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Goal kicking

Post: # 1628373Post repta »

There is only ONE skill worth anything in football. When will they learn.

Kick the goal win the game.

Everything else does not matter. The Saints players ALL fall to pieces when faced with the goals. week after week after week.

Hawks have worked it out. They rarely miss easy shots. Now staring at 4 in a row.


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Post: # 1628396Post BigMart »

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Post: # 1628421Post stkfc1 »

There is absolutely no excuse. Paid professionals. Do not give the BS excuse of out of legs/psychological issues whatever. Not good enough.


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Re: Goal kicking

Post: # 1628439Post Bernard Shakey »

Project for 2017. Draft players who can kick.
Spend the preseason perfecting goal kicking and field kicking!
Employ a kicking coach who can kick!


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Post: # 1628444Post BigMart »

wouldnt they do that every pre season...

what do you reckon Lindsay Gilbee and Hamill get paid to do.... they train or play four days per week... its pathetic


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Post: # 1628505Post Jacks Back »

Come on people. Don't you know they have to attend some meetings and then more meetings and have no time for that sort of stuff.

Goal kicking practice. Pffftt :roll:


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Re: Goal kicking

Post: # 1628511Post Enrico_Misso »

I don't understand the argument from these medicos that too much goal kicking practice puts too great a strain on the body.
Maybe that is true for 50m bombs.

But not for shots within 30m.
These are bread and butter shots and a fulltime professional getting paid $300k+ should be able to nail them every time in windless conditions.

They should practice them for two hours a day till they get their efficiency rates up.

Golfers don't become worse putters by practicing clutch putts for hours on end.


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Post: # 1628515Post jonesy »

Let's be honest, we have a group that are ferocious at the footy, but lack kicking skills and class. So our set shots are going to reflect this.


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Maybe the ferocious at the footy leads to exhausted kicks?

I worry about a game predominantly built around pressure.


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Post: # 1628523Post jonesy »

SainterK wrote:Maybe the ferocious at the footy leads to exhausted kicks?

I worry about a game predominantly built around pressure.
Didn't do us much good in the 09 gf did it...

We don't have to many natural good kicks. It's as simple as that really


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Post: # 1628620Post Wombat15 »

Was absolutely dreadful. i can handle a half chance missing or even a pure defender having a shot. But the most infuriating thing is when Billings, Roo, Bruce and Membrey are missing bread and butter shots.


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Post: # 1628623Post Junction Oval »

At the end of the day, it's called "foot" ball. We have been poor in this area for years now and it costs the team dearly on a weekly basis.

Close-in shots should be quite simple for these guys, so it must be very frustrating for those flogging themselves on the backline.


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Post: # 1628628Post older saint »

So much is about muscle memory and routine, unfortunately players mess/vary or don't stick to a routine and therefore it is hard to correct a small deficiency when the routine changes. Using a basketball analogy the best free-throw shooters do the same thing each time and generally won't miss 2 in a row as they will be able to automatically adjust for any slight variances which cause a miss. Players will always miss as the mechanics of things can vary with human error, fatigue , concentration or laziness, however the correction of those errors doesn't seem to occur. Probably costs us 2-3 games this season


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Re: Goal kicking

Post: # 1628643Post Bluthy »

Hawks use clever zoning so they are not taxing themselves physically as much as other teams. Instead of chasing a guy from one side of the ground to the other, they drop off and let another guy in another zone pick him up. It's why they win the close ones - they are fresher. Likewise why they are so good in September after a marathon season - they are very efficient throughout the year.

Richo's game plan is pretty taxing with tackling and physical pressure. Might be effecting their kicks on goal.


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Post: # 1628646Post bigcarl »

BigMart wrote:
there is little expertise in this area... and imo a lot of it is mental
The best you can do is have a technique that stands up to pressure. It's far from a perfect science, of course. Even the best kick for goal that I've seen - Plugger - was going at only 7-7.5 out of 10.

When he kicked for goal it was as though the only part of him that was moving was his boot. Head perfectly still. Straight back and straight through and the ball was going straight over the goal umpire's head ... More often than not.

Maybe Stewie Loewe can give them some pointers because if there ever was an advertisement for the value of working on technique, he is it.


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bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:
there is little expertise in this area... and imo a lot of it is mental
The best you can do is have a technique that stands up to pressure. It's far from a perfect science, of course. Even the best kick for goal that I've seen - Plugger - was going at only 7-7.5 out of 10.

When he kicked for goal it was as though the only part of him that was moving was his boot. Head perfectly still. Straight back and straight through and the ball was going straight over the goal umpire's head ... More often than not.

Maybe Stewie Loewe can give them some pointers because if there ever was an advertisement for the value of working on technique, he is it.
Indeed, Loewe is a good example, before Peter Hudson & the development of Loewe's goal kicking routine, he was probably one of the worst kicks in AFL/VFL history! When I say that Clint Jones had far superior foot skills to the young Stewie Loewe, I m not exaggerating.


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Post: # 1628705Post sainterinsydney »

The poor umpiring decisions aside, that was the worst kicking display by St Kilda that I have seen in a long time. 2.10 in the third quarter? You can't win a game of football with that kind of kicking.


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Post: # 1628717Post WellardSaint »

sainterinsydney wrote:The poor umpiring decisions aside, that was the worst kicking display by St Kilda that I have seen in a long time. 2.10 in the third quarter? You can't win a game of football with that kind of kicking.
Should have been 6.4 maybe, and we could have been closer on the scoreboard.
But as we got killed in the clearances, our goals would have been a reload in the middle, and we could have lost by more as the Roos (assisted by the maggots)
would sweep it into their F50.


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Post: # 1628720Post BigMart »

If you want to see bad... You shoulda watched Sandy today

6-22
In perfect conditions... It was hilarious
1-13 at one point... Then after getting on a role and getting back to 4 goals behind... The next five scoring shots were behinds

It was like when they were not a chance, the pressure was off... They kicked a few goals. As soon as it was game on... The misses piled up again

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Post: # 1628728Post Bernard Shakey »

BigMart wrote:If you want to see bad... You shoulda watched Sandy today

6-22
In perfect conditions... It was hilarious
1-13 at one point... Then after getting on a role and getting back to 4 goals behind... The next five scoring shots were behinds

It was like when they were not a chance, the pressure was off... They kicked a few goals. As soon as it was game on... The misses piled up again

Soft
1.14 at three quarter time. A disgrace!


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Re: Goal kicking

Post: # 1628755Post Bluthy »

Is it me or do a lot of players do that "swing out to the right just before kicking" thing when kicking for goal these days? I'm not sure its the Buddy factor they are copying. I think it gives them some extra distance but just kicking straight through it is much better odds to kick it straight - Buddy is a freak.


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Post: # 1628761Post BigMart »

Buddy also misses a lot


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