A great effort but....
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A great effort but....
How can we explain a fade out like that...
Why are Port with one less player able to run over us so easy
Couple of reasons imo
Slow in the midfield, and back half.... And could not run the ball from defence in the last.... When Jack and Joey are not involved we are slow... Armo, Seb, Dunstan, Acres are slow over the ground and don't carry the ball... Our defenders are slow with the ball.
Hickey tired and could no longer dominate
We had a few passengers... Who had no real impact
Inc
Nick R... Was one of his more average games, was not an Ariel threat....
Gresham, Eli had long periods of nothing
Jack Newnes and Jack Billings were pretty average
Fisher was eventually overwhelmed through amount of i50's... He was manful
Having said that
It was a tremendous effort for three quarters
Whilst the players were fresh... We were great.... But as soon as our pressure dropped due to tiredness our offensive weakness was exposed
All our goals are basically through pressure, and we get out the back....new need to be able to create goals ourselves too
Why are Port with one less player able to run over us so easy
Couple of reasons imo
Slow in the midfield, and back half.... And could not run the ball from defence in the last.... When Jack and Joey are not involved we are slow... Armo, Seb, Dunstan, Acres are slow over the ground and don't carry the ball... Our defenders are slow with the ball.
Hickey tired and could no longer dominate
We had a few passengers... Who had no real impact
Inc
Nick R... Was one of his more average games, was not an Ariel threat....
Gresham, Eli had long periods of nothing
Jack Newnes and Jack Billings were pretty average
Fisher was eventually overwhelmed through amount of i50's... He was manful
Having said that
It was a tremendous effort for three quarters
Whilst the players were fresh... We were great.... But as soon as our pressure dropped due to tiredness our offensive weakness was exposed
All our goals are basically through pressure, and we get out the back....new need to be able to create goals ourselves too
Re: A great effort but....
When you take Roo, Montagna and Fisher out of the side, it's a very young list.
A lot of these blokes are in only their second or third years.
They don't have the same pre-season schedule as the 5 year players. You have to build up to it.
We will fade out of a lot of games this year.
People need to be realistic. If we win 6-8 games this year it's a good result.
The real measuring stick are how the young guys come on.
Ross, Acres, Dunstan, Billings, Lonie & Co.
If they all show improvement, if the effort & desperation is up, I'm happy to have fade out games, because with another 1 or 2 pre season in them we'll have a very good squad.
A lot of these blokes are in only their second or third years.
They don't have the same pre-season schedule as the 5 year players. You have to build up to it.
We will fade out of a lot of games this year.
People need to be realistic. If we win 6-8 games this year it's a good result.
The real measuring stick are how the young guys come on.
Ross, Acres, Dunstan, Billings, Lonie & Co.
If they all show improvement, if the effort & desperation is up, I'm happy to have fade out games, because with another 1 or 2 pre season in them we'll have a very good squad.
A great effort but....
How can we explain a fade out like that...
Why are Port with one less player able to run over us so easy
Couple of reasons imo
Slow in the midfield, and back half.... And could not run the ball from defence in the last.... When Jack and Joey are not involved we are slow... Armo, Seb, Dunstan, Acres are slow over the ground and don't carry the ball... Our defenders are slow with the ball.
Hickey tired and could no longer dominate
We had a few passengers... Who had no real impact
Inc
Nick R... Was one of his more average games, was not an Ariel threat....
Gresham, Eli had long periods of nothing
Jack Newnes and Jack Billings were pretty average
Fisher was eventually overwhelmed through amount of i50's... He was manful
Having said that
It was a tremendous effort for three quarters
Whilst the players were fresh... We were great.... But as soon as our pressure dropped due to tiredness our offensive weakness was exposed
All our goals are basically through pressure, and we get out the back....new need to be able to create goals ourselves too
Why are Port with one less player able to run over us so easy
Couple of reasons imo
Slow in the midfield, and back half.... And could not run the ball from defence in the last.... When Jack and Joey are not involved we are slow... Armo, Seb, Dunstan, Acres are slow over the ground and don't carry the ball... Our defenders are slow with the ball.
Hickey tired and could no longer dominate
We had a few passengers... Who had no real impact
Inc
Nick R... Was one of his more average games, was not an Ariel threat....
Gresham, Eli had long periods of nothing
Jack Newnes and Jack Billings were pretty average
Fisher was eventually overwhelmed through amount of i50's... He was manful
Having said that
It was a tremendous effort for three quarters
Whilst the players were fresh... We were great.... But as soon as our pressure dropped due to tiredness our offensive weakness was exposed
All our goals are basically through pressure, and we get out the back....new need to be able to create goals ourselves too
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One less NAB cup match makes us underprepared, don't expect us to catch up till about round three. 33% less hardened game practice would take its toll... Looked underdone to me.
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Re: A great effort but....
f*** I hate the AFL. A proper preparation and we MAY have run the game out. Fuckers!supersaints wrote:One less NAB cup match makes us underprepared, don't expect us to catch up till about round three. 33% less hardened game practice would take its toll... Looked underdone to me.
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Re: A great effort but....
Do we have anyone of the class of Robbie Gray, Wingard, Wines?
Maybe Billings will prove to be in that class, but can't think of any others in the under 26 age bracket....
I hope at the end of the year, we hold our top 5 pick and take the best available midfielder....we have guts and effort, we desperately need class.
Maybe Billings will prove to be in that class, but can't think of any others in the under 26 age bracket....
I hope at the end of the year, we hold our top 5 pick and take the best available midfielder....we have guts and effort, we desperately need class.
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Please, please stop blaming a missed practice march for our loss. What round do you think we will be back on level terms with the rest of the comp. Not ideal but spare me.
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Re: A great effort but....
This. We did WAY better than I had expected for 3 quarters and ran out of legs. Way too early to call the season one way or another.supersaints wrote:One less NAB cup match makes us underprepared, don't expect us to catch up till about round three. 33% less hardened game practice would take its toll... Looked underdone to me.
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Re: A great effort but....
I thought we showed some.... but not enoughfugazi wrote:we have guts and effort, we desperately need class.
Really think the home ground advantage kicked in
had this been at Etihad...
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You obviously do not understand the concept of match fitness..... anyway flame away at our pathetic performance8856brother wrote:Please, please stop blaming a missed practice march for our loss. What round do you think we will be back on level terms with the rest of the comp. Not ideal but spare me.
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Re: A great effort but....
What are you on about? Our performance for 2.5 qtrs was great. Since you are a fitness expert answer the question. What round will we be back on level terms. Or is our season ruined due to a missed practice match. They have been training for months ffs.Devilhead wrote:You obviously do not understand the concept of match fitness..... anyway flame away at our pathetic performance8856brother wrote:Please, please stop blaming a missed practice march for our loss. What round do you think we will be back on level terms with the rest of the comp. Not ideal but spare me.
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Re: A great effort but....
8856brother wrote:What are you on about? Our performance for 2.5 qtrs was great. Since you are a fitness expert answer the question. What round will we be back on level terms. Or is our season ruined due to a missed practice match. They have been training for months ffs.Devilhead wrote:You obviously do not understand the concept of match fitness..... anyway flame away at our pathetic performance8856brother wrote:Please, please stop blaming a missed practice march for our loss. What round do you think we will be back on level terms with the rest of the comp. Not ideal but spare me.
mate you have no understanding of preparing for athletic contests
there is a huge difference between running around at seaford and playing in a match situation
listen to any footballer and they will tell you how important it is
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Re: A great effort but....
Ok I give up. It was the cause of that 10 goal turn around and cost us the game. Our season is also probably rooted. How does one less player to rotate affect a side? What would footballers tell me about that?terry smith rules wrote:8856brother wrote:What are you on about? Our performance for 2.5 qtrs was great. Since you are a fitness expert answer the question. What round will we be back on level terms. Or is our season ruined due to a missed practice match. They have been training for months ffs.Devilhead wrote:You obviously do not understand the concept of match fitness..... anyway flame away at our pathetic performance8856brother wrote:Please, please stop blaming a missed practice march for our loss. What round do you think we will be back on level terms with the rest of the comp. Not ideal but spare me.
mate you have no understanding of preparing for athletic contests
there is a huge difference between running around at seaford and playing in a match situation
listen to any footballer and they will tell you how important it is
fqf
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Re: A great effort but....
Port outmatched us in the end with their bigger and more mature bodied players. It's just a matter of sports science. Even in the third quarter after they came back after our mini rampage, you could tell we were always going to be hard pressed to keep up the same intensity. The expressions of fatigue shown by our boys in the last quarter told the story.BigMart wrote:How can we explain a fade out like that...
On a brighter note, sports science also suggests that it is only a matter of time before our players will have a level of fitness and strength that Port demonstrated in that final quarter.
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Re: A great effort but....
Well i can tell you this8856brother wrote:Ok I give up. It was the cause of that 10 goal turn around and cost us the game. Our season is also probably rooted. How does one less player to rotate affect a side? What would footballers tell me about that?terry smith rules wrote:8856brother wrote:What are you on about? Our performance for 2.5 qtrs was great. Since you are a fitness expert answer the question. What round will we be back on level terms. Or is our season ruined due to a missed practice match. They have been training for months ffs.Devilhead wrote:You obviously do not understand the concept of match fitness..... anyway flame away at our pathetic performance8856brother wrote:Please, please stop blaming a missed practice march for our loss. What round do you think we will be back on level terms with the rest of the comp. Not ideal but spare me.
mate you have no understanding of preparing for athletic contests
there is a huge difference between running around at seaford and playing in a match situation
listen to any footballer and they will tell you how important it is
fqf
You gave votes to Ross who absolutley epitomised our fade out in the last quarter. dropped marks, tuened it over etc etc and I am not having a go at him he was great early but simply ran out of fitness.
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Re: A great effort but....
Yes they all did. Ross included. It was 22 v 21 for most of the match. I'm wondering why this wasn't a factor.
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Re: A great effort but....
Really enjoyed the game, apart from the final 15 minutes. Great to see the Port throng put in their box, especially in the third.
I thought we looked a tad under-done, but also put the result down to the difference between a team in their prime versus a team deep in development...there was a level of composure and hardness with the Port boys that we lacked. It will come during the season. Having said that, there were a few 'kicks in hope' to the forward line late in the first/early in the second, where better options were available and we really burnt the chance to be a further 3-4 goals up mid way through the second term.
Roo was a tad average by his lofty standards, yes, but was double teamed a few times and not awarded a great mark deep in the forward line at one stage, which should have resulted in a goal.
All in all, encouraging, if disappointing.
I thought we looked a tad under-done, but also put the result down to the difference between a team in their prime versus a team deep in development...there was a level of composure and hardness with the Port boys that we lacked. It will come during the season. Having said that, there were a few 'kicks in hope' to the forward line late in the first/early in the second, where better options were available and we really burnt the chance to be a further 3-4 goals up mid way through the second term.
Roo was a tad average by his lofty standards, yes, but was double teamed a few times and not awarded a great mark deep in the forward line at one stage, which should have resulted in a goal.
All in all, encouraging, if disappointing.
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Re: A great effort but....
The clear lack of match fitness was alarming.
Actually stopping for the three quarter time break hurt us. They couldn't get moving.
What can you say but hopefully they will be better for the run...
Actually stopping for the three quarter time break hurt us. They couldn't get moving.
What can you say but hopefully they will be better for the run...
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Re: A great effort but....
It started before 3qtr time... Bad signs 10 to go in the third
We ran out of legs, not because we missed one praccie game... We are not as fit as port.
Btw
Why does everyone think we put a team of kids on the park???
We hard plenty of match hardened players
We ran out of legs, not because we missed one praccie game... We are not as fit as port.
Btw
Why does everyone think we put a team of kids on the park???
We hard plenty of match hardened players
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Re: A great effort but....
Just for the record, sub-50 game players out there today:BigMart wrote:Btw
Why does everyone think we put a team of kids on the park???
We hard plenty of match hardened players
Hickey (41)
Templeton (12)
Ross (37)
Dunstan (35)
Acres (10)
Lonie (17)
Billings (25)
Gresham (0)
Bruce (46)
Webster (39)
Jake Neade (34)
Sam Gray (17)
Brendon Ah Chee (11)
Jarman Impey (35)
Jared Polec (45)
Re: A great effort but....
Hockey is 25
Ross is 23
Bruce is 23
5 or 6 year players
Webster is a 4th year player
Templeton, Acres, Billings, Dunstan
Are 3rd year players
Only two teenagers
We had 4 200+ game veterans
Ross is 23
Bruce is 23
5 or 6 year players
Webster is a 4th year player
Templeton, Acres, Billings, Dunstan
Are 3rd year players
Only two teenagers
We had 4 200+ game veterans