Jaxons come on down

[magnifisaint]

Any truth that JOM refused to meet with St Kilda?

Not according BrianNotSpeaking. Apparently he was going to come to us at the end of last year

[ace]

Honestly guys can't you take the holiday snaps off to PM's?

My team isn't playing in the finals so there is not much left but holiday schnaps.
I can't even abuse the umpires for making my team lose.

[ace]

Any truth that JOM refused to meet with St Kilda?

Not according BrianNotSpeaking. Apparently he was going to come to us at the end of last year

If he refuses to meet with other clubs than Hawthorn and Essendon it is Luke Ball all over again.
Don't meet with other clubs, they will not be able to make a medical assessment, they will not try to deal with the Suns, he will not be forced elsewhere than his preferred choice.

He may want to go to Hawthorn for the glory of playing in grand finals but I doubt Hawthorn will offer anywhere near as much money as Essendon.
If Hawthorn fall out of the finals in straight sets he may take Essendon's money instead of Hawthorn's box.
If he goes on holidays without meeting with our club, he will be immediately crossed off our shopping list.

[ace]

Trading Pick 6 for Carlisle was a huge risk. I didn't like it at the time. However, the fact that we scored Gresham and Carlisle from it, means it was a win.

After all the academy, father-son, and free agent compensation queue jumping Carlisle and Gresham cost us pick 6 AND pick 29.

So far Nathan Freeman has cost us apparent pick 28 in 2016 but remember that apparent pick 24 we traded in the Carlisle deal ended up being pick 29.
It could well be Freeman only costs us this year's pick 33.
A far cry from what appeared in 2015 to be a low 20s.

[saynta]

Any truth that JOM refused to meet with St Kilda?

I wouldn't think so. We have already met with his management.

[Linton Lodger]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

[Linton Lodger]

I tell you what. If the Gold Coast only offered O'Meara a 2 year deal, it means they consider him a significant risk. Stay away Saints.

[Johnny Member]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

Seriously??

[ace]

I tell you what. If the Gold Coast only offered O'Meara a 2 year deal, it means they consider him a significant risk. Stay away Saints.

A two year deal - enough to say to the fans we wanted him to stay but enough to tell the star player we want you to leave.

Agreed, the Suns don't have confidence in his permanent recovery.

[ace]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

Compete with them, well we do have to play them.
But our window will not open until they are in decline and decline they probably will just like Brisbane.

[White Winmar]

I tell you what. If the Gold Coast only offered O'Meara a 2 year deal, it means they consider him a significant risk. Stay away Saints.

Exactly, LL. If he was the marquee player and GA Jnr replacement they claim he is, and his knee was no longer a concern, wouldn't you make him a "Godfather" offer? They know he's a massive risk, hence only two years. In racing parlance, "Prefer others".

[Con Gorozidis]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

Based on?

[Impatient Sainter]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

You are kidding arent you?

[Impatient Sainter]

I picked the Swan to win it this year - but the way GWS smashed them phyisically and with their outside run we are light years away from that. Losing Mumford was the stupidist move the Swans have made in the last 20 years....

[Impatient Sainter]

Any truth that JOM refused to meet with St Kilda?

Not according BrianNotSpeaking. Apparently he was going to come to us at the end of last year

Thank god he didnt!

[Linton Lodger]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

Compete with them, well we do have to play them.
But our window will not open until they are in decline and decline they probably will just like Brisbane.

Then you don't think our window will open for 7 or 8 years?

[ace]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

Compete with them, well we do have to play them.
But our window will not open until they are in decline and decline they probably will just like Brisbane.

Then you don't think our window will open for 7 or 8 years?

Sadly that is what the AFL has mandated.
Sydney is their growth market and they have rigged recruitment concessions to favour those two teams.

[st.byron]

I tell you what. If the Gold Coast only offered O'Meara a 2 year deal, it means they consider him a significant risk. Stay away Saints.

Exactly, LL. If he was the marquee player and GA Jnr replacement they claim he is, and his knee was no longer a concern, wouldn't you make him a "Godfather" offer? They know he's a massive risk, hence only two years. In racing parlance, "Prefer others".

Yep this. If he was really clearly good to go, they'd have five years on the table at $$$big.

[Devilhead]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

Based on?

If it bleeds it can be killed

[asiu]

If it bleeds it can be killed 

Yes.
thats about the only attitude we can take !

(but no good turning up to a gun fight with knives)

[ace]

If it bleeds it can be killed

Please don't kill our club Mr AFL man.
We can be very useful providing income to you through the TV rights deal with Sunday twilight games.
Who else can you get to make that sacrifice of their own income and membership in that pathetic time slot.

[saintsRrising]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

Compete with them, well we do have to play them.
But our window will not open until they are in decline and decline they probably will just like Brisbane.

Then you don't think our window will open for 7 or 8 years?

Our window will still open. The trouble with windows is that other teams can have them at the same time too! So GWS will be there too and hard to beat. But if you get into a GF anything can happen.

ie in 97 would the Crows have still beaten us if we had not lost Everitt and Vidovic, and then in GF week have Winmar's dad die and Loewe have the issue he had with his sister?

[ace]

If it bleeds it can be killed

Please don't kill our club Mr AFL man.
We can be very useful providing income to you through the TV rights deal with Sunday twilight games.
Who else can you get to make that sacrifice of their own income and memberships in that pathetic time slot.

[Johnny Member]

Having watched a chunk of the GWS vs Swans it is pretty hard to see how any team will be able to match for them for a while going forward. They are only going to get better for an extended period. This year may be the last non-GWS GF win fora while, and they may win this years. Any team can have an off day of course, but it is hard to not see that list from racking up the silverware.

Bottom 6? They don't have one. Just very good players that are still inexperienced or need to build their bodies still.
They already have more early draft picks locked in, and will get more in each year as they trade off excess players.
And then to rub salt in the wounds they get the option of topping up with any Academy players should any prove to be elite.

Our rebuild faces an enormous task to get past the GWS build, which already has the foundations to re-invigorate itself for many years.

We are not as far behind GWS as some might think, in fact I think we are building a list and game style that will enable us to compete with them.

Compete with them, well we do have to play them.
But our window will not open until they are in decline and decline they probably will just like Brisbane.

Then you don't think our window will open for 7 or 8 years?

Our window will still open. The troble with windows is that other teams can have them at the same time too! So GWS will be there too and hard to beat. But if you get into a GF anything can happen.

ie in 97 would the Crows have still beaten us if we had not lost Everitt and Vidovic, and then in GF week have Winmar's dad die and Loewe have the issue he had with his sister?

To be fair, Adelaide lost Modra and Riccuito.

[saintsRrising]

Our window will still open. The trouble with windows is that other teams can have them at the same time too! So GWS will be there too and hard to beat. But if you get into a GF anything can happen.

ie in 97 would the Crows have still beaten us if we had not lost Everitt and Vidovic, and then in GF week have Winmar's dad die and Loewe have the issue he had with his sister?

To be fair, Adelaide lost Modra and Riccuito.

Who was talking about being fair? I was just demonstrating that things can occur which can influence who can win on the day.