Carlisle "scandal"

[SemperFidelis]

The Hun has more info than the Age, who don't yet know much at all.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/j ... ksvnx.html

2 matches. Could have been worse, I suppose.

[SemperFidelis]

Club statement, with details plus an interview with our very own Flakey Jakey.*

(*Just watched it and it is what you would expect, I think, but nevertheless a good step forward to actually admit to having been a tool and apologise to us, the long suffering faithful).

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2015-11-0 ... -announced

Key bits:

"Following discussions between Jake Carlisle, his manager, St Kilda, the AFL and AFLPA, it was confirmed today that the 24-year-old has:

Volunteered to receive a detection under the AFL’s Illicit Drug Policy (IDP).
Forfeited his club marketing contract (ASA) of $50,000 in 2016 and agreed to further substantial variations of his playing contract.
Accepted a two-game AFL imposed home-and-away ban to start the season (with a four game suspended sentence for any further conduct unbecoming). He is permitted to play in the NAB Challenge and VFL.
Opted to commence training with St Kilda’s 1st - 4th year players this Monday, 9th November (two weeks ahead of his scheduled start date) and;
Undertaken to engage with a leading Alcohol & Drug Rehabilitation Program to understand the implications of glamorising drug use."

[fugazi]

Onwards and upwards

[oh when the]

Carlisle sanctions announced
Following discussions between Jake Carlisle, his manager, St Kilda, the AFL and AFLPA, it was confirmed today that the 24-year-old has:
• Volunteered to receive a detection under the AFL’s Illicit Drug Policy (IDP).
• Forfeited his club marketing contract (ASA) of $50,000 in 2016 and agreed to further substantial variations of his playing contract.
• Accepted a two-game AFL imposed home-and-away ban to start the season (with a four game suspended sentence for any further conduct unbecoming). He is permitted to play in the NAB Challenge and VFL.
• Opted to commence training with St Kilda’s 1st - 4th year players this Monday, 9th November (two weeks ahead of his scheduled start date) and;
• Undertaken to engage with a leading Alcohol & Drug Rehabilitation Program to understand the implications of glamorising drug use.
St Kilda senior coach Alan Richardson said Carlisle fronted the player leadership group and senior staff earlier this week to discuss how he can secure the trust and confidence of the club and wider football community.
He said the meeting had been appropriately confronting and Carlisle was left in no doubt as to the club leaders’ frustration and disappointment with his conduct which occurred prior to him signing with the Saints.
WATCH: Jake speaks after meeting with leadership group.
“This has become a very costly mistake for Jake and he clearly commences his career at St Kilda on notice that such behaviour will not be tolerated,” Richardson said.
“It’s the worst possible way to start at a new club and he was given very honest and direct feedback about the standards expected of him.
“To his credit, Jake has taken responsibility for his behaviour and has taken ownership of these sanctions which are important steps in him integrating as a Saints player.
“He now needs to work hard and buy into the culture and standards we are building. He needs to commit to making our people proud on and off the field.”
CEO Matt Finnis said while Jake was not a St Kilda player when the incident occurred, he was one by the time it was revealed and will be into the future.
“It’s a unique situation and one that we have strived to manage in an open, honest and professional manner,” Finnis said.
“We believe we have reached an outcome today that sends a very loud message to both Jake and the community that we do not condone his behaviour while still giving him the best chance to succeed moving forward.”
St Kilda captain Nick Riewoldt took part in this week’s discussion by phone from Texas and said the leadership group was frustrated and angry but welcomed the chance to clear the air with Carlisle.
“We have come so far as a club and we will not let this incident divert us,” Riewoldt said.
“Jake admitted he made a mistake and that’s important. The leadership group will now back ourselves to get the best out of him as both a player and person and support his efforts to win the confidence of the broader playing group and our fans.”

[saintbrat]

Richo on SEN now or shortly

[CURLY]

What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

[kosifantutti]

I was actually impressed with his interview.

Obviously it was well rehearsed but he he sounded reasonably intelligent.

[saintbrat]

Richo on SEN now or shortly

And
AW at 6.10 pm

[magnifisaint]

What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

That's life. You really can't please everybody

[loris]

What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

Isn't it an AFL imposed ban? Saints, Alfpa & Carlilse have agreed to it - so more the ban is AFL imposed for bring game into disrepute, not so much the Saints club.

Has got off lighty IMHO?

How long did that little Geelong aboriginal player serve a couple of seasons ago........ more than 2 weeks if I remember correctly and he didn't even use, just got the drugs in for his family members who were visiting him. And wasn't it Geelong that imposed the ban on him and the AFL agreed their ban was sound punishment.. Also didn't Geelong ban Stevie J for about 6 weeks for an alcohol incident. So I think the Flakey one has got off quite sweetly - if he was a Geelong player I think he'd be given a lot more IMHO

[saintbrat]

Richo on SEN now or shortly

[Bunk_Moreland]

What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

Not a joke, Does not deserve to play in Roo's 300.

After that we all get around him

[CURLY]

What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

Not a joke, Does not deserve to play in Roo's 300.

After that we all get around him

bulls*** he can help us win the game.

[bigcarl]

What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

I reckon its an AFL-imposed ban. I agree, though, it's ridiculous that St Kilda is facing any further penalties for this fiasco.

[CURLY]

What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

I reckon its an AFL-imposed ban. I agree, though, it's ridiculous that St Kilda is facing any further penalties for this fiasco.

Correct we pay the price and he wasn't our player.

[Enrico_Misso]

I was actually impressed with his interview.

Obviously it was well rehearsed but he he sounded reasonably intelligent.

Intelligence is NOT a Carlisle attribute!

[saintbrat]

3AW Sports Today ‏@3AWSportsToday
Mick Warner: 'As I understand it, Carlisle needs to play 15 games a year to hit the $600k contract'

[older saint]

Agree with it, however if he was to get a positive strike , as many have before, they would receive no penalty? Shows the massive holes in the AFL drug policy.

[saintspremiers]

Happy he will miss Roo's 300th. And if Roo misses a game and its the following week I want him to miss that game also

[older saint]

Agree with it, however if he was to get a positive strike , as many have before, they would receive no penalty? Shows the massive holes in the AFL drug policy.

[Bunk_Moreland]

What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

Not a joke, Does not deserve to play in Roo's 300.

After that we all get around him

bulls*** he can help us win the game.

Cant now. No point carrying on about it

[Bunk_Moreland]

Agree with it, however if he was to get a positive strike , as many have before, they would receive no penalty? Shows the massive holes in the AFL drug policy.

Put it down to a stupidity sanction.

Its an AFL sanction for bringing the game into disrepute.

No arguing that. Snorting coke on SnapChat. Lucky to only get two.

[desertsaint]

3AW Sports Today ‏@3AWSportsToday
Mick Warner: 'As I understand it, Carlisle needs to play 15 games a year to hit the $600k contract'

should be changed to 21 in 2016!

[HitTheBoundary]

What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

I reckon its an AFL-imposed ban. I agree, though, it's ridiculous that St Kilda is facing any further penalties for this fiasco.

Correct we pay the price and he wasn't our player.

I blame the umpires.

[Saints43]

It's bulls*** that St Kilda get punished in any way.
What have we done wrong?