Is Jaeger Worth the Trouble?

[damienc]

A fair enough question under the circumstances.

Don't get me wrong. Would love to have him. Even prepared to risk his buggered knee. But certainly not at any cost.

The Suns are understandably pissed and want a very high price and because he is not a free agent they will not take into account his club of choice.

They don't want draft picks so they say. They want like for like. So a gun midfielder for a gun midfielder.

GC might soften their position but don't count on it. Essendon never did for Jake.

IMO it would be totally unacceptable for any of our emerging talent to be sacrificed on the altar of Jaeger.

So draft picks or pass for the Saints, I say.

[jaxons]

If he passes the medical emphatically then yes yes and yes.

[bigcarl]

I agree Not at the cost of any of our emerging players.

[White Winmar]

No.

[st.byron]

If he passes the medical emphatically then yes yes and yes.

Passes the medical......

Would that be the same medical that cleared him to return to footy in July, he played less than half a game and then needed more surgery?

Absolutely a massive no. Madness to entertain trading a high pick for him. Zero guarantee he'll ever be able to play another game, let alone return to his best.
Jaxons, I seriously hope you're thinking is not the same as the club. Why on earth is it worth taking the risk at a high price? Seems to me there's a lot of 'creative thinking' going on about JOM's capacity to play. Like wishful thinking without looking at the reality as it is.

[remboy]

Not unless he goes into the draft, is still there when our last pick rolls around and is prepared to sign a short term, performance based contract. Personally, I can't see all of that happening. Let someone us give up picks, players and $.

[saintbob]

Even though I've said no thanks previously, I reckon we'll make a big play for JOM because if right he's an absolute gun.



Possible trade options would be either Arnitage or Dustan and Lonie as steak knives.

[saintbob]

Even though I've said no thanks previously, I reckon we'll make a big play for JOM because if right he's an absolute gun.

I know he has just had another op on his knee, but its not unusual that players may need a quick clean up/out after such a major op.

Possible trade options would be either Arnitage or Dustan and Lonie as steak knives.

[saintspremiers]

Even though I've said no thanks previously, I reckon we'll make a big play for JOM because if right he's an absolute gun.



Possible trade options would be either Arnitage or Dustan and Lonie as steak knives.

Are you on drugs?

Trade out Armo - a proven player and even more drug effected saying Dunstan, who has 10+ years and is becoming a proven hard nut for someone that hasn't played for 2 years??

Fair dinkum, this Ice epidemic has hit Saintsational big time!

[saintbob]

Even though I've said no thanks previously, I reckon we'll make a big play for JOM because if right he's an absolute gun.



Possible trade options would be either Arnitage or Dustan and Lonie as steak knives.

Are you on drugs?

Trade out Armo - a proven player and even more drug effected saying Dunstan, who has 10+ years and is becoming a proven hard nut for someone that hasn't played for 2 years??

Fair dinkum, this Ice epidemic has hit Saintsational big time!

No I'm not on drugs, I just don't wear 2" thick rose coloured glasses like you. Which I'll be more than happy to shove up your f****** arse if you ever imply I'm on drugs again.

This is a forum where we can air our own opinions and I did nothing more than give mine which I won't back away from.

Armo and Dunstan play exactly the same role, and it's one of the reasons why we continually get smashed by good teams!!!

[BigMart]

No

[SaintPav]

He would have been the exact player we needed

[stkfc1]

He would have been the exact player we needed

And thats the kicker. "Would have been." Way to many questions on his longetivity. Suns saying they want two first rounders. So teams will be tempted to give away future picks. Next years draft is already being called another "Super draft". Best Top 20 for a while. Need to make sure we're not missing out on it.

[Con Gorozidis]

I am not sure if the question is whether he is worth the trouble. It is how would we realistically get him?
Can someone give me one realistic example of a trade that GC would accept?

And no Lee, Longer and pick 10 would not be acceptable. Not even close.

Even this year + next year first rounder wouldnt get it done (and even that would be a huge risk for us).

Armo plus pick 10 might be acceptable to them. High risk therel

[prwilkinson]

Even though I've said no thanks previously, I reckon we'll make a big play for JOM because if right he's an absolute gun.



Possible trade options would be either Arnitage or Dustan and Lonie as steak knives.

Are you on drugs?

Trade out Armo - a proven player and even more drug effected saying Dunstan, who has 10+ years and is becoming a proven hard nut for someone that hasn't played for 2 years??

Fair dinkum, this Ice epidemic has hit Saintsational big time!

lol

[BackFromUSA]

Wouldn't want to give up picks or players for him but money YES!

Tell him to nominate for the draft with $1.2 million on his first year contract, $800k second year, 400k third year and if he hasn't come good we are off the hook in our main challenging years of 2020 onwards. And 2019 only costing $400k.

Averages around $800k a season which is about right.

Not sure many clubs have $1.2m available in their cap except North now with 4 big salaries off their TPP.

Brisbane might have that room too but have been paying overs to keep their players there.

Another club may trump us this way but with dodgy knees, we are the best placed to take the risk as we will really threaten 2019.

If another club satisfied Gold Coast in a trade and JOM agrees then ok we miss out. I am ok with that.

[spert]

What players with multiple knee operations have come back to be champions a couple of years later? Might be a few, but I get the feeling JOM could get up to senior fitness, though I bet he would never be the player with the potential he had pre injury.

[mambo2706]

The Suns are understandably pissed and want a very high price and because he is not a free agent they will not take into account his club of choice.

Does a player have to accept the trade for it to go through or does he get no say at all?

[Con Gorozidis]

The Suns are understandably pissed and want a very high price and because he is not a free agent they will not take into account his club of choice.

Does a player have to accept the trade for it to go through or does he get no say at all?

That is a very good question. This is kind of an unwritten rule in the AFL that hasnt been fully tested in the Crts.....
JOM is out of contract but not eligible to be a FA. So there needs to be some quid pro quo. But this is a sort of gentlemanly arrangement.

For example what if Brisbane offered something to GC like Rockliff + pick 2. And GC said ok thats great but then JOM cracked it and refused to go.
That sort of scenario would be interesting.

[Sainter_Dad]

Technically - I believe - no say - but you would be a fool to offer a trade unless the player agrees.

[MC Gusto]

Freeman passed our medical right?!...

[mambo2706]

Thanks Con And Sainter Dad

[The_President]

"Hey Jaeger, you're cooked, but we've invested plenty in you. We're going to ask for two first rounders.. But we'll take one. You ask for a big contract so you can set yourself up for retirement. We both win"

[samoht]

If and only if we can get Freeman back and playing full on in the seniors for at least a season without recurrences, then and only then should we be looking at other risky prospects.
Jaeger could be a potential double whammy or we could suffer a triple whammy if we land Fyfe and he never gets himself right.

[Johnny Member]

What players with multiple knee operations have come back to be champions a couple of years later? Might be a few, but I get the feeling JOM could get up to senior fitness, though I bet he would never be the player with the potential he had pre injury.

Burgoyne's knees were shot when he arrived at Hawthorn.