Selwood legacy there for all to see

[6621104]

The high free kicks staging is becoming a blight on the game - some of the dogs players are shockers but it is paying off! I suspect we will all end up having to coach our players to do it but at what cost? The game is changing and pretty soon we will have players doing it constantly. The league must step in - if you contribute to the high tackle it should be play on!!!

[st.byron]

The high free kicks staging is becoming a blight on the game - some of the dogs players are shockers but it is paying off! I suspect we will all end up having to coach our players to do it but at what cost? The game is changing and pretty soon we will have players doing it constantly. The league must step in - if you contribute to the high tackle it should be play on!!!

My least favourite player - Selwood. Ducks and when it doesn't go his way, whinges. Constantly whinging at stoppages. Very pleased to see them smashed yesterday.

[Trev from the Bush]

Don't think being on the end of crude tackles is staging.

[whiskers3614]

The high free kicks staging is becoming a blight on the game - some of the dogs players are shockers but it is paying off! I suspect we will all end up having to coach our players to do it but at what cost? The game is changing and pretty soon we will have players doing it constantly. The league must step in - if you contribute to the high tackle it should be play on!!!

My least favourite player - Selwood. Ducks and when it doesn't go his way, whinges. Constantly whinging at stoppages. Very pleased to see them smashed yesterday.

Don't think Lindsay Thomas is a bit worse?

[st.byron]

The high free kicks staging is becoming a blight on the game - some of the dogs players are shockers but it is paying off! I suspect we will all end up having to coach our players to do it but at what cost? The game is changing and pretty soon we will have players doing it constantly. The league must step in - if you contribute to the high tackle it should be play on!!!

My least favourite player - Selwood. Ducks and when it doesn't go his way, whinges. Constantly whinging at stoppages. Very pleased to see them smashed yesterday.

Don't think Lindsay Thomas is a bit worse?

Selwood's not the lone ranger no doubt, but he started it and his attitude pisses me off. He whinges when things don't go his way.

[Wayne42]

The high free kicks staging is becoming a blight on the game - some of the dogs players are shockers but it is paying off! I suspect we will all end up having to coach our players to do it but at what cost? The game is changing and pretty soon we will have players doing it constantly. The league must step in - if you contribute to the high tackle it should be play on!!!

You can say that again

[Enrico_Misso]

Duckhead continually collapses his legs the moment he gets tackled so it slips high and he can claim a free kick.
He is a disgrace.
Plus he whinges at every stoppage for some imaginary free.
So pleased to see him and his prick of a coach out of the race.

[saints66]

he could have quite easily been a Saint. I wonder how those critical of his type of play would feel then. I know if we had the opportunity to select him we would have won a couple of premierships since then. Great leader no matter what you say.

[st.byron]

he could have quite easily been a Saint. I wonder how those critical of his type of play would feel then. I know if we had the opportunity to select him we would have won a couple of premierships since then. Great leader no matter what you say.

Still a twat. Can't stand him.

[whiskers3614]

he could have quite easily been a Saint. I wonder how those critical of his type of play would feel then. I know if we had the opportunity to select him we would have won a couple of premierships since then. Great leader no matter what you say.

quite right, didn't see too many on here complain when Milne used to try and draw high/in the back frees!
(not that he got many)

[saints66]

he could have quite easily been a Saint. I wonder how those critical of his type of play would feel then. I know if we had the opportunity to select him we would have won a couple of premierships since then. Great leader no matter what you say.

Still a twat. Can't stand him.

I suspect you cant stand him because he is a champion and does not play for us

[Moods]

he could have quite easily been a Saint. I wonder how those critical of his type of play would feel then. I know if we had the opportunity to select him we would have won a couple of premierships since then. Great leader no matter what you say.

Agree completely. He's a bit of a whinger, but that's his competitive nature. Absolute superstar who did eevrythinghe could to drag his team back into the contest last night. Nothing but admiration.

[supersaints]

Toby McClean from the dogs has Selwood covered by miles... He has perfected it ...don't like it myself I think I'd be a bit embarrassed at the game

[Freebird]

Hunter is continually attacking the ball lifting his arm and turning so the tackle slip up on the shoulder.

[st.byron]

he could have quite easily been a Saint. I wonder how those critical of his type of play would feel then. I know if we had the opportunity to select him we would have won a couple of premierships since then. Great leader no matter what you say.

Still a twat. Can't stand him.

I suspect you cant stand him because he is a champion and does not play for us

Nope it's not that. There are plenty playing for other clubs that I admire and respect.
What I don't like about him is his "entitled" attitude.

You could see it after our 3 point win over them this year. Whinging to the umps after the game. When things don't go his way in tight he whinges. He's constantly whinging with a sour little pout instead of just getting on with it. Acts like he's entitled to special treatment.
I just don't like that about him. Not questioning his quality as a player.

[6621104]

Facts are that Selwood now has the most free kicks of any player. just passed Scott west, in 100 fewer games. Scott West was a warrior, tough, in and under and in no way less a ball player or less hard at it than Selwood. The difference is in the Selwood shrug, it is such a statistical improbability that it is changing the game. Less strong players drop their knees to the same effect, I expect to see the rot spread next season unless there is sufficient outcry. It is not crude tackling technique that causes the high tackles, it is players sucking the umps in! And thei umpire apologists that see no problem. Look at soccer, all the flopping and diving makes the game a joke. Do we want this.

[saints66]

he could have quite easily been a Saint. I wonder how those critical of his type of play would feel then. I know if we had the opportunity to select him we would have won a couple of premierships since then. Great leader no matter what you say.

Still a twat. Can't stand him.

I suspect you cant stand him because he is a champion and does not play for us

Nope it's not that. There are plenty playing for other clubs that I admire and respect.
What I don't like about him is his "entitled" attitude.

You could see it after our 3 point win over them this year. Whinging to the umps after the game. When things don't go his way in tight he whinges. He's constantly whinging with a sour little pout instead of just getting on with it. Acts like he's entitled to special treatment.
I just don't like that about him. Not questioning his quality as a player.

that is called competitiveness, hating to lose, being pissed off when you lose. We could have done with some of that in the last 10 years in fact we could have done with some of that over our history. I would suggest we have have had an inferiority complex over the years and have been satisfied with being close enough. No entitled attitude at StKilda just an timid acceptance that that is our lot in the league. When we get near we are satisfied and we know our place and we just climb straight back into it fearing that we will upset people who might call us entitled and arrogant. Selwood just wants to win and nothing is good enough except that. I wish we had players like him over he years instead of nice guys. who know their place.

[saints66]

Facts are that Selwood now has the most free kicks of any player. just passed Scott west, in 100 fewer games. Scott West was a warrior, tough, in and under and in no way less a ball player or less hard at it than Selwood. The difference is in the Selwood shrug, it is such a statistical improbability that it is changing the game. Less strong players drop their knees to the same effect, I expect to see the rot spread next season unless there is sufficient outcry. It is not crude tackling technique that causes the high tackles, it is players sucking the umps in! And thei umpire apologists that see no problem. Look at soccer, all the flopping and diving makes the game a joke. Do we want this.

Not sure if your opinion is shared by the hundred of millions of soccer fans around the world.

AFL football is starting to change and coaches are drilling their players to act accordingly. They dont coach their players to drop their knees, they coach their players to stand up in the tackle, to take the tackle and free their arms and get rid of the ball to one of their team mates. Selwood is one of the toughest players in the league and he plays the game hard. To suggest that he cheats is disparaging on a triple premiership player, all Australian and just sour grapes. We would have been a better club today if Geelong and Collingwood had passed on him and left him to us.

[st.byron]

that is called competitiveness, hating to lose, being pissed off when you lose. We could have done with some of that in the last 10 years in fact we could have done with some of that over our history. I would suggest we have have had an inferiority complex over the years and have been satisfied with being close enough. No entitled attitude at StKilda just an timid acceptance that that is our lot in the league. When we get near we are satisfied and we know our place and we just climb straight back into it fearing that we will upset people who might call us entitled and arrogant. Selwood just wants to win and nothing is good enough except that. I wish we had players like him over he years instead of nice guys. who know their place.

There's competitiveness and there's whinging. I reckon he's a whinger. Hird has/had a similar quality, as a player and coach. Super player, but when it doesn't go his way, he doesn't suck it up and get on with it. It's a weakness, not something to be admired.

[George27]

The high free kicks staging is becoming a blight on the game - some of the dogs players are shockers but it is paying off! I suspect we will all end up having to coach our players to do it but at what cost? The game is changing and pretty soon we will have players doing it constantly. The league must step in - if you contribute to the high tackle it should be play on!!!

I don't buy into the qualities or otherwise of Selwood, but I agree with the content of the OP above. Staging for frees has long been an issue . Kevin Bartlett was a shocker/star ( depending on your viewpoint) at drawing a holding-the man free. They changed the rule as a consequence. Luke Beveridge himself was a stager. However we have never been at the level of soccer.

This latest"trick " of dropping the knees and lifting the arm to force a high tackle is a shocker. Toby McLean is one of the main perpetrators , but the worst is Rhys Mathieson of Brisbane. I totally accept that others have a different view, but in my opinion the cynical diving and staging in soccer is blatant cheating and a terrible way to play a game. I was at the Storm game last night and saw three Canberra players hitting the deck to draw penalties . Fortunately it each instance the referee was into them and just told them to get on with it.

As with OP, I would like AFL umpires to be allowed to call play on - or even holding the ball- when a stager tries what McLean did last night.

[BigMart]

Selwood is a whinging C###!

[Jacks Back]

Facts are that Selwood now has the most free kicks of any player. just passed Scott west, in 100 fewer games. Scott West was a warrior, tough, in and under and in no way less a ball player or less hard at it than Selwood. The difference is in the Selwood shrug, it is such a statistical improbability that it is changing the game. Less strong players drop their knees to the same effect, I expect to see the rot spread next season unless there is sufficient outcry. It is not crude tackling technique that causes the high tackles, it is players sucking the umps in! And thei umpire apologists that see no problem. Look at soccer, all the flopping and diving makes the game a joke. Do we want this.

NO, I do not want this blight on the game.

If you lift your arm or drop your knees to initiate the high contact then you have initiated the high contact and it should be considered play on like when someone ducks into a tackle. If you've had prior and don't make an attempt to get rid of the ball then it is holding the ball.

Someone needs to stamp it out.

[gurubob101]

Tough skillful inspirational captain... and a pathetic cheat... Will be principally remembered for the damage he has done to the game.

[whiskers3614]

Tough skillful inspirational captain... and a pathetic cheat... Will be principally remembered for the damage he has done to the game.

Why blame him?
The rulemakers and umpires can wipe that element of the game out overnight!

[saints66]

would any of you be saying those things about Selwood if he was a three time premiership captain of St Kilda