Jaxons come on down

[older saint]

Perhaps the Steele deal will involve some transfer of picks providing GWS points or future pick as they don't want new players due to needing to reduce salary cap.

Perhaps something like Stkilda 2nd in 2017 and 3rd round 2016 for Steele and GWS pick 30.

Provides another pick in top 30 so would be 2 and then may argue that steele is worth a top 30 pick - presto 3 picks inside 30(31 actually)?

just a thought

[Playon]

But then you're forgetting about Stevens, some rate him as high as mid 20's. Hopefully he's a 3rd rounder at best,
So that could leave you with this years 10 and and 4th to convert to 3 inside 30

[older saint]

But then you're forgetting about Stevens, some rate him as high as mid 20's. Hopefully he's a 3rd rounder at best,
So that could leave you with this years 10 and and 4th to convert to 3 inside 30

Stevens is out of contract and is not being offered one from the dogs. I would expect a 4th round pick if they want it or even delisted free agent if Dogs don't want the pick and prefer cap space or upgrading a rookie?

[Devilhead]

Moorabbin Ghost

I'll follow stavro#4 lead and second everything he said. There's some really good people in here but the minority have wrecked it unfortunately. Some say if we put information out there that doesn't come true we deserve a whack, and that's fair enough. The issue is when campaigners get arrogant or nasty like a couple did a week or so back. I don't deserve to put up with that crap. If you don't believe me or don't like me that's fine, just ignore what I have to say.

Things getting very interesting for Saints now, the O'Meara deal holding up our Steele deal. We will go one of two very different ways here...
A well loved player is a chance to go...
Don't get too attached to Pick 10.
We will come out of this trade period very, very nicel

More for the puzzle

Hmmm very interesting

Could it be that we might get involved with the GC / Hawks O'Meara stand off and that a mega 4 club (GC GWS Hawks and us) trade deal is brewing?

Could that well loved player be Armo and that he might be headed to GC and that 10 is involved as well and we get Steele and some kick arse picks coming back

Armo and 10 out - Steele and a low top 10 pick or 2 top 20 picks?

[Playon]

But then you're forgetting about Stevens, some rate him as high as mid 20's. Hopefully he's a 3rd rounder at best,
So that could leave you with this years 10 and and 4th to convert to 3 inside 30

Stevens is out of contract and is not being offered one from the dogs. I would expect a 4th round pick if they want it or even delisted free agent if Dogs don't want the pick and prefer cap space or upgrading a rookie?

Cant confirm but heard he was offered a contract which would rule him out

[Myron Gaines]

Stevens should be an easy transaction. Dogs get Cloke, we get Stevens, Pies get pick 68.

[Rosco]

Koby in covers Armo out somewhat...

[Playon]

Hmmm very interesting

Could it be that we might get involved with the GC / Hawks O'Meara stand off and that a mega 4 club (GC GWS Hawks and us) trade deal is brewing?

Could that well loved player be Armo and that he might be headed to GC and that 10 is involved as well and we get Steele and some kick arse picks coming back

Armo and 10 out - Steele and a low top 10 pick or 2 top 20 picks?

Yep sounds like were flashing our 10 card in front of the Hawks faces But I have no idea what can be done there

[older saint]

interesting with where we sit as a club.
Armo has been thrown up to GC for a top 10 pick.
As a team which finished 9th and is looking to build the mid field for a run in the next few years can we afford t close arms for a player who may be a gun in 4 years time, but may not be? Especially it appears with our salary cap bonus we have accrued that in 2017 we will be playing in the free agent market with Fyfe, Martin, Henney and others potentially available.
Many men smarter than me making these decisions but concerned giving up a key mid at this point in clubs push forward.

[Myron Gaines]

interesting with where we sit as a club.
Armo has been thrown up to GC for a top 10 pick.
As a team which finished 9th and is looking to build the mid field for a run in the next few years can we afford t close arms for a player who may be a gun in 4 years time, but may not be? Especially it appears with our salary cap bonus we have accrued that in 2017 we will be playing in the free agent market with Fyfe, Martin, Henney and others potentially available.
Many men smarter than me making these decisions but concerned giving up a key mid at this point in clubs push forward.

Armo for a top 10 pick? Where'd you hear that?

[ace]

Stevens should be an easy transaction. Dogs get Cloke, we get Stevens, Pies get pick 68.

The dogs know Collingwood has to delist Cloke unless he is traded.
That means his value as a trade is zero.
The dogs will offer Collingwood a peppercorn pick, otherwise the dogs collect him at the pre-season draft.
Eddie will throw a tantrum claiming the Bulldogs are being unreasonable to which the whole football world will shout "Luke Ball".

[The_President]

Something very big is around the corner. Jaxons and Tony very, very quiet. Strap yourselves in.

[ace]

Hmmm very interesting

Could it be that we might get involved with the GC / Hawks O'Meara stand off and that a mega 4 club (GC GWS Hawks and us) trade deal is brewing?

Could that well loved player be Armo and that he might be headed to GC and that 10 is involved as well and we get Steele and some kick arse picks coming back

Armo and 10 out - Steele and a low top 10 pick or 2 top 20 picks?

Yep sounds like were flashing our 10 card in front of the Hawks faces But I have no idea what can be done there

Hawthorn have only flashed pick 14 in front of Sydney for Mitchell Mk2.
Sydney have agreed in principle BUT
Pick 10 is more juicy.
Keep flashing that in front of Sydney.

[st.rick]

interesting with where we sit as a club.
Armo has been thrown up to GC for a top 10 pick.
As a team which finished 9th and is looking to build the mid field for a run in the next few years can we afford t close arms for a player who may be a gun in 4 years time, but may not be? Especially it appears with our salary cap bonus we have accrued that in 2017 we will be playing in the free agent market with Fyfe, Martin, Henney and others potentially available.
Many men smarter than me making these decisions but concerned giving up a key mid at this point in clubs push forward.

Armo for a top 10 pick? Where'd you hear that?

On here I think!
Same people keep throwing Armo's name up as trade bait.
I wouldn't havea clue myself, but would be very very suprised if he has been offered up to anyone.

[St Ick]

With all these mids we have and adding Steele and Stevens... it makes me wonder f we have already come to an agreement with Fyfe that he'll come across as a FA next trade period and we basically are treating 2017 as an audition for who joins him in the midfield from 2018 to 2020

You may well be onto somthing there.

The concern though is that a LOT can happen in 12 hours let alone 12 months.

Last year there were fans saying Hurley is better than Carlisle so we were being foolish for trading for Jake when Hurls could be had for nothing as a free agent the following year.

Same happened with Weller last year who promptly signed a contract extension after a few ppl said all good we will be trading him when ooc this year.

I'd love to dream for Fyfe, but its a ridiculously long way away for us to even consider.

[older saint]

meant to read by GC not to . Don't believe StKilda made offer .
like much stuff on here , heard from someone.....

[Devilhead]

interesting with where we sit as a club.
Armo has been thrown up to GC for a top 10 pick.
As a team which finished 9th and is looking to build the mid field for a run in the next few years can we afford t close arms for a player who may be a gun in 4 years time, but may not be? Especially it appears with our salary cap bonus we have accrued that in 2017 we will be playing in the free agent market with Fyfe, Martin, Henney and others potentially available.
Many men smarter than me making these decisions but concerned giving up a key mid at this point in clubs push forward.

Armo for a top 10 pick? Where'd you hear that?

On here I think!
Same people keep throwing Armo's name up as trade bait.
I wouldn't havea clue myself, but would be very very suprised if he has been offered up to anyone.

Moorabbin Ghost a respected ITK on Bigfooty said that " a well loved player is a chance to go"

We are now just speculating that the player could be Armo as he also said the Steele trade is being held up by the O'Meara trade which of course involves Gold Coast which Armo has been linked to

We are all just guessing at the moment - interesting update either way

[saintsRrising]

iEspecially it appears with our salary cap bonus we have accrued that in 2017 we will be playing in the free agent market with Fyfe, Martin, Henney and others potentially available.
.

Heeney cannot be a FA in 2017 though.

Swans would not delist either without offeringa contract and so will not bea DFA either.

Only way to get him would be to trade, and so there is no leverage. So much better to target a star FA.

[Myron Gaines]

The Steele trade has nothing to do with the omeara trade. Steele for 2017 2nd round pick is close to being agreed to.

[The_President]

Something very big is around the corner. Jaxons and Tony very, very quiet. Strap yourselves in.

[BackFromUSA]

Something very big is around the corner. Jaxons and Tony very, very quiet. Strap yourselves in.

Or no news to share?

Looks likely to be:

Steele for next years 2nd round
Stevens for this years 3rd or 4th round or DFA or pre-season

10 would only be used if could either
- split into two picks - a mid teen and a 20s (unlikely now)
- or Tom Mitchell (could involve a running half back being thrown in as Sydney need those to trump Hawks)

[chook23]

Something very big is around the corner. Jaxons and Tony very, very quiet. Strap yourselves in.

You guessing there maybe.

[st.rick]

Eli , shents and Bull for essendons first pick



I better wake up now.

[Devilhead]

The Steele trade has nothing to do with the omeara trade. Steele for 2017 2nd round pick is close to being agreed to.

Interesting then that MG said that the O'Meara deal holding up our Steele deal - why would it if we are dealing straight with GWS? Unless GWS is involved with the O'Meara deal?

[Myron Gaines]

The Steele trade has nothing to do with the omeara trade. Steele for 2017 2nd round pick is close to being agreed to.

Interesting then that MG said that the O'Meara deal holding up our Steele deal - why would it if we are dealing straight with GWS? Unless GWS is involved with the O'Meara deal?

I'd say he got that call wrong.