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Re: Coaches Votes 2016

Post: # 1620215Post saintbrat »

A 10 for Jack Steven this week
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/af ... s-round-1/

ST KILDA V CARLTON
10 Steven (StK), 8 Hickey (StK), 6 Membrey (StK), 4 Ross (StK), 1 Docherty (Carl), 1 Geary (StK).


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Re: Coaches Votes 2016

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saintbrat wrote:A 10 for Jack Steven this week
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/af ... s-round-1/

ST KILDA V CARLTON
10 Steven (StK), 8 Hickey (StK), 6 Membrey (StK), 4 Ross (StK), 1 Docherty (Carl), 1 Geary (StK).
So they basically copied the Saintsational votes. Threw in a token Blue and Geary to annoy a few.


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Re: Coaches Votes 2016

Post: # 1622549Post saintbrat »

Another 10 for a saint
St Kilda v Geelong

10 Ross (StK),
7 Steven (StK),
5 Weller (StK),
4 Henderson (Geel),
4 Selwood (Geel).
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/af ... s-round-1/


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Post: # 1622550Post stevie »

saintbrat wrote:Another 10 for a saint
St Kilda v Geelong

10 Ross (StK),
7 Steven (StK),
5 Weller (StK),
4 Henderson (Geel),
4 Selwood (Geel).
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/af ... s-round-1/
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Re: Coaches Votes 2016

Post: # 1622587Post WellardSaint »

Geezus, you'd have to put Hickey in there somewhere! Second efforts, presence, grunt, influence, he really did a great job!


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Hickey got votes agin this week
ST KILDA V ESSENDON
10 Steven (StK),
8 Z. Merrett (Ess),
4 Membrey (StK),
3 Geary (StK),
2 Goddard (Ess),
2 Fantasia (Ess),
1 Hickey (StK).
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/af ... s-round-1/

and Jack S has made it into the top 10
LEADERBOARD
76 – RORY SLOANE (ADEL)
69 – PATRICK DANGERFIELD (GEEL)
64 – DUSTIN MARTIN (RICH), JOEL SELWOOD (GEEL)
63 – LUKE SHUEY (WC)
59 – MARCUS BONTEMPELLI (WB)
55 – DAN HANNEBERY (SYD)
51 -TODD GOLDSTEIN (NM), LUKE PARKER (SYD), JACK STEVEN (STK)


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Go Tom
http://www.saints.com.au/news/2016-07-1 ... -to-hickey

AFL CA Votes Round 17
St Kilda v Melbourne

10 Tom Hickey
8 Tim Membrey
6 Jack Viney
2 Sean Dempster
2 Jack Newnes
1 Jarryn Geary
1 Leigh Montagna

LEADERBOARD
80 – RORY SLOANE (ADEL)
79 – PATRICK DANGERFIELD (GEEL)
74 – DUSTIN MARTIN (RICH)
69 – JOEL SELWOOD (GEEL)
66 – LUKE SHUEY (WC)
63 – MARCUS BONTEMPELLI (WB)
57 – LUKE PARKER (SYD)
55 – DAN HANNEBERY (SYD)
51 -TODD GOLDSTEIN (NM), JACK STEVEN (STK), ROBBIE GRAY (PA), DYLAN SHIEL (GWS)

Like the Saints ladder position -Jack is equal ninth


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Re: Coaches Votes 2016

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.@stkildafc ruckman Tom Hickey is 1 of few players to beat Demon ruckman Max Gawn in 2016.

http://aflplaye.rs/CoachesVotesR17

And he's done it twice.


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http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/af ... s-round-1/

WESTERN BULLDOGS V ST KILDA
9 Steven (StK),
6 Bontempelli (WB),
6 Dempster (StK),
5 Riewoldt (StK),
2 Geary (StK),
2 Weller (StK).

Jack creeping up- but probably too far behind without Danger gong down with an injury
LEADERBOARD
85 – PATRICK DANGERFIELD (GEEL)
80 – RORY SLOANE (ADEL)
79 – DUSTIN MARTIN (RICH)
73 – JOEL SELWOOD (GEEL)
69 – MARCUS BONTEMPELLI (WB)
66 – LUKE SHUEY (WC)
60 – JACK STEVEN (STK)
59 – SAM MITCHELL (HAW)
59 – LUKE PARKER (SYD)
56 – ROBBIE GRAY (PA)


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Re: Coaches Votes 2016

Post: # 1627577Post desertsaint »

Strange voting there. looks like Bont got 5 from one (guess who) and 1 from the other. Steven clearly a 10 that game.
Dempster 3 & 3, Roo 4 & 1, Geary and Weller both got a 2.


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desertsaint wrote:Strange voting there. looks like Bont got 5 from one (guess who) and 1 from the other. Steven clearly a 10 that game.
Dempster 3 & 3, Roo 4 & 1, Geary and Weller both got a 2.
Yes was just thinking the same.

Looks like sour grapes from Beveridge - Steven with 39 disposals @ 74%, 7 tackles, 6 clearances, was clearly BOG.


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5: Steven
4: Riewoldt
3: Bontempelli
2 Weller
1: Dempster

5: Dempster
4: Steven
3: Bontempelli
2: Geary
1: Riewoldt

My guess is that AR gave Dempster 5 for some role he played in the team that 75% of supporters wouldn't have a clue about.


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Jewellzy wrote:5: Steven
4: Riewoldt
3: Bontempelli
2 Weller
1: Dempster

5: Dempster
4: Steven
3: Bontempelli
2: Geary
1: Riewoldt

My guess is that AR gave Dempster 5 for some role he played in the team that 75% of supporters wouldn't have a clue about.
Or
Steven 5+4
Bont or Dempster 4+2
Dempster or Bont 3+3
Roo 5 + 0
Weller or geary 2 + 0
Geary or Weller1 + 1


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Re: Coaches Votes 2016

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Well done Blake
NORTH MELBOURNE V ST KILDA
9 Macmillan (NM),
8 Cunnington (NM),
6 Petrie (NM),
3 Gibson (NM),
2 Acres (StK),
2 Thompson (NM).

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/af ... s-round-1/


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CARLTON V ST KILDA
8 Gresham (StK),
6 Membrey (StK),
6 Newnes (StK),
5 Riewoldt (StK),
2 Roberton (StK),
2 Tuohy (Carl),
1 Ross (StK).

Jack with his hard tags over last 2 week has slipped out of the top 10

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/af ... s-round-1/


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Brownlow votes for Gresh?


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saintbrat wrote:CARLTON V ST KILDA
8 Gresham (StK),
6 Membrey (StK),
6 Newnes (StK),
5 Riewoldt (StK),
2 Roberton (StK),
2 Tuohy (Carl),
1 Ross (StK).

Jack with his hard tags over last 2 week has slipped out of the top 10

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/af ... s-round-1/
Love that. Gresham, Newnes, Membrey, Seb.

The reliance on the old guard is lessening.


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Post: # 1630107Post Bernard Shakey »

borderbarry wrote:Brownlow votes for Gresh?
Yes!

Gresham 4 +4
Membry 3+3
Newnes 5+1
Roo 5
Roberton 2
Touchy 2
Ross 1


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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-15/a ... s-round-21

ST KILDA v SYDNEY SWANS
10 Lance Franklin (Syd)
8 Luke Parker (Syd)
5 Dan Hannebery (Syd)
3 Josh Kennedy (Syd)
3 Jake Lloyd (Syd)
1 Callum Mills (Syd)

not even a 1


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saintbrat wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-15/a ... s-round-21

ST KILDA v SYDNEY SWANS
10 Lance Franklin (Syd)
8 Luke Parker (Syd)
5 Dan Hannebery (Syd)
3 Josh Kennedy (Syd)
3 Jake Lloyd (Syd)
1 Callum Mills (Syd)

not even a 1
No one dereved a point, not on that performance after half time.

Surprised the coaches didn't award the maggots votes though for assisting the swans to a win.


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I am assuming they have again gone' in camera' for the past couple of weeks- Think they forgot last year.

No published votes ( as of early Tuesday)


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obviously being asked
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The @AFLCoaches' Champion Player of the Year votes from R22 are being embargoed.

Winner will be announced on Monday after the H&A season.


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be nice to know the final two round voting

but Dangerfield won by biggest no. of votes and greatest margin

he is trotting out the standard line-- it's not about the individual.... and quoting 'Hodge" which doesn't relate to the ' regular' footballer...


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ok last 2 rounds votes
well done Seb
rd 22
RICHMOND v ST KILDA
10 Seb Ross (StK)
7 Leigh Montagna (StK)
6 Daniel Rioli (Rich)
3 Sean Dempster (StK)
2 Dustin Martin (Rich)
1 Blake Acres (StK)
1 Nick Riewoldt (StK)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-29/a ... s-round-22

and Rd 23
guess who got 10 :)

ST KILDA v BRISBANE LIONS
10 Nick Riewoldt (StK)
7 David Armitage (StK)
7 Jack Steven (StK)
3 Dylan Roberton (StK)
2 Tom Rockliff (BL)
1 Daniel McKenzie (StK)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-29/a ... s-round-23


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Saints players Votes over 2016

21 players got votes
Saints players have scored 7 X 10's across the season

Jack Steven - polled in 12 games- 69 votes
Nick Riewoldt- polled in 8 games -47 votes
Seb Ross- Polled in 6 Games- 40 votes
Tom Hickey - Polled in 6 games - 33 votes
Tim Membrey - Polled in 6 games - 28 votes

Leigh Montagna- Polled in 5 games- 27 Votes
Jarryn Geary - Polled in 5 games - 8 votes
Sean Dempster - Polled in 4 games - 14 votes

David Armitage - Polled in 3 games - 24 votes
Jack Newnes- Polled in 3 games -13 votes
Jack Billings - Polled in 3 games- 12 Votes
Dylan Roberton - Polled in 3 games- 10 Votes
Blake Acres - Polled in 3 games - 9 votes
Mav Weller - Polled in 3 games - 8 votes

Sam Fisher -Polled in 2 games - 9 votes
Jade Gresham - Polled in 1 game - 8 votes
Josh Bruce - Polled in 1 game - 6 votes
Luke Dunstan - Polled in 1 game- 3 votes
Sam Gilbert- Polled in 1 game - 2 votes
Shane Savage - Polled in 1 game - 2 votes

last Player to get a Vote
Daniel McKenzie - Polled in the last game- 1 Vote.


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