The Top 6

[Johnny Member]

I checked the goal kicking list and Membrey doesn't have "only against weak opposition" after his name? Probably one of our smarter players with ball in hand.

We're not discussing the goa llicking list though.

We're discussing the future 'top 6' that will be good enough to challenge for a flag.


If you're not able to kick goals against good opposition, you can feast out on weak opponents, but in finals when you play against good opposition, you can be found out. Hence the comment (and the figures below) being relevant to the discussion at this point in time:


Description Opponent Result G
Round 22 Richmond Win 55-46 2
Round 21 Sydney Loss 76-146 1
Round 20 Carlton Win 122-51 5
Round 19 North Melbourne Loss 62-85 0
Round 18 Western Bulldogs Win 75-60 2
Round 17 Melbourne Win 110-74 4
Round 16 Essendon Win 109-98 5
Round 15 Gold Coast Loss 68-108 2
Round 14 Geelong Win 93-90 1
Round 12 Carlton Win 110-78 5
Round 11 Adelaide Loss 45-133 1
Round 10 Fremantle Win 101-67 3
Round 9 Essendon Win 109-63 3
Round 8 West Coast Loss 29-132 0
Round 7 North Melbourne Loss 75-82 3
Round 6 Melbourne Win 135-96 5

So in all the games we got seriously flogged a guy playing as a permanent forward pocket didn't kick many goals. Obviously, he's no good, he should've started at half back, intercepted the inside 50, taken 14 bounces and slotted a couple!! Dud, delist immediately

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We beat Bulldogs, Geelong and pushed North twice - he kicked 2, 1, 0 and 3. In the games we were flogged, it was 1 and 1.

27 of his goals were against Essendon, Carlton and Melbourne.

[SaintPav]

Circular reasoning. He's not about to kick bags of goal in games where we are getting flogged. If he had, we wouldn't have been flogged.

I bet Stringer's performance against the higher ranked sides isn't that much better.

Anyway, Membrey has only played 29 games. Hopefully he'll show improvement in consistency as he gets more experience.

[Jacks Back]

I checked the goal kicking list and Membrey doesn't have "only against weak opposition" after his name? Probably one of our smarter players with ball in hand.

We're not discussing the goa llicking list though.

We're discussing the future 'top 6' that will be good enough to challenge for a flag.


If you're not able to kick goals against good opposition, you can feast out on weak opponents, but in finals when you play against good opposition, you can be found out. Hence the comment (and the figures below) being relevant to the discussion at this point in time:


Description Opponent Result G
Round 22 Richmond Win 55-46 2
Round 21 Sydney Loss 76-146 1
Round 20 Carlton Win 122-51 5
Round 19 North Melbourne Loss 62-85 0
Round 18 Western Bulldogs Win 75-60 2
Round 17 Melbourne Win 110-74 4
Round 16 Essendon Win 109-98 5
Round 15 Gold Coast Loss 68-108 2
Round 14 Geelong Win 93-90 1
Round 12 Carlton Win 110-78 5
Round 11 Adelaide Loss 45-133 1
Round 10 Fremantle Win 101-67 3
Round 9 Essendon Win 109-63 3
Round 8 West Coast Loss 29-132 0
Round 7 North Melbourne Loss 75-82 3
Round 6 Melbourne Win 135-96 5

So in all the games we got seriously flogged a guy playing as a permanent forward pocket didn't kick many goals. Obviously, he's no good, he should've started at half back, intercepted the inside 50, taken 14 bounces and slotted a couple!! Dud, delist immediately

??

We beat Bulldogs, Geelong and pushed North twice - he kicked 2, 1, 0 and 3. In the games we were flogged, it was 1 and 1.

27 of his goals were against Essendon, Carlton and Melbourne.

Well he should break the record then this week.

[Johnny Member]

Circular reasoning. He's not about to kick bags of goal in games where we are getting flogged. If he had, we wouldn't have been flogged.

I bet Stringer's performance against the higher ranked sides isn't that much better.

Anyway, Membrey has only played 29 games. Hopefully he'll show improvement in consistency as he gets more experience.

Not really.

I'm not trying to reason that he's no good - just that I don't see him as a world beater and therefore I don't expect him to be in our 'top 6' if we're a genuine flag threat.


Put it this way - I don't see Membrey win a lot of contests. And this is why he hasn't performed against good opposition. A-grade forwards win 50-50 contests, and even win some 60-40 ones against them. They're a rare commodity, and I don't think Membrey is one of them.

That's not to say a handy medium sized leading forward won't be of value in a good team. Just that I don't see him as a 'top 6' player in a flag team.