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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

Post: # 1586242Post bergsone »

Who have we actually got,signed,sealed and delivered yet?


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bergsone wrote:Who have we actually got,signed,sealed and delivered yet?
Freeman for second round 2016 is done


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ripplug66 wrote:
jaxons wrote:
He will not get a look in next year at Freo, as Ross doesn't play kids and there are 7-8 mids with bigger bodies in front of him and he wants to play with Saints.
If not next year will be the following year.
So he got 3 games this year but wont get a look in next year? I'm not sure about that. My daughter is friends of Mav's girlfriend and she said he is happy at Freo and they are very happy with him. maybe she made it up but I will trust her on this.
Not sure your runs on your board make a dent in Jaxsons....I'm goin with Jaxons on this plugs...just saying
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The Recruit wrote:
ripplug66 wrote:
jaxons wrote:
He will not get a look in next year at Freo, as Ross doesn't play kids and there are 7-8 mids with bigger bodies in front of him and he wants to play with Saints.
If not next year will be the following year.
So he got 3 games this year but wont get a look in next year? I'm not sure about that. My daughter is friends of Mav's girlfriend and she said he is happy at Freo and they are very happy with him. maybe she made it up but I will trust her on this.
Not sure your runs on your board make a dent in Jaxsons....I'm goin with Jaxsons on this plugs...just saying
Jaxon's theory sounds the more plausible of these 2 opinions. Time will tell.


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Post: # 1586258Post Jacks Back »

Rocket wrote:So we give 5 to Freo in return for Weller and their 2016 first rounder.

We give Essendon 23 and 2016 first rounder for Carlisle.
Geez I hope not. I certainly hope we finish higher up the ladder next year but if we stay the same then we are still giving up pick 5 - only giving it to them next year. NO LOW PICKS FOR CARLISLE PLEASE!!


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Wayne42 wrote:
The Recruit wrote:
ripplug66 wrote:
jaxons wrote:
He will not get a look in next year at Freo, as Ross doesn't play kids and there are 7-8 mids with bigger bodies in front of him and he wants to play with Saints.
If not next year will be the following year.
So he got 3 games this year but wont get a look in next year? I'm not sure about that. My daughter is friends of Mav's girlfriend and she said he is happy at Freo and they are very happy with him. maybe she made it up but I will trust her on this.
Not sure your runs on your board make a dent in Jaxsons....I'm goin with Jaxsons on this plugs...just saying
Jaxon's theory sounds the more plausible of these 2 opinions. Time will tell.
Why wouldn't we go for the bigger bodied mids then. Why are we going for the skinny short arse kids all the frickin time?


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Ross = big body
Acres = Will have a big body.


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I want Weller 100x's over Carlisle its not funny.

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Trade Wrap: Dockers won't trade players to land McCarthy, plus more on Yarran and Aish

It was suggested at the weekend that Fremantle could attempt to trade a player to a third club and then on-trade that pick to the Giants as part of the McCarthy deal, but sources also dismissed that option.

Midfielders Lachie Weller and Michael Barlow were floated as options in this scenario over the weekend, but AFL.com.au understands neither would be traded, with Weller rated particularly highly by the club.

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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-18/t ... d-mccarthy


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Playon wrote:Trade Wrap: Dockers won't trade players to land McCarthy, plus more on Yarran and Aish

It was suggested at the weekend that Fremantle could attempt to trade a player to a third club and then on-trade that pick to the Giants as part of the McCarthy deal, but sources also dismissed that option.

Midfielders Lachie Weller and Michael Barlow were floated as options in this scenario over the weekend, but AFL.com.au understands neither would be traded, with Weller rated particularly highly by the club.

More at
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-18/t ... d-mccarthy
Freo are moronic if they dont land McCarthy. Would be an epic fail.
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Post: # 1586273Post Playon »

Well their strategy is to wait and hope they change their minds. I dont think its going to work.

If were keen on Weller, theres always next year.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
Playon wrote:Trade Wrap: Dockers won't trade players to land McCarthy, plus more on Yarran and Aish

It was suggested at the weekend that Fremantle could attempt to trade a player to a third club and then on-trade that pick to the Giants as part of the McCarthy deal, but sources also dismissed that option.

Midfielders Lachie Weller and Michael Barlow were floated as options in this scenario over the weekend, but AFL.com.au understands neither would be traded, with Weller rated particularly highly by the club.

More at
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-18/t ... d-mccarthy
Freo are moronic if they dont land McCarthy. Would be an epic fail.

He has 2 years to go in his contract. If GWS say no way then its no way no matter what club chases him. Its not like he has one year left. He has done 33% of his contract.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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The Recruit wrote:
ripplug66 wrote:
jaxons wrote:
He will not get a look in next year at Freo, as Ross doesn't play kids and there are 7-8 mids with bigger bodies in front of him and he wants to play with Saints.
If not next year will be the following year.
So he got 3 games this year but wont get a look in next year? I'm not sure about that. My daughter is friends of Mav's girlfriend and she said he is happy at Freo and they are very happy with him. maybe she made it up but I will trust her on this.
Not sure your runs on your board make a dent in Jaxsons....I'm goin with Jaxons on this plugs...just saying
And what other things have I said that have been right or wrong? Funny that the last thing out of this is Freo wont be trading players to land McCarthy. Jaxons like people on BF have contacts no doubt. To think they are involved in trades and then come on here and tell people makes no sense at all considering the lengths clubs go to to keep things secret. I believe most of what they say has already been said or is common sense or as I said they do hear things. Lets face it their therioes chance all the time so you will find something they has said will be right eventually. I said Freeman for a second rounder. No inside knowledge just complete common sense based on being a pick 10 previously. If you don't want to believe me then fine. No skin off my nose even though its big enough to lose some skin.
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AFL trade period 2015: Sydney Swans step into Jake Carlisle trade talks

Sydney's first-round pick has become the latest bargaining chip in negotiations between Essendon and St Kilda over Jake Carlisle.

The Swans would be prepared to help the deadlock if it would allow the club to turn their No. 14 pick (worth 1161 points on the draft value index) into multiple selections, or extra draft points.

The three clubs have begun exploring a trade that in essence would see Sydney switch pick 14 for St Kilda's pick 24 and another selection or two. The Saints would then send pick five to Essendon for Carlisle.
Jake Carlisle during an Essendon recovery session at St Kilda Sea Baths.

Jake Carlisle during an Essendon recovery session at St Kilda Sea Baths. Photo: Pat Scala

The problem is that Essendon's third round pick is not sufficient compensation for the Swans, with Sydney only willing to move pick 14 if it receives an adequate number of points.

Trading pick 14 for picks 24 and pick 44 (the Bombers' third round pick) would see the Swans lose, not gain, points. The Bombers have so far not been willing to give up either pick 23 or 25.

Swans Academy player Callum Mills is considered by some clubs to be a top three prospect, and accessing more points would enable the Swans to match a high bid for him more easily.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-an ... -20151019-


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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-20/t ... lisle-deal

The Swans are keen to take more draft points to next month's national draft in Adelaide, and could be willing to part with pick 14 in exchange for St Kilda's pick 24 and possibly one of Essendon's second or third-round picks.

The Swans would need to receive more points than their current 1161 for pick 14 – helping them bid for academy star Callum Mills and potentially father-son Josh Dunkley - to buy into the deal.

With another first-round pick in hand, it would mean the Saints would finally be willing to part with pick No.5 in a swap for Carlisle.

There is still the chance St Kilda and the Bombers can find a solution without involving a third party, but the Herald Sun reports the circling Hawks are prepared to restructure their player payments to fit Carlisle under their salary cap.


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Post: # 1586283Post Playon »

So does this equal 5 + 24 for Carlsile and 14?

Not that great,

Hopefully Carlisle comes out today and says Trade me to the Saints or I'm going to the PSD


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The Saints seem very reluctant to push the PSD line, have they given Carlisle a guarantee that they won't make him go through the PSD?


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derby Street wrote:The Saints seem very reluctant to push the PSD line, have they given Carlisle a guarantee that they won't make him go through the PSD?
It does seem odd that we haven't used this ultimate leverage as if Essendon really believed that Carlisle was prepared to go into PSD , they would accept our offers.


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The seagulls are hovering

Hawthorn would be prepared to restructure its player payments to fit in Jake Carlisle as Essendon stands firm on its trade demands.

The Hawks remain keen on Carlisle and will attempt to zero in if the Saints and Bombers cannot agree to a deal by Thursday afternoon.

The reigning premiers privately are confident Carlisle has not ruled out Waverley as a new home next season.


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longtimesaint wrote:
derby Street wrote:The Saints seem very reluctant to push the PSD line, have they given Carlisle a guarantee that they won't make him go through the PSD?
It does seem odd that we haven't used this ultimate leverage as if Essendon really believed that Carlisle was prepared to go into PSD , they would accept our offers.
The problem is that he hasn't said he'll go to the PDS so we can't use that as leverage. He said he only wants to play for the Saints which isn't quite the same thing.
Then with him mentioning the Hawks, hasn't helped a trade get done

Dildo will keep pushing this as long as he believes it.

The other thing is the club wants to be seen as able to get deals done

Perhaps the meeting with Carlisle's manager last night will produce something.

GWS wont trade 8 for 2nd rounders, so it may end up as 5 for Carlisle and 23 or 25, they've already offered Carlisle and 3rd for 5 so may go more


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Playon wrote:AFL trade period 2015: Sydney Swans step into Jake Carlisle trade talks

Sydney's first-round pick has become the latest bargaining chip in negotiations between Essendon and St Kilda over Jake Carlisle.

The Swans would be prepared to help the deadlock if it would allow the club to turn their No. 14 pick (worth 1161 points on the draft value index) into multiple selections, or extra draft points.

The three clubs have begun exploring a trade that in essence would see Sydney switch pick 14 for St Kilda's pick 24 and another selection or two. The Saints would then send pick five to Essendon for Carlisle.
Jake Carlisle during an Essendon recovery session at St Kilda Sea Baths.

Jake Carlisle during an Essendon recovery session at St Kilda Sea Baths. Photo: Pat Scala

The problem is that Essendon's third round pick is not sufficient compensation for the Swans, with Sydney only willing to move pick 14 if it receives an adequate number of points.

Trading pick 14 for picks 24 and pick 44 (the Bombers' third round pick) would see the Swans lose, not gain, points. The Bombers have so far not been willing to give up either pick 23 or 25.

Swans Academy player Callum Mills is considered by some clubs to be a top three prospect, and accessing more points would enable the Swans to match a high bid for him more easily.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-an ... -20151019-
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Post: # 1586318Post jaxons »

Freeman trade done.
The Magpies will receive our second round pick in next year’s draft and selection No.63 in this year’s draft in exchange for Freeman and pick No.68.


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jaxons wrote:Freeman trade done.
The Magpies will receive our second round pick in next year’s draft and selection No.63 in this year’s draft in exchange for Freeman and pick No.68.
Nice one...

Thanks for the update.


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Post: # 1586321Post magnifisaint »

So rather than rely on those numpties at BigFooty how is the Carlisle trade going?


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jaxons wrote:Freeman trade done.
The Magpies will receive our second round pick in next year’s draft and selection No.63 in this year’s draft in exchange for Freeman and pick No.68.
Cheers jaxsons,

Any chance at all Carlisle will go through the PSD ?


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