Billy Hartung

[Saint 58]

Hi Guys,

Just heard that young William is not happy at Hawthorn.
Apparently he will be telling the Hawks.
Playing reasonably well and in/out of the side.
If anyone knows someone at the club, maybe let them know ?
I would take him for sure if he was happy to cross to us.

My source is 110% accurate.

[loris]

Hi Guys,

Just heard that young William is not happy at Hawthorn.
Playing reasonably well and in/out of the side.
If anyone knows someone at the club, maybe let them know ?
I would take him for sure if he was happy to cross to us.

My source is 110% accurate.

I definitely don't know anything about if he is happy or not at the Hawks. However, I was thinking along the same lines Saint58. Gee Hartung is unlucky to be at the Hawks when they are so strong and they appear to have an abundance of players with his skills and can play his role. He must be getting a little frustrated wondering when he can cement a permanent place in their top 22. I'm sure there might be the temptation to ask his manager to look if other clubs are interested in him.

[sainters85]

Things is, we've already got gresham and lonie

[Saint 58]

Well he's definitely telling the club that he's not happy.
I would think they will try to convince him to stay.

[magnifisaint]

Hartung is full of it!

[Saint 58]

Hartung is full of it!

Full of what ?
Attitude ?

?

[magnifisaint]

Hartung is full of it!

Full of what ?
Attitude ?

?

FIGJAM

[Saint 58]

Hartung is full of it!

Full of what ?
Attitude ?

?

FIGJAM

And you believe this because ?
(I've seen him interviewed briefly on TV once)

[magnifisaint]

Hartung is full of it!

Full of what ?
Attitude ?

?

FIGJAM

And you believe this because ?
(I've seen him interviewed briefly on TV once)

One of the reasons a lot of clubs passed on him

[Saint 58]

OK ... fair enough
I get the opportunity to talk to him occasionally and he doesn't come across like that

[saintsRrising]

Hi Guys,

Just heard that young William is not happy at Hawthorn.
Apparently he will be telling the Hawks.
Playing reasonably well and in/out of the side.
If anyone knows someone at the club, maybe let them know ?
.

No need.

If Hartung wants to leave his manager would be shopping him around to all the suitable AFL teams. And indeed if Hartung's manager is any good he would do this before telling the Hawks just in case there is minimal interest in acquiring his services.

[Waltzing St Kilda]

We passed on him first time round because of attitude issues.

[BigMart]

Incorrect

We rated Acres higher

Billy was very much on our radar and right in the mix as our second round selection

[takeaway]

Hatung>>>>Lonie

[Con Gorozidis]

Send pick ten to the hawks for hartung and pick 16. Send pick 16 to gws for steele and gws pick 35.
Send longer somewhere for a pick in the twenties.
So we get steele and hartung. Then we hit the draft for three kids with a pick in the 20s 30s and 40s.
No need to use any later picks. Just package them up and sell them off.

[The Recruit]

Reading between the lines here Saint58 knows hartung personally and knows he wants more time as a midfielder and is not happy with the direction of hawthorn in 2017 which is stick with the old blokes and bring in another small midfielder that plays his position - Mitchell.

Hartung could definitely play as a midfield rotation and would be an asset to our team. If he want's to come to the saints....does he saint 58?....then we should try to get him...he can play but its just wat do we need to give up.

Just love hearing the 'professional' 'amazing culture' hawks are having player issues.....its about time they came back to the pack

[Richter]

Hartung could fetch up to $450k per season on a 4 year deal at Tigerland.

[Saint 58]

Reading between the lines here Saint58 knows hartung personally and knows he wants more time as a midfielder and is not happy with the direction of hawthorn in 2017 which is stick with the old blokes and bring in another small midfielder that plays his position - Mitchell.

Hartung could definitely play as a midfield rotation and would be an asset to our team. If he want's to come to the saints....does he saint 58?....then we should try to get him...he can play but its just wat do we need to give up.

Just love hearing the 'professional' 'amazing culture' hawks are having player issues.....its about time they came back to the pack

I do know him, but more so his girlfriend's family.
He said he's not happy about being in/out of the team, he wants to leave and wants a change.
I didn't ask where he wanted to go but if a destination is mentioned I'll post it.

[supersaints]

But they are supposed to be a "happy team at Hawthorn" They sing it more weeks than not.

[manoffewwords]

Incorrect

We rated Acres higher

Billy was very much on our radar and right in the mix as our second round selection

Incorrect.

Port Adelaide has some extra testing done in the psyc area and found he was unsuitable for them.
That was on top of other poor testing results.
Saints were very keen on him and then Richo was appointed and used his knowledge from the Port Adelaide process to over rule.

Stay away from Billy.

[SuperDuper]

Incorrect

We rated Acres higher

Billy was very much on our radar and right in the mix as our second round selection

Incorrect.

Port Adelaide has some extra testing done in the psyc area and found he was unsuitable for them.
That was on top of other poor testing results.
Saints were very keen on him and then Richo was appointed and used his knowledge from the Port Adelaide process to over rule.

Stay away from Billy.

we did rate Acres higher... we just thought he would be taken by one of the WA teams.
As for psyc tests... they are meaningless.. just no basis to them... modern mythology

[White Winmar]

And your qualifications, SuperDuper, to say that are? I take it you have a considerable amount of knowledge and experience in developing, analysing and researching personality tests. Which tests are "modern mythology"? Not all psychological tests relate to personality, which I presume you are referring to. What about psychological testing that relates to "hard" scientific processes and empirical evidence such as motor skills, comprehension, attentional processes, reaction times etc.? Are they all rubbish as well. What of the body of research and results going back 100 years, showing the scientifically proven validity of psychological testing? There's quite a few scientists out there who would be willing to educate you on the matter. Perhaps you should take a few tests yourself. I did Psych. testing for the saints and the AFL for 14 years. I even developed a specific test for JB to use in his assessment of potential recruit. We introduced testing at the 1997 draft camp. Do you really think if these tests were meaningless, the clubs would spend many hours and vast amounts of resources on them. Would they trust the results if they weren't proven to be correct, historically? There have been plenty of examples where we've predicted problems in the behaviour in a potential recruit, which have over time been shown to be accurate. It also works in reverse. Leaders and "solid citizens" have also been identified. Give Bevo and trout a call. I'm sure they'll be interested in your views and they might educate you. They might also put you on the payroll, given your deep and insightful analysis of the subject. I acknowledge that some personality tests are no more valid than horoscopes, but the ones our club use have been validated through the most rigorous scientific processes.

[Bluthy]

Hartung is full of it!

Full of what ?
Attitude ?

?

FIGJAM

Yeah because those cocky arrogant players like Buddy, Carey, Johnson are such spuds

[BigMart]

I know we were interested in Billy Hartung. If Acres was taken, and one other... He'd be a saint

We certainly would have taken him third round

[minneapolis]

Incorrect

We rated Acres higher

Billy was very much on our radar and right in the mix as our second round selection

Incorrect.

Port Adelaide has some extra testing done in the psyc area and found he was unsuitable for them.
That was on top of other poor testing results.
Saints were very keen on him and then Richo was appointed and used his knowledge from the Port Adelaide process to over rule.

Stay away from Billy.

we did rate Acres higher... we just thought he would be taken by one of the WA teams.
As for psyc tests... they are meaningless.. just no basis to them... modern mythology

Bull. Here is a perfect example of a test coming true. The kid is immature and selfish. As shown by his choices. He is walking out of a very successful club to go to a basket case. With no hope of the ultimate prize. I can predict the future. 5 years after he retires he will be broke and whining that the AFL did not do enough for him and other past players.