our draft picks from this year and next as our resource pool and using them to advantage. Next year's second rounder goes out for Steele, but incoming are a first rounder and an early and late second rounder. Good trading I reckon. Longer term plan in action.

[SMS]

After that trade anything could happen next week.
Ameet has stated he wants back in to first round this year. Dont know how but i see us getting pick 5-8 this year.
Dunstan and a pick? Adelaide boy does he want to go home?
If we are planning fyfe sheil kelly or martin next year then youd think one of dunstan eli armo or ross should be traded out. No way ross is. Armo is our leader. I love dunstan though ... ahhh head spinning. Info overload. What a deal! Do people realise what weve just done here!?!? Just magically produced 2 second round picks from thin air, making Steele and freeman completely FREE.
As long as acres committs and doesnt want to go home.

[minneapolis]

So basically, unless another Bontempelli or Selwood gets picked at 10 and/or Hawthorn finish above 9th next year - we've done well.

My initial reaction was shock and horror at no first round picks, but after calming down I feel like qe got a pretty good deal, especially if the 2017 class does turn out to be better than 2016

To swap a first round pick for a first round pick and two second round picks is a great deal.

[st.byron]

So basically, unless another Bontempelli or Selwood gets picked at 10 and/or Hawthorn finish above 9th next year - we've done well.

My initial reaction was shock and horror at no first round picks, but after calming down I feel like qe got a pretty good deal, especially if the 2017 class does turn out to be better than 2016

To swap a first round pick for a first round pick and two second round picks is a great deal.

Yes indeed. Excellent work.

[santazzi]

So basically, unless another Bontempelli or Selwood gets picked at 10 and/or Hawthorn finish above 9th next year - we've done well.

My initial reaction was shock and horror at no first round picks, but after calming down I feel like qe got a pretty good deal, especially if the 2017 class does turn out to be better than 2016

To swap a first round pick for a first round pick and two second round picks is a great deal.

Yes indeed. Excellent work.

Is this trade confirmed any where?

[Stephen Theodore]

So basically, unless another Bontempelli or Selwood gets picked at 10 and/or Hawthorn finish above 9th next year - we've done well.

My initial reaction was shock and horror at no first round picks, but after calming down I feel like qe got a pretty good deal, especially if the 2017 class does turn out to be better than 2016

To swap a first round pick for a first round pick and two second round picks is a great deal.

Yes indeed. Excellent work.

Is this trade confirmed any where?

Yep, all over Saints website

[Playon]

Excellent trade Ameet the master blaster..

Can we go to the bank now? Or is there more surprises?

2 firsts next year is wow when trade period starts

[ace]

So basically, unless another Bontempelli or Selwood gets picked at 10 and/or Hawthorn finish above 9th next year - we've done well.

My initial reaction was shock and horror at no first round picks, but after calming down I feel like qe got a pretty good deal, especially if the 2017 class does turn out to be better than 2016

To swap a first round pick for a first round pick and two second round picks is a great deal.

Yes indeed. Excellent work.

Is this trade confirmed any where?

Yep, all over Saints website

And included in the AFLs official indicative draft order
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-14/i ... raft-order
But then that website does not know that it is Friday today.

[ben_fff]

...apparentky a second round pick might be enough to satisfy the Brions for Tom Rockliff...

Forget the personal stuff for a moment and think of that midfield!

[fugazi]

...apparentky a second round pick might be enough to satisfy the Brions for Tom Rockliff...

Forget the personal stuff for a moment and think of that midfield!

Steele, Stevens, Steven, Acres, Armitage, Newnes......thats a tough midfield, Rockliff in too? (won't need him)

Gresham for silk, Billings for class, Freeman for speed, Dunstan for grunt

Lacking 1 elite midfielder....goes by the name Nathan....

[ben_fff]

We were a poor inside midfield team.

This idea of Rocky being no good has me puzzled. He's a tall ball magnet that's averaged between 7 and 10 tackles the last 3 years not to mention he can kick goals if he gets the opportunity to play forward.

Look at the way the Dogs shocked teams through the finals, you need to be more than average on the inside.

[Griggsy]

Im excited.
At this point Rockliff won't be worth the $'s he would want. Marginal gains given what we are putting together.

[Griggsy]

Lacking 1 elite midfielder....goes by the name Nathan....

Van Berlo?

[Devilhead]

Took advantage of Hawthorns desperate situation beautifully

We practically got a 1st round upgrade (likely to be significant) and two 2nd round picks for free

Rolled the Hawks over and nailed them

[ben_fff]

Rockliff is better than any of our midfielders with the exclusion of Steven...

...But your point about money is reasonable haha

[st.byron]

Rockliff is better than any of our midfielders with the exclusion of Steven...

...But your point about money is reasonable haha

And it seems there's 'personality issues' with Rockliff. No-one showing any interest.

[ace]

We gave away
Pick 10 (1395pts)
Pick 68 (59 pts)
Total (1454pts)

We got
approx Pick 14 from 2017 (1161pts)
Pick 23 (815pts)
Pick 36 (502 pts)
Total (2478pts)
We win on points by 1024 points = pick17

BUT
picks near the front end slip due to academy picks so our pick 10 will probably become 12 and lets say 23 becomes 25 and let Hawthorn be premiers in 2017 = pick 18 slipping to 21 say
Pick 12 (1268pts)
Pick 68 (59pts)
Total 1327pts

Pick 21 2017 (878pts)
Pick 25 (756pts)
Pick 36 (502pts)
Total 2136 pts
We win on points by 809 points = pick23

I can only imagine that Gold Coast refused to consider Hawthorn' first rounder from 2017 because Gold Coast could have had everything Hawthorn has given us instead Gold Coast gets pick 10 only plus players I imagine.

This sounds like Gold Coast have forced Hawthorn to do something stupid.
Is the 2016 draft considered that much better than 2017 ?
This definitely needs an explanation.

COME ON DOWN JAXONS

[ace]

We now have
2016 pick 23 (815pts)
2016 pick 36 (522pts)
2016 pick 50 (273pts)

2017 Hawthorns' first round pick instead of our 2nd round pick

I still can't believe it, we have gained Hawthorn's 2017 first rounder for free.

Please explain Jaxons

[ace]

Can we now trade Hawthorn's former picks 23 and 36 plus Hawthorn's 2017 first rounder to Brisbane for pick 3 or Gold Coast for pick 4 ?
Get a great player for our pick 10.

[Griggsy]

Can we now trade Hawthorn's former picks 23 and 36 plus Hawthorn's 2017 first rounder to Brisbane for pick 3 or Gold Coast for pick 4 ?
Get a great player for our pick 10.

Nah, bend the hawks over even more by giving GC 23,36 and a player for Omeara.

In all seriousness, GC in an awkward position as Omeara can walk to draft now and still get to hawks.