Dunstan
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 386
- Joined: Sat 14 Jun 2014 11:42pm
- Been thanked: 5 times
Re: Dunstan
Geez he looked good in traffic tonight, looking forward to next season, Ross Dunstan Acres Gresham. New age midfield.
Re: Dunstan
This is a piss-take yeah???
he was poor ...
My opinion on him stands ... until he proves otherwise
He is not an AFL quality mid
Slow, and fumbles.... he's getting a great run at it, and doesnt do enough to justify his spot
Billings
Might have had good skills in the U18
Ive seen average skills from him this year at AFL level... maybe because of his intensity he is always under the pressure.. but he fumbles, he misses targets by hand and foot and he's not shown me anything outside two games that he is top end elite.
Dal is and has always been elite with the ball... even in his first season... JB is not
his kicking is not as good as minchington
he was poor ...
My opinion on him stands ... until he proves otherwise
He is not an AFL quality mid
Slow, and fumbles.... he's getting a great run at it, and doesnt do enough to justify his spot
Billings
Might have had good skills in the U18
Ive seen average skills from him this year at AFL level... maybe because of his intensity he is always under the pressure.. but he fumbles, he misses targets by hand and foot and he's not shown me anything outside two games that he is top end elite.
Dal is and has always been elite with the ball... even in his first season... JB is not
his kicking is not as good as minchington
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1318
- Joined: Sun 25 Mar 2012 9:45pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 101 times
Re: Dunstan
Dunstan had a shocking first half... really poor.
I for one still think he will become a very good player .. needs to keep improving and will
I for one still think he will become a very good player .. needs to keep improving and will
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 386
- Joined: Sat 14 Jun 2014 11:42pm
- Been thanked: 5 times
Re: Dunstan
You've got to be joking about Dunstan..BigMart wrote:This is a piss-take yeah???
he was poor ...
My opinion on him stands ... until he proves otherwise
He is not an AFL quality mid
Slow, and fumbles.... he's getting a great run at it, and doesnt do enough to justify his spot
Billings
Might have had good skills in the U18
Ive seen average skills from him this year at AFL level... maybe because of his intensity he is always under the pressure.. but he fumbles, he misses targets by hand and foot and he's not shown me anything outside two games that he is top end elite.
Dal is and has always been elite with the ball... even in his first season... JB is not
his kicking is not as good as minchington
Billings has been quite poor. Shaping to be our Jack Watts.
However he was alright tonight. Beautiful kick except for SET SHOTS. but yeah fumbles too much. Has no confidence
Re: Dunstan
12 possessions... and played in the centre square. That just doesn't cut it... and don't give me this - he does a lot of bullocking crap... Cunnington bullocks and wins clearances.
The North inside mids flogged him and Armo to the point of embarrassment.
With Jack being tagged, he did not step up and get 25...
If he doesnt get dropped next week... somethings amiss
The North inside mids flogged him and Armo to the point of embarrassment.
With Jack being tagged, he did not step up and get 25...
If he doesnt get dropped next week... somethings amiss
Re: Dunstan
He didn't step up and get 25? 25 was our highest possession getter, better drop everyone. 22 was second best.
Re: Dunstan
hence we lost easily and not everyone gets 80 mins in the midfield
and
he doesnt get 20 very often... he averages 17ppg which would be the lowest for any centre square mid in the league
he's a below average mid.. and that being nice. I once compared him to Stephen Powell...and thats being overley complimentary... Powelly was a good player
and
he doesnt get 20 very often... he averages 17ppg which would be the lowest for any centre square mid in the league
he's a below average mid.. and that being nice. I once compared him to Stephen Powell...and thats being overley complimentary... Powelly was a good player
Re: Dunstan
Disagree with BigMart. Unreasonably harsh and short sighted assessment. I think Luke definitely needs to improve his tank and get some more cheap outside touches on the spread. He is too focused on the hard core inside work. I'm confident he will improve on those 2 areas. He's only 21 ffs. Powell was playing like this in his late 20s!
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23156
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
- Has thanked: 9105 times
- Been thanked: 3948 times
Re: Dunstan
He is given a tough gig every week and he's doing okay. We still have won 7 out of our last 10 games.Ned Stark wrote:Disagree with BigMart. Unreasonably harsh and short sighted assessment. I think Luke definitely needs to improve his tank and get some more cheap outside touches on the spread. He is too focused on the hard core inside work. I'm confident he will improve on those 2 areas. He's only 21 ffs. Powell was playing like this in his late 20s!
- desertsaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10431
- Joined: Sun 27 Apr 2008 2:02pm
- Location: out there
- Has thanked: 190 times
- Been thanked: 713 times
Re: Dunstan
he gets a heck of a lot more of it than possessions show. every game count the number of times he is able to stop the opposition getting the ball out of a maul, and then obviously is immediately locked in by others. stops a lot of clearances with his hard inside work.
"The starting point of all achievement is desire. "
- 8856brother
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4374
- Joined: Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:58pm
- Location: Twin Peaks
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: Dunstan
Should be tougher on Armo really. Where has he been all year. Zero clearances tonight. He should have stood up when Jack was being tagged out of it. What's happened to him, he was a raging bull last year racking up 40 disposals on occasions.
I personally thought Dunstan was ok tonight.
Sent from my SM-T210 using Tapatalk
I personally thought Dunstan was ok tonight.
Sent from my SM-T210 using Tapatalk
Last edited by 8856brother on Sat 30 Jul 2016 11:54pm, edited 1 time in total.
_______________________________________________________________________
"Don't argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
"Don't argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
Re: Dunstan
he didnt stop too many clearances tonight!
Why is he a sacred cow... He's a slow, averagely skilled mid who has not got the tank to spread.
I think he is barely any good inside... And was schooled tonight
Why is he a sacred cow... He's a slow, averagely skilled mid who has not got the tank to spread.
I think he is barely any good inside... And was schooled tonight
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4655
- Joined: Sun 18 Jun 2006 2:04pm
- Location: Melb
- Has thanked: 5 times
- Been thanked: 23 times
Re: Dunstan
8856brother wrote:Should be tougher on Armo really. Where has he been all year. Zero clearances tonight. He should have stood up when Jack was beinv tagged out of it. What's happened to him, he was a raging bull last year racking up 40 disposals on occasions.
I personally thought Dunstan was ok tonight.
This. Is he injured, kudos if so. Otherwise he's been really poor
Sent from my SM-T210 using Tapatalk
Bring back the Lockett era
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2190
- Joined: Sun 28 Mar 2004 1:59pm
- Location: by the seaside..
- Has thanked: 36 times
- Been thanked: 187 times
Re: Dunstan
This.desertsaint wrote: every game count the number of times he is able to stop the opposition getting the ball out of a maul, and then obviously is immediately locked in by others. stops a lot of clearances with his hard inside work.
His off the ball work is the best in our team by a mile. They just dont record those acts as stats - so he doesnt get the recognition he deserves from the general football public who are focused on the stats sheets.
“If you want the rainbow you gotta put up with rain” Dolly Parton
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3856
- Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 2:41pm
- Has thanked: 419 times
- Been thanked: 237 times
Re: Dunstan
+1 and 1. Had the binoculars trained in him tonight and he worked very hard for little credit.Zed wrote:This.desertsaint wrote: every game count the number of times he is able to stop the opposition getting the ball out of a maul, and then obviously is immediately locked in by others. stops a lot of clearances with his hard inside work.
His off the ball work is the best in our team by a mile. They just dont record those acts as stats - so he doesnt get the recognition he deserves from the general football public who are focused on the stats sheets.
Always loyal
Re: Dunstan
id rather he just win the ball at stoppage and get a few kicks like his opponents do... being flogged at stppage, at contested ball and uncontested ball is not a recipe for winning in the midfield... even if you are doing 'unrecognised' work off the ball... which every mid/player does. i'd love his to get a kick or two... and influence a game
stats are onlty worthless if they work against your argument
stats are onlty worthless if they work against your argument
- shrodes
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3102
- Joined: Tue 12 Aug 2014 2:34pm
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 793 times
- Been thanked: 438 times
Re: Dunstan
I agree. It's like some people on here either don't watch the footy, or don't really understand how it works beyond possessions and goals. There's more to a player's effort than the obvious stuff.SemperFidelis wrote:+1 and 1. Had the binoculars trained in him tonight and he worked very hard for little credit.Zed wrote:This.desertsaint wrote: every game count the number of times he is able to stop the opposition getting the ball out of a maul, and then obviously is immediately locked in by others. stops a lot of clearances with his hard inside work.
His off the ball work is the best in our team by a mile. They just dont record those acts as stats - so he doesnt get the recognition he deserves from the general football public who are focused on the stats sheets.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 347
- Joined: Mon 19 Sep 2011 5:22pm
- Has thanked: 8 times
- Been thanked: 18 times
Re: Dunstan
Sorrry but no: all relevant stats, shepherds, pressure acts etc are tabulated obssessively. You won't get too much support for your Dunstan plug until, at the very least, he learns how to kick. His endeavour is first class but his skills are well behind.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 675
- Joined: Tue 15 Mar 2016 7:03pm
- Has thanked: 85 times
- Been thanked: 136 times
Re: Dunstan
Dunstan is below average. I cannot believe the mid opportunities he's had & continues to have despite poor output. Too slow, average skills & not an accumulator. No tricks.
Re: Dunstan
So he does what??
he cant chase, he cant spread, he cant run out of a stoppage, he hasnt got good hands, hes not a great kick... he's an inside mid who doesnt get his hands on the pill.
Minchinton and Wright got more of the ball tonight playing as small fwds who are really just defensive chasers.
seriously
Name another inside mid in the afl whos played every game and doesnt at least get it 20 times a game
he cant chase, he cant spread, he cant run out of a stoppage, he hasnt got good hands, hes not a great kick... he's an inside mid who doesnt get his hands on the pill.
Minchinton and Wright got more of the ball tonight playing as small fwds who are really just defensive chasers.
seriously
Name another inside mid in the afl whos played every game and doesnt at least get it 20 times a game
Re: Dunstan
What was BM posting about Seb Ross two years ago when he was the same age as LD? I'm guessing the same ill conceived rubbish as the above.
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2190
- Joined: Sun 28 Mar 2004 1:59pm
- Location: by the seaside..
- Has thanked: 36 times
- Been thanked: 187 times
Re: Dunstan
Jack Steven was well down tonight as were quite a number of others. Perhaps no coincidence that a number of our 'pressure merchants' were down tonight and we lose.. You could just as easily mount a case for Minch or Savage to be dropped back to Sandy as you could for Dunstan. Having said that, if Eli and Sinclair keep banging the door down at Sandy someone has to make way to give them a run.fugazi wrote:Be honest, Dunstan was average tonight. Not terrible, he has a crack but was well beaten.
Due a spell in the magoos
“If you want the rainbow you gotta put up with rain” Dolly Parton