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Mr Magic wrote:I've been told that Essendon are using the Compensation Insurance as a 'lever' to get the 12 players to sign.
Apparently each player can get more/less compensation depending on how many 'injections' they received.
Hurley's management know he can get as much (if not more) outside Essendon as rival clubs 'throw money' at him to secure him.
So the reason he hasn't signed could possibly be the amount he's been offered in compensation?
How can compensation be used as an inducement here ---- wouldn't players be able to sue regardless of whether they decide to stay or move on?
Wouldn't compensation be a separate matter?
Under normal circumstances I would agree with you.
BUT here we have vested interests (not least the the AFL) trying to make sure that this doesn't end up in court (players suing EFC/AFL) and that the 'insurance' kicks in to cover any compensation.
I have heard that players are being offered differing amounts depending on how many injections they received and that the Club (EFC) is telling the players what they can 'get (compensation) for them. Obviously the Club (EFC) will 'work harder' on maximising the compensation for those players who recommit.
From what I've heard most players are 'ropeable' with the Club because they either cannot or will not tell them what was injected. They were all apparently given a list of what the substances were supposed to be but nobody at EFC can/will guarantee that the substances on the list were what was actually injected.
Maybe it would be interesting to hear what Carlisle/Melksham/Ryder/Crameri et al are being told about their 'compensation'?
The cheats know very well what was injected but they are screwed if they now admit to that and so would the players. Screwed that is.
stonecold wrote:So according to Damien Barrett, Hurl's has gone from signing with Essendon to now only 50/50, 6 clubs in the mix, one of which is Us, Interesting!!!!!
Sometimes take these so-called experts a while to catch on hey!!!!!
I am pretty sure you also said we were getting Heppell - just before he re-committed.
MC Gusto wrote:Speaking to a bombers mate who is close to board members of the club he says they are 70-30 confident Hurley will stay.
Also said close to 10 clubs are making moves
Also said Hurley is without doubt their most important player
Let's get him. And for as little as possible. Out is spite more than anything.
Martin Luther King like, I had a dream. It was of a world where Hurley's contract is declared void by the AFL and the courts and he is free to go to a club of his choice as an uncontracted free agent. He chooses the saints. Carlisle and Hurley line up in Round 1 against the druggies, as the pillars of our defence, with both having the capacity to swing forward. For the next seven or eight years. Essendope gets nothing in return. Hibberd goes to Melbourne, Watson retires and the bummers languish near the bottom, Melbourne like, for a decade or more. Is that asking too much? Am I just being vindictive? Could it actually happen?
I started with nothing and I've got most of it left!
MC Gusto wrote:Speaking to a bombers mate who is close to board members of the club he says they are 70-30 confident Hurley will stay.
Also said close to 10 clubs are making moves
Also said Hurley is without doubt their most important player
Let's get him. And for as little as possible. Out is spite more than anything.
Martin Luther King like, I had a dream. It was of a world where Hurley's contract is declared void by the AFL and the courts and he is free to go to a club of his choice as an uncontracted free agent. He chooses the saints. Carlisle and Hurley line up in Round 1 against the druggies, as the pillars of our defence, with both having the capacity to swing forward. For the next seven or eight years. Essendope gets nothing in return. Hibberd goes to Melbourne, Watson retires and the bummers languish near the bottom, Melbourne like, for a decade or more. Is that asking too much? Am I just being vindictive? Could it actually happen?
MC Gusto wrote:Speaking to a bombers mate who is close to board members of the club he says they are 70-30 confident Hurley will stay.
Also said close to 10 clubs are making moves
Also said Hurley is without doubt their most important player
Let's get him. And for as little as possible. Out is spite more than anything.
Martin Luther King like, I had a dream. It was of a world where Hurley's contract is declared void by the AFL and the courts and he is free to go to a club of his choice as an uncontracted free agent. He chooses the saints. Carlisle and Hurley line up in Round 1 against the druggies, as the pillars of our defence, with both having the capacity to swing forward. For the next seven or eight years. Essendope gets nothing in return. Hibberd goes to Melbourne, Watson retires and the bummers languish near the bottom, Melbourne like, for a decade or more. Is that asking too much? Am I just being vindictive? Could it actually happen?
This would be perfect. You want justice to be done I reckon.
If their players choose to walk they should receive nothing in return.
No way they should be getting a top ten draft pick because their team is suspended because they cheated.
I disliked them before but the way Essendon has conducted themselves throughout the whole affair is appalling. Big end of town spin, obfuscation, entitlement and supreme arrogance. May they languish a long time.
Unfortunately, the AFL will do everything in its power to stop the dopers getting their just desserts, Satchmo. The loss of players because of OH&S concerns should be part of the punishment and serve as a warning and deterrent to others. I can only imagine how things may have gone if it was the saints, Roos or doggies who transgressed. I'd like to think there would be consistency, but I doubt it. The AFL handled this appallingly, and continues to blunder along. Take Watson's Brownlow, and declare all existing contracts held by suspended players void. That would send the right message, but the AFL is in the entertainment and money making industry, so don't hold your breath waiting for them to do the "right thing".
Rushdie also alluded to a disturbing aspect of this whole saga. The undue influence some people seem to hold at and over the AFL is quite significant. The bummers are just too powerful and important to punish appropriately. At the risk of sounding like a Tinfoil hatter, the Masonic influence is quite strong, once you scratch the surface. Food for thought.
I started with nothing and I've got most of it left!
Woosha is asking the 6 players to let the club know what their intentions are as they need to know how their list stands. A deadline is to be put in place.
So it'll all be coming to an end soon enough. It'll also mean that if any want out they'll have to decide between being traded or becoming free agents.
I could see us going for Hurley if he was a free agent, but most likely wont happen.
So when are they announcing that Hurls is coming to the Saints?
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They’re eating – they are eating the pets of the people that live there.
Good discussion on this on SEN.
They said Hibberd is 100% leaving the cheats and will end up at Melbourne or Richmond.
Hurley is a genuine 50:50 and 6-7 clubs are interested. He wants to stay in Melbourne but would consider the Crows.
Tom Mitchell is 50:50 for leaving the Swans and Carlton have offered him almost double what the Swans are offering.
Sources say Hibberd only player who wants out of Essendon
My exceptionally trustworthy mail is that if Hibberd goes then Hurley will too.
He doesn't want to be the first of the 'Big 6' to pull the pin... no indication whether that will entail breaking his contract & leaving as a DFA or which club is in the box seat if he does.
I do know that family members are very disillusioned and angry with Essendon.
So lets hope that Hibberd goes bang and his mate follows suit quickly after that.
Sources say Hibberd only player who wants out of Essendon
My exceptionally trustworthy mail is that if Hibberd goes then Hurley will too.
He doesn't want to be the first of the 'Big 6' to pull the pin... no indication whether that will entail breaking his contract & leaving as a DFA or which club is in the box seat if he does.
I do know that family members are very disillusioned and angry with Essendon.
You mail is pretty close!!!!!
So lets hope that Hibberd goes bang and his mate follows suit quickly after that.
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!! We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
ST KILDA has registered its interest in Essendon’s star defender Michael Hurley in the event the suspended All-Australian decides to leave the Bombers.
St Kilda club sources have confirmed that the Saints have spoken to Hurley’s management and flagged their interest in the backman, who is overseas and yet to declare whether he will remain with the Bombers next year.
The Saints view Hurley as fitting their needs for another key defender, despite their acquisition of his former teammate Jake Carlisle, who, like Hurley, is among the 17 current AFL players serving a season-long ban for doping offences.
