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Myron Gaines wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Billings and pick 10 would not even be close to getting Fyfe alone - let alone Weller as well.

Fyfe is worth two x top 5 picks on his own.

Weller is worth around a pick ~10 - similar to Billings.

So essentially MG is saying pick 10 for Fyfe which is dead set laughable.

PS I love MG& SMS and their trade knowledge is generally top notch but this is just really pie in the sky. A long way off reality.
What about if we threw in Jason Holmes or Cameron Shenton?

Ps I was having a bit of a laugh & humouring SMS, I realise my trade suggestion was s*** house!
Would get it done :D


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Hey Jaxons only Billings and Longer mentioned here so you've potted one of them. Billings attitude?


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
Playon wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Billings and pick 10 would not even be close to getting Fyfe alone - let alone Weller as well.

Fyfe is worth two x top 5 picks on his own.

Weller is worth around a pick ~10 - similar to Billings.

So essentially MG & SMS are saying pick 10 for Fyfe which is dead set laughable.

PS I love MG& SMS and their trade knowledge is generally top notch but this is just really pie in the sky. A long way off reality.

I am all for wild speculation but can we at least keep it vaguely plausible?

Next we will be trading Brodie Murdoch straight swap for Dustin Martin.
Fyfe is worth no picks next year and neither is Fusty.. Well on contact watch
Doesn't alter their current market value one iota. Fyfe is currently worth two top 5 picks. Dustin is worth a top 5 pick.
Yes it does if we wait a year


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
Playon wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Billings and pick 10 would not even be close to getting Fyfe alone - let alone Weller as well.

Fyfe is worth two x top 5 picks on his own.

Weller is worth around a pick ~10 - similar to Billings.

So essentially MG & SMS are saying pick 10 for Fyfe which is dead set laughable.

PS I love MG& SMS and their trade knowledge is generally top notch but this is just really pie in the sky. A long way off reality.

I am all for wild speculation but can we at least keep it vaguely plausible?

Next we will be trading Brodie Murdoch straight swap for Dustin Martin.
Fyfe is worth no picks next year and neither is Fusty.. Well on contact watch
Doesn't alter their current market value one iota. Fyfe is currently worth two top 5 picks. Dustin is worth a top 5 pick.
Yes it does if we wait a year
Yes. If we get to the end of 2017 and they are still UC we can re-assess. Big 'if' though. Also 16 other clubs will be interested.


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jaxons wrote:
takeaway wrote:Fyfe post injury, Weller, for Longer, Billings & Eli??? No thanks.
Let me get this straight takeaway you wouldn't do this 'fantasy' trade?
That's even funnier than the fantasy!

Correct. I don't think Fyfe will be the same player again, and he is hard work to manage.

I value Longer above Hickey, especially as he matures as a ruckman and person. Billings will be 250 game player and a gun.

I agree the trade is a fantasy, just someone craving attention.

I respect all you ITK info Jaxons. You give info as you hear it.


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Knowing Ross this is what Freo would expect in return for both of these players and I am living in the real world.

Weller - Either a top 8 pick or a straight player swap of P Mccarten - this is not going to happen.

Fyfe - 2 x top 12 picks plus a player such as Blake Acres - also not going to happen.

So collectively we could get Fyfe and Weller but cost would be Mccarten and Acres plus 2 first round draft picks.

None of this post is real and would be agreed on by us or has been discussed and it will never happen period.


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jaxons wrote:Knowing Ross this is what Freo would expect in return for both of these players and I am living in the real world.

Weller - Either a top 8 pick or a straight player swap of P Mccarten - this is not going to happen.

Fyfe - 2 x top 12 picks plus a player such as Blake Acres - also not going to happen.

So collectively we could get Fyfe and Weller but cost would be Mccarten and Acres plus 2 first round draft picks.

None of this post is real and would be agreed on by us or has been discussed and it will never happen period.
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takeaway wrote:
jaxons wrote:
takeaway wrote:Fyfe post injury, Weller, for Longer, Billings & Eli??? No thanks.
Let me get this straight takeaway you wouldn't do this 'fantasy' trade?
That's even funnier than the fantasy!

Correct. I don't think Fyfe will be the same player again, and he is hard work to manage.

I value Longer above Hickey, especially as he matures as a ruckman and person. Billings will be 250 game player and a gun.

I agree the trade is a fantasy, just someone craving attention.

I respect all you ITK info Jaxons. You give info as you hear it.
Hickey miles in front of Longer both on and off the field.
Billings is a long way short of the potential he showed as a junior.


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jaxons wrote:
takeaway wrote:
jaxons wrote:
takeaway wrote:Fyfe post injury, Weller, for Longer, Billings & Eli??? No thanks.
Let me get this straight takeaway you wouldn't do this 'fantasy' trade?
That's even funnier than the fantasy!

Correct. I don't think Fyfe will be the same player again, and he is hard work to manage.

I value Longer above Hickey, especially as he matures as a ruckman and person. Billings will be 250 game player and a gun.

I agree the trade is a fantasy, just someone craving attention.

I respect all you ITK info Jaxons. You give info as you hear it.
Hickey miles in front of Longer both on and off the field.
Billings is a long way short of the potential he showed as a junior.
Don't want to get into the Hickey Longer debate, but potential is the operative word - and I think both Longer & Billings have a huge upside.
Anyway, not happening anyway.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
Playon wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
Playon wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Billings and pick 10 would not even be close to getting Fyfe alone - let alone Weller as well.

Fyfe is worth two x top 5 picks on his own.

Weller is worth around a pick ~10 - similar to Billings.

So essentially MG & SMS are saying pick 10 for Fyfe which is dead set laughable.

PS I love MG& SMS and their trade knowledge is generally top notch but this is just really pie in the sky. A long way off reality.

I am all for wild speculation but can we at least keep it vaguely plausible?

Next we will be trading Brodie Murdoch straight swap for Dustin Martin.
Fyfe is worth no picks next year and neither is Fusty.. Well on contact watch
Doesn't alter their current market value one iota. Fyfe is currently worth two top 5 picks. Dustin is worth a top 5 pick.
Yes it does if we wait a year
Yes. If we get to the end of 2017 and they are still UC we can re-assess. Big 'if' though. Also 16 other clubs will be interested.
Well if we want him we can put out the mother of all bids with our war chest, But then do we want him THAT much
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takeaway wrote:
jaxons wrote:
takeaway wrote:
jaxons wrote:
takeaway wrote:Fyfe post injury, Weller, for Longer, Billings & Eli??? No thanks.
Let me get this straight takeaway you wouldn't do this 'fantasy' trade?
That's even funnier than the fantasy!

Correct. I don't think Fyfe will be the same player again, and he is hard work to manage.

I value Longer above Hickey, especially as he matures as a ruckman and person. Billings will be 250 game player and a gun.

I agree the trade is a fantasy, just someone craving attention.

I respect all you ITK info Jaxons. You give info as you hear it.
Hickey miles in front of Longer both on and off the field.
Billings is a long way short of the potential he showed as a junior.
Don't want to get into the Hickey Longer debate, but potential is the operative word - and I think both Longer & Billings have a huge upside.
Anyway, not happening anyway.
Might not be a debate soon who knows!


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Fyfe is out of contract. Has no obligation to fremantle. Thats the last ill add. I expect huge apologies when this eventuates.
Fyfe wants to be a star as in afl in melbourne star.
He and freo have fallen out. He dont care what they get in return.
See you in a month


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SMS wrote:Fyfe is out of contract. Has no obligation to fremantle. Thats the last ill add. I expect huge apologies when this eventuates.
Fyfe wants to be a star as in afl in melbourne star.
He and freo have fallen out. He dont care what they get in return.
See you in a month
He's out of contract next year.

I'll give you some cred with regards to Eli & Longer. Both are very good chances to be traded....just not involved in your Fyfe scenario.


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SMS wrote:Fyfe is out of contract. Has no obligation to fremantle. Thats the last ill add. I expect huge apologies when this eventuates.
Fyfe wants to be a star as in afl in melbourne star.
He and freo have fallen out. He dont care what they get in return.
See you in a month
Fyfe is contracted to the end of next year doofus

I think a month is too short


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Nathan Brown jax?


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SMS wrote:Fyfe is out of contract. Has no obligation to fremantle. Thats the last ill add. I expect huge apologies when this eventuates.
Fyfe wants to be a star as in afl in melbourne star.
He and freo have fallen out. He dont care what they get in return.
See you in a month
I will do more than apologise if this happens.
Will you acknowledge you are miles off reality when none of this eventuates?


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satchmo wrote:I'd love to get Fyfe, as long as a time machine is included in the trade.
SMS has a time machine

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jaxons wrote:Hickey miles in front of Longer both on and off the field.
Billings is a long way short of the potential he showed as a junior.
I find this comment about Billings very disturbing. Obviously you know more than any on here, but he looked fantastic in his first year and has injury troubles the last two years. So we shouldn't be expecting a breakout year when he gets fully fit?


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saint-stu wrote:
jaxons wrote:Hickey miles in front of Longer both on and off the field.
Billings is a long way short of the potential he showed as a junior.
I find this comment about Billings very disturbing. Obviously you know more than any on here, but he looked fantastic in his first year and has injury troubles the last two years. So we shouldn't be expecting a breakout year when he gets fully fit?
agree with this post...what should be expect from Jack?
Longer needs to get off the darts and become a professional footballer if he wants to be as good as Hickey....I am assuming he will be traded...are you softening us up for a Billings trade Jaxons?
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We can't lure Laverde or Marchbank - or Steele it now seems. Yet somehow Fyfe, arguable the best player in the comp, is going to want to come to St Kilda. I reckon we could offer 1.5 million a year and he still wouldn't come.

There is always going to be the odd exception- like Carlisle - but 19 times out of 20, an established player is not going to choose St Kilda until we have sustained success .


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Darth Vader wrote:Hey Jaxons only Billings and Longer mentioned here so you've potted one of them. Billings attitude?
He said Hickey is way ahead of Longer outside of football


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Zed wrote:We can't lure Laverde or Marchbank - or Steele it now seems. Yet somehow Fyfe, arguable the best player in the comp, is going to want to come to St Kilda. I reckon we could offer 1.5 million a year and he still wouldn't come.

There is always going to be the odd exception- like Carlisle - but 19 times out of 20, an established player is not going to choose St Kilda until we have sustained success .
steele is coming to the saints


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The Recruit wrote:
Zed wrote:We can't lure Laverde or Marchbank - or Steele it now seems. Yet somehow Fyfe, arguable the best player in the comp, is going to want to come to St Kilda. I reckon we could offer 1.5 million a year and he still wouldn't come.

There is always going to be the odd exception- like Carlisle - but 19 times out of 20, an established player is not going to choose St Kilda until we have sustained success .
steele is coming to the saints
Also very confident on this.


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magnifisaint wrote:
Darth Vader wrote:Hey Jaxons only Billings and Longer mentioned here so you've potted one of them. Billings attitude?
He said Hickey is way ahead of Longer outside of football
He said it well after I posted my question.


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is he any good?


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