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jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:Can also tell you Fisher will be removed from senior list but perhaps rookied back for next year similar to what we did with Schneider in 2015 as back up if required.
Depends on what we accomplish during trade and draft.
He is aware of this already so happy to share.
That's old news mate, but thanks anyways!!!!!
Not sure how old it is given he was told last week and we haven't made it public yet.
Was mentioned on this forum a few says ago mate, plus pretty obvious once we missed on Hurl's chief!!!!!
We were never getting Hurley either.
Despite him exploring via his manager he wanted huge money and Essendon wanted Jack Steven plus.....
Never reached the stage of serious discussions.
Did we meet with Hurley jaxons?


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What will be of some interest with Freeman is do they consider him for the VFL Final this weekend?

Or do they take the 7 consecutive weeks of running onto a park as sufficient and manage him to a full pre season campaign with a view to Round 1 in 2017?

Remember he is a top 10 Draft Pick so has the tools - and given our interest in him I would speculate that there was a call between Billings and Freeman when we took Billings at Number 3 - followed by Dunstan and Acres at where they fell.

So the skills of Dunstan and Acres speak to the very high calibre of that Draft noting that both Dunstan and Acres (allowing for injury and the discontinued Sub rule which did not work to his favor but he immediately showed sublime reefing possession winning and disposal skills from the start, announcing himself as something else) showed their credentials immediately on their introduction to AFL football.

So what we have is Billings, Freeman, Dunstan and Acres all in the top 20 in what was a very high class year.


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Saintly Passion wrote:
jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:Can also tell you Fisher will be removed from senior list but perhaps rookied back for next year similar to what we did with Schneider in 2015 as back up if required.
Depends on what we accomplish during trade and draft.
He is aware of this already so happy to share.
That's old news mate, but thanks anyways!!!!!
Not sure how old it is given he was told last week and we haven't made it public yet.
Was mentioned on this forum a few says ago mate, plus pretty obvious once we missed on Hurl's chief!!!!!
We were never getting Hurley either.
Despite him exploring via his manager he wanted huge money and Essendon wanted Jack Steven plus.....
Never reached the stage of serious discussions.
Did we meet with Hurley jaxons?
Given that Hurley was in Europe for months I highly doubt it.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
Saintly Passion wrote:
jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:Can also tell you Fisher will be removed from senior list but perhaps rookied back for next year similar to what we did with Schneider in 2015 as back up if required.
Depends on what we accomplish during trade and draft.
He is aware of this already so happy to share.
That's old news mate, but thanks anyways!!!!!
Not sure how old it is given he was told last week and we haven't made it public yet.
Was mentioned on this forum a few says ago mate, plus pretty obvious once we missed on Hurl's chief!!!!!
We were never getting Hurley either.
Despite him exploring via his manager he wanted huge money and Essendon wanted Jack Steven plus.....
Never reached the stage of serious discussions.
Did we meet with Hurley jaxons?
Given that Hurley was in Europe for months I highly doubt it.
Some suggestion he met clubs before going Con - Bulldogs definitely


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Saintly Passion wrote:
jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:Can also tell you Fisher will be removed from senior list but perhaps rookied back for next year similar to what we did with Schneider in 2015 as back up if required.
Depends on what we accomplish during trade and draft.
He is aware of this already so happy to share.
That's old news mate, but thanks anyways!!!!!
Not sure how old it is given he was told last week and we haven't made it public yet.
Was mentioned on this forum a few says ago mate, plus pretty obvious once we missed on Hurl's chief!!!!!
We were never getting Hurley either.
Despite him exploring via his manager he wanted huge money and Essendon wanted Jack Steven plus.....
Never reached the stage of serious discussions.
Did we meet with Hurley jaxons?
Yes but not such a big deal.
Lots of meetings going on in AFL all the time between players and other clubs most of which amount to nothing.
Been going on for years.


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Post: # 1634509Post Linton Lodger »

Life Long Saint wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Thanks jaxons. Terrific report.
I also think we will be looking to trade out Longer or Holmes for a second rounder.
Hard to think of any team stupid enough to give up a 2nd round pick for Holmes. If there are any out there then the Saints should do the deal before the other team comes to its senses.
I don't know, Chris Scott has a fetish for ruckmen.


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jaxons wrote:
Saintly Passion wrote:
jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:Can also tell you Fisher will be removed from senior list but perhaps rookied back for next year similar to what we did with Schneider in 2015 as back up if required.
Depends on what we accomplish during trade and draft.
He is aware of this already so happy to share.
That's old news mate, but thanks anyways!!!!!
Not sure how old it is given he was told last week and we haven't made it public yet.
Was mentioned on this forum a few says ago mate, plus pretty obvious once we missed on Hurl's chief!!!!!
We were never getting Hurley either.
Despite him exploring via his manager he wanted huge money and Essendon wanted Jack Steven plus.....
Never reached the stage of serious discussions.
Did we meet with Hurley jaxons?
Yes but not such a big deal.
Lots of meetings going on in AFL all the time between players and other clubs most of which amount to nothing.
Been going on for years.
Him in person or his Mgr?
He wasnt even on the country so must have been via Skype.

Hurley was never leaving. If he met or spoke with with other clubs it was just to feel a little love and to sate his ego. Same for Heppell.
Stonecold assumes having a casual conversation with a player mgr (which means nothing) is the same as 'locked in'.


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Post: # 1634518Post stonecold »

StoneCold assumes nothing Con!!!!!

St.Kilda Football Club chased both Dyson and Hurl's, didn't get either, end of story!!!!!

Lock on Heppell, was a phrase I used, designed to attract the attention of the UN-informed such as yourself!!!!!

At one point in time, Hurl's was choosing between us and.Richmond, if he decided to leave
, which of cause he did not!!!!!!


'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!

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stonecold wrote:StoneCold assumes nothing Con!!!!!

St.Kilda Football Club chased both Dyson and Hurl's, didn't get either, end of story!!!!!

Lock on Heppell, was a phrase I used, designed to attract the attention of the UN-informed such as yourself!!!!!

At one point in time, Hurl's was choosing between us and.Richmond, if he decided to leave
, which of cause he did not!!!!!!
Righto SC, re O'Meara put your credibility to the test. WILL he or WILL he not be a Saints player?


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jaxons wrote:
saint-stu wrote:Surprised we would go for another player under injury cloud given what's happened with Freezer. Still hopeful he will come good but it hasn't been a good start.

On Freeman we knew he wouldn't play seniors this year and was wrecked when he arrived.
Don't forget we haven't paid for him yet!
He has played 7 weeks in a row albeit not all at VFL level.
Had 28 touches on the weekend and will enter into a full preseason later this year.
Everything was considered and was viewed as a risk worth taking.
Is 21 still at the start of 2017 season and long way to go before this is deemed a failure.
Agree, as previous posted re not playing Snr's this season, as previously stated club looking for him to be a regular snr playing by 2018, all going to plan!!!!!


'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!

We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!


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Post: # 1634523Post Mr Magic »

Myron Gaines wrote:
stonecold wrote:StoneCold assumes nothing Con!!!!!

St.Kilda Football Club chased both Dyson and Hurl's, didn't get either, end of story!!!!!

Lock on Heppell, was a phrase I used, designed to attract the attention of the UN-informed such as yourself!!!!!

At one point in time, Hurl's was choosing between us and.Richmond, if he decided to leave
, which of cause he did not!!!!!!
Righto SC, re O'Meara put your credibility to the test. WILL he or WILL he not be a Saints player?
According to the Orifice (Damien Barrett) on FC last night we are 1 of 4 Clubs 'in the mix' for him - Carlton, Collingwood, Richmond and us.


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Myron Gaines wrote:
stonecold wrote:StoneCold assumes nothing Con!!!!!

St.Kilda Football Club chased both Dyson and Hurl's, didn't get either, end of story!!!!!

Lock on Heppell, was a phrase I used, designed to attract the attention of the UN-informed such as yourself!!!!!

At one point in time, Hurl's was choosing between us and.Richmond, if he decided to leave
, which of cause he did not!!!!!!
Righto SC, re O'Meara put your credibility to the test. WILL he or WILL he not be a Saints player?
Too early to call, he may, but as everyone knows, Essendon now in the box seat, but the Powers that be (AFL), may have something to day about that too!!!!!

PS. WHAT CREDIBILITY?????


'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!

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stonecold wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:
stonecold wrote:StoneCold assumes nothing Con!!!!!

St.Kilda Football Club chased both Dyson and Hurl's, didn't get either, end of story!!!!!

Lock on Heppell, was a phrase I used, designed to attract the attention of the UN-informed such as yourself!!!!!

At one point in time, Hurl's was choosing between us and.Richmond, if he decided to leave
, which of cause he did not!!!!!!
Righto SC, re O'Meara put your credibility to the test. WILL he or WILL he not be a Saints player?
Too early to call, he may, but as everyone knows, Essendon now in the box seat, but the Powers that be (AFL), may have something to day about that too!!!!!

PS. WHAT CREDIBILITY?????
You don't really believe he's going to Ess via the pre season draft do you...? Won't happen.


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Why does anybody entertain what stone cold says re trading? It's just attention seeking waffle.


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Post: # 1634536Post Con Gorozidis »

stonecold wrote:StoneCold assumes nothing Con!!!!!

St.Kilda Football Club chased both Dyson and Hurl's, didn't get either, end of story!!!!!

Lock on Heppell, was a phrase I used, designed to attract the attention of the UN-informed such as yourself!!!!!

At one point in time, Hurl's was choosing between us and.Richmond, if he decided to leave
, which of cause he did not!!!!!!
I still dont think you quite get the reality.

'Chased' means we spoke to their managers along with the 16 other clubs.

Making a phone call to a player Mgr means nothing. All clubs can therefore be said to have 'chased' them under your definition.

They were never leaving. They were just determining their market value so they could go back to Essendon and ask for it.
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#gosaintas wrote:Why does anybody entertain what stone cold says re trading? It's just attention seeking waffle.
Your entitled to your opinion mate!!!!! But, contradicting your own statement!!!!!


'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!

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Let me tell you something brother! Before Stone Cold there was Hulkamania jack! And Hulkamania was running wild long before Stone Cold...dude! So wat cha gonna do!? When Hulkamania runssss wild on you!!!!!!!!


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SAAD wrote:Let me tell you something brother! Before Stone Cold there was Hulkamania jack! And Hulkamania was running wild long before Stone Cold...dude! So wat cha gonna do!? When Hulkamania runssss wild on you!!!!!!!!
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stonecold wrote:
#gosaintas wrote:Why does anybody entertain what stone cold says re trading? It's just attention seeking waffle.
Your entitled to your opinion mate!!!!! But, contradicting your own statement!!!!!
Stop referring to yourself in the third person
Stop reporting rumour as fact
Stop with the exclamation marks
Stop getting upset when people take the piss out of you when you get it wrong


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Hey jax any word yet on whether Holmes will be offered a contract?


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The_President wrote:
stonecold wrote:
#gosaintas wrote:Why does anybody entertain what stone cold says re trading? It's just attention seeking waffle.
Your entitled to your opinion mate!!!!! But, contradicting your own statement!!!!!
Stop referring to yourself in the third person
Stop reporting rumour as fact
Stop with the exclamation marks
Stop getting upset when people take the piss out of you when you get it wrong
Exclamation marks have been with StoneCold since the first forum and will stay!!!!!

Stop telling StoneCold what do!!!!!


'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!

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stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:
saint-stu wrote:Surprised we would go for another player under injury cloud given what's happened with Freezer. Still hopeful he will come good but it hasn't been a good start.

On Freeman we knew he wouldn't play seniors this year and was wrecked when he arrived.
Don't forget we haven't paid for him yet!
He has played 7 weeks in a row albeit not all at VFL level.
Had 28 touches on the weekend and will enter into a full preseason later this year.
Everything was considered and was viewed as a risk worth taking.
Is 21 still at the start of 2017 season and long way to go before this is deemed a failure.
Agree, as previous posted re not playing Snr's this season, as previously stated club looking for him to be a regular snr ing by 2play018, all going to plan!!!!!

[/color Paying $300k plus p.a in the hope that he is a regular senior AFL player in 2018
So we are paying for 3 years in the hope of maybe getting 1 years worth?
Would want to be a cross of Ablett, Judd and Fyfe in that one year for us to get value!


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whiskers3614 wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:
saint-stu wrote:Surprised we would go for another player under injury cloud given what's happened with Freezer. Still hopeful he will come good but it hasn't been a good start.

On Freeman we knew he wouldn't play seniors this year and was wrecked when he arrived.
Don't forget we haven't paid for him yet!
He has played 7 weeks in a row albeit not all at VFL level.
Had 28 touches on the weekend and will enter into a full preseason later this year.
Everything was considered and was viewed as a risk worth taking.
Is 21 still at the start of 2017 season and long way to go before this is deemed a failure.
Agree, as previous posted re not playing Snr's this season, as previously stated club looking for him to be a regular snr ing by 2play018, all going to plan!!!!!

[/color Paying $300k plus p.a in the hope that he is a regular senior AFL player in 2018
So we are paying for 3 years in the hope of maybe getting 1 years worth?
Would want to be a cross of Ablett, Judd and Fyfe in that one year for us to get value!



agree! does not make sense!!!


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Post: # 1634559Post Mr Magic »

MC Gusto wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:
saint-stu wrote:Surprised we would go for another player under injury cloud given what's happened with Freezer. Still hopeful he will come good but it hasn't been a good start.

On Freeman we knew he wouldn't play seniors this year and was wrecked when he arrived.
Don't forget we haven't paid for him yet!
He has played 7 weeks in a row albeit not all at VFL level.
Had 28 touches on the weekend and will enter into a full preseason later this year.
Everything was considered and was viewed as a risk worth taking.
Is 21 still at the start of 2017 season and long way to go before this is deemed a failure.
Agree, as previous posted re not playing Snr's this season, as previously stated club looking for him to be a regular snr ing by 2play018, all going to plan!!!!!

[/color Paying $300k plus p.a in the hope that he is a regular senior AFL player in 2018
So we are paying for 3 years in the hope of maybe getting 1 years worth?
Would want to be a cross of Ablett, Judd and Fyfe in that one year for us to get value!



agree! does not make sense!!!


If he comes good we'll be paying him a lot more than $300k p.a. for years 4, 5, 6 and beyond


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whiskers3614 wrote:
stonecold wrote:
jaxons wrote:
saint-stu wrote:Surprised we would go for another player under injury cloud given what's happened with Freezer. Still hopeful he will come good but it hasn't been a good start.

On Freeman we knew he wouldn't play seniors this year and was wrecked when he arrived.
Don't forget we haven't paid for him yet!
He has played 7 weeks in a row albeit not all at VFL level.
Had 28 touches on the weekend and will enter into a full preseason later this year.
Everything was considered and was viewed as a risk worth taking.
Is 21 still at the start of 2017 season and long way to go before this is deemed a failure.
Agree, as previous posted re not playing Snr's this season, as previously stated club looking for him to be a regular snr ing by 2play018, all going to plan!!!!!

[/color Paying $300k plus p.a in the hope that he is a regular senior AFL player in 2018
So we are paying for 3 years in the hope of maybe getting 1 years worth?
Would want to be a cross of Ablett, Judd and Fyfe in that one year for us to get value!

Oh FFS he's 21, it's not like he's going to retire in 2018!!! How long did Geelong wait for Menzel? 4 knee reco's later he is a gun


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