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Goal kicking
There is only ONE skill worth anything in football. When will they learn.
Kick the goal win the game.
Everything else does not matter. The Saints players ALL fall to pieces when faced with the goals. week after week after week.
Hawks have worked it out. They rarely miss easy shots. Now staring at 4 in a row.
Kick the goal win the game.
Everything else does not matter. The Saints players ALL fall to pieces when faced with the goals. week after week after week.
Hawks have worked it out. They rarely miss easy shots. Now staring at 4 in a row.
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Re: Goal kicking
Project for 2017. Draft players who can kick.
Spend the preseason perfecting goal kicking and field kicking!
Employ a kicking coach who can kick!
Spend the preseason perfecting goal kicking and field kicking!
Employ a kicking coach who can kick!
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Re: Goal kicking
wouldnt they do that every pre season...
what do you reckon Lindsay Gilbee and Hamill get paid to do.... they train or play four days per week... its pathetic
what do you reckon Lindsay Gilbee and Hamill get paid to do.... they train or play four days per week... its pathetic
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Re: Goal kicking
Come on people. Don't you know they have to attend some meetings and then more meetings and have no time for that sort of stuff.
Goal kicking practice. Pffftt
Goal kicking practice. Pffftt
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Re: Goal kicking
I don't understand the argument from these medicos that too much goal kicking practice puts too great a strain on the body.
Maybe that is true for 50m bombs.
But not for shots within 30m.
These are bread and butter shots and a fulltime professional getting paid $300k+ should be able to nail them every time in windless conditions.
They should practice them for two hours a day till they get their efficiency rates up.
Golfers don't become worse putters by practicing clutch putts for hours on end.
Maybe that is true for 50m bombs.
But not for shots within 30m.
These are bread and butter shots and a fulltime professional getting paid $300k+ should be able to nail them every time in windless conditions.
They should practice them for two hours a day till they get their efficiency rates up.
Golfers don't become worse putters by practicing clutch putts for hours on end.
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Re: Goal kicking
Let's be honest, we have a group that are ferocious at the footy, but lack kicking skills and class. So our set shots are going to reflect this.
Bring back the Lockett era
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Maybe the ferocious at the footy leads to exhausted kicks?
I worry about a game predominantly built around pressure.
I worry about a game predominantly built around pressure.
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Re: Goal kicking
Didn't do us much good in the 09 gf did it...SainterK wrote:Maybe the ferocious at the footy leads to exhausted kicks?
I worry about a game predominantly built around pressure.
We don't have to many natural good kicks. It's as simple as that really
Bring back the Lockett era
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Was absolutely dreadful. i can handle a half chance missing or even a pure defender having a shot. But the most infuriating thing is when Billings, Roo, Bruce and Membrey are missing bread and butter shots.
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Re: Goal kicking
At the end of the day, it's called "foot" ball. We have been poor in this area for years now and it costs the team dearly on a weekly basis.
Close-in shots should be quite simple for these guys, so it must be very frustrating for those flogging themselves on the backline.
Close-in shots should be quite simple for these guys, so it must be very frustrating for those flogging themselves on the backline.
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Re: Goal kicking
So much is about muscle memory and routine, unfortunately players mess/vary or don't stick to a routine and therefore it is hard to correct a small deficiency when the routine changes. Using a basketball analogy the best free-throw shooters do the same thing each time and generally won't miss 2 in a row as they will be able to automatically adjust for any slight variances which cause a miss. Players will always miss as the mechanics of things can vary with human error, fatigue , concentration or laziness, however the correction of those errors doesn't seem to occur. Probably costs us 2-3 games this season
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Hawks use clever zoning so they are not taxing themselves physically as much as other teams. Instead of chasing a guy from one side of the ground to the other, they drop off and let another guy in another zone pick him up. It's why they win the close ones - they are fresher. Likewise why they are so good in September after a marathon season - they are very efficient throughout the year.
Richo's game plan is pretty taxing with tackling and physical pressure. Might be effecting their kicks on goal.
Richo's game plan is pretty taxing with tackling and physical pressure. Might be effecting their kicks on goal.
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Re: Goal kicking
The best you can do is have a technique that stands up to pressure. It's far from a perfect science, of course. Even the best kick for goal that I've seen - Plugger - was going at only 7-7.5 out of 10.BigMart wrote:
there is little expertise in this area... and imo a lot of it is mental
When he kicked for goal it was as though the only part of him that was moving was his boot. Head perfectly still. Straight back and straight through and the ball was going straight over the goal umpire's head ... More often than not.
Maybe Stewie Loewe can give them some pointers because if there ever was an advertisement for the value of working on technique, he is it.
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Re: Goal kicking
BALDOCK IS OURS
Keep your filthy stinking cotton picking hands off him Hawthorn.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-30/t ... -200-goals
Keep your filthy stinking cotton picking hands off him Hawthorn.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-30/t ... -200-goals
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Re: Goal kicking
Indeed, Loewe is a good example, before Peter Hudson & the development of Loewe's goal kicking routine, he was probably one of the worst kicks in AFL/VFL history! When I say that Clint Jones had far superior foot skills to the young Stewie Loewe, I m not exaggerating.bigcarl wrote:The best you can do is have a technique that stands up to pressure. It's far from a perfect science, of course. Even the best kick for goal that I've seen - Plugger - was going at only 7-7.5 out of 10.BigMart wrote:
there is little expertise in this area... and imo a lot of it is mental
When he kicked for goal it was as though the only part of him that was moving was his boot. Head perfectly still. Straight back and straight through and the ball was going straight over the goal umpire's head ... More often than not.
Maybe Stewie Loewe can give them some pointers because if there ever was an advertisement for the value of working on technique, he is it.
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Re: Goal kicking
The poor umpiring decisions aside, that was the worst kicking display by St Kilda that I have seen in a long time. 2.10 in the third quarter? You can't win a game of football with that kind of kicking.
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Re: Goal kicking
Should have been 6.4 maybe, and we could have been closer on the scoreboard.sainterinsydney wrote:The poor umpiring decisions aside, that was the worst kicking display by St Kilda that I have seen in a long time. 2.10 in the third quarter? You can't win a game of football with that kind of kicking.
But as we got killed in the clearances, our goals would have been a reload in the middle, and we could have lost by more as the Roos (assisted by the maggots)
would sweep it into their F50.
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Re: Goal kicking
If you want to see bad... You shoulda watched Sandy today
6-22
In perfect conditions... It was hilarious
1-13 at one point... Then after getting on a role and getting back to 4 goals behind... The next five scoring shots were behinds
It was like when they were not a chance, the pressure was off... They kicked a few goals. As soon as it was game on... The misses piled up again
Soft
6-22
In perfect conditions... It was hilarious
1-13 at one point... Then after getting on a role and getting back to 4 goals behind... The next five scoring shots were behinds
It was like when they were not a chance, the pressure was off... They kicked a few goals. As soon as it was game on... The misses piled up again
Soft
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Re: Goal kicking
1.14 at three quarter time. A disgrace!BigMart wrote:If you want to see bad... You shoulda watched Sandy today
6-22
In perfect conditions... It was hilarious
1-13 at one point... Then after getting on a role and getting back to 4 goals behind... The next five scoring shots were behinds
It was like when they were not a chance, the pressure was off... They kicked a few goals. As soon as it was game on... The misses piled up again
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Re: Goal kicking
Is it me or do a lot of players do that "swing out to the right just before kicking" thing when kicking for goal these days? I'm not sure its the Buddy factor they are copying. I think it gives them some extra distance but just kicking straight through it is much better odds to kick it straight - Buddy is a freak.