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Post: # 1578611Post Con Gorozidis »

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/t ... -for-trade

ADAM Treloar will inform Greater Western Sydney on Tuesday that he wants to be traded, with the out-of-contract midfield star set to nominate Collingwood as his preferred new home.


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Post: # 1578616Post remboy »

Let me guess. The Pies offer their 7th pick, GWS turn it down, Treloar says he'll quit footy if they don't agree, he gets to Collingwood for a jumbo pack of chips and a family pack of bite size snickers bars.


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Post: # 1578618Post CURLY »

Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.


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Post: # 1578663Post Armoooo »

CURLY wrote:Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.
Taylor Adams
Pat Karnezis
Luke Ball
Darren Jolly
Paul Mediums
Levi greenwood

Am I missing someone?

Compare that list of names to
Gunstan, Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Gibson, Mcevoy, Hale

Franklin, Tippett

Dal Santo, Waite, Higgins

I don't see how Collingwood have really benefitted more than any other club.

Hell look at the players St Kilda have either poached or picked up unopposed in the last few years

Savage, Roberton, Weller, Longer, Hickey, Bruce, Membrey... Probably pretty close to the collingwood list already.


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Post: # 1578669Post Devilhead »

When did Saintsational become a Collingwood forum?? :shock:


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Post: # 1578705Post dragit »

Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Treloar, Adams, Elliott, Kennedy, Scharenberg, Crisp, Karnezis, De Goey

They are building a serious young midfield, we are miles behind that at the moment.


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Post: # 1578714Post SainterK »

dragit wrote:Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Treloar, Adams, Elliott, Kennedy, Scharenberg, Crisp, Karnezis, De Goey

They are building a serious young midfield, we are miles behind that at the moment.
Fair call...we appear very KPP and half back orientated


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Post: # 1578734Post CURLY »

Armoooo wrote:
CURLY wrote:Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.
Taylor Adams
Pat Karnezis
Luke Ball
Darren Jolly
Paul Mediums
Levi greenwood

Am I missing someone?

Compare that list of names to
Gunstan, Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Gibson, Mcevoy, Hale

Franklin, Tippett

Dal Santo, Waite, Higgins

I don't see how Collingwood have really benefitted more than any other club.

Hell look at the players St Kilda have either poached or picked up unopposed in the last few years

Savage, Roberton, Weller, Longer, Hickey, Bruce, Membrey... Probably pretty close to the collingwood list already.

Cloke 850k
Pendlebury 850k
Reid 650k
Adams 500k
Treloar 750k
Sidebottom 600k
Greenwood 450k
Elliot 500k


I doubt anyone on the list of Saints is on more than 350k.


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Post: # 1578752Post Armoooo »

CURLY wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
CURLY wrote:Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.
Taylor Adams
Pat Karnezis
Luke Ball
Darren Jolly
Paul Mediums
Levi greenwood

Am I missing someone?

Compare that list of names to
Gunstan, Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Gibson, Mcevoy, Hale

Franklin, Tippett

Dal Santo, Waite, Higgins

I don't see how Collingwood have really benefitted more than any other club.

Hell look at the players St Kilda have either poached or picked up unopposed in the last few years

Savage, Roberton, Weller, Longer, Hickey, Bruce, Membrey... Probably pretty close to the collingwood list already.

Cloke 850k
Pendlebury 850k
Reid 650k
Adams 500k
Treloar 750k
Sidebottom 600k
Greenwood 450k
Elliot 500k


I doubt anyone on the list of Saints is on more than 350k.
They drafted Cloke, Pendlebury, Reid, Sidebottom and traded picked up Elliot the same way we picked up Saad and Milera.

What on Earth is your point... how much do you think Riewoldt, Fisher, Armitage and Steven are on?

Collingwood should have plenty of salary cap space, because if they don't it means that they are significantly overpaying a team well behind the pack, especially considering they are one of the younger sides about.


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Post: # 1578755Post Life Long Saint »

CURLY wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
CURLY wrote:Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.
Taylor Adams
Pat Karnezis
Luke Ball
Darren Jolly
Paul Mediums
Levi greenwood

Am I missing someone?

Compare that list of names to
Gunstan, Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Gibson, Mcevoy, Hale

Franklin, Tippett

Dal Santo, Waite, Higgins

I don't see how Collingwood have really benefitted more than any other club.

Hell look at the players St Kilda have either poached or picked up unopposed in the last few years

Savage, Roberton, Weller, Longer, Hickey, Bruce, Membrey... Probably pretty close to the collingwood list already.

Cloke 850k
Pendlebury 850k
Reid 650k
Adams 500k
Treloar 750k
Sidebottom 600k
Greenwood 450k
Elliot 500k


I doubt anyone on the list of Saints is on more than 350k.
You forgot Swan...He'd be on a pretty penny and White would not have been cheap.


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Post: # 1578756Post CURLY »

Armoooo wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
CURLY wrote:Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.
Taylor Adams
Pat Karnezis
Luke Ball
Darren Jolly
Paul Mediums
Levi greenwood

Am I missing someone?

Compare that list of names to
Gunstan, Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Gibson, Mcevoy, Hale

Franklin, Tippett

Dal Santo, Waite, Higgins

I don't see how Collingwood have really benefitted more than any other club.

Hell look at the players St Kilda have either poached or picked up unopposed in the last few years

Savage, Roberton, Weller, Longer, Hickey, Bruce, Membrey... Probably pretty close to the collingwood list already.

Cloke 850k
Pendlebury 850k
Reid 650k
Adams 500k
Treloar 750k
Sidebottom 600k
Greenwood 450k
Elliot 500k


I doubt anyone on the list of Saints is on more than 350k.
They drafted Cloke, Pendlebury, Reid, Sidebottom and traded picked up Elliot the same way we picked up Saad and Milera.

What on Earth is your point... how much do you think Riewoldt, Fisher, Armitage and Steven are on?

Collingwood should have plenty of salary cap space, because if they don't it means that they are significantly overpaying a team well behind the pack, especially considering they are one of the younger sides about.
Im saying they have some pretty top end of the scale players payment wise.


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Post: # 1578798Post plugger66 »

CURLY wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
CURLY wrote:Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.
Taylor Adams
Pat Karnezis
Luke Ball
Darren Jolly
Paul Mediums
Levi greenwood

Am I missing someone?

Compare that list of names to
Gunstan, Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Gibson, Mcevoy, Hale

Franklin, Tippett

Dal Santo, Waite, Higgins

I don't see how Collingwood have really benefitted more than any other club.

Hell look at the players St Kilda have either poached or picked up unopposed in the last few years

Savage, Roberton, Weller, Longer, Hickey, Bruce, Membrey... Probably pretty close to the collingwood list already.

Cloke 850k
Pendlebury 850k
Reid 650k
Adams 500k
Treloar 750k
Sidebottom 600k
Greenwood 450k
Elliot 500k


I doubt anyone on the list of Saints is on more than 350k.
Without being rude Curly your last comment is so far off the mark. It has been reported Steven is getting 700k next season so Armo would be close to that. Roo would be on a bit more than that. Dempster and Fisher would be on close to 400 to 500K. If what you said was true we wouldn't be paying 70% of our cap.


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Post: # 1578806Post CURLY »

plugger66 wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
CURLY wrote:Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.
Taylor Adams
Pat Karnezis
Luke Ball
Darren Jolly
Paul Mediums
Levi greenwood

Am I missing someone?

Compare that list of names to
Gunstan, Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Gibson, Mcevoy, Hale

Franklin, Tippett

Dal Santo, Waite, Higgins

I don't see how Collingwood have really benefitted more than any other club.

Hell look at the players St Kilda have either poached or picked up unopposed in the last few years

Savage, Roberton, Weller, Longer, Hickey, Bruce, Membrey... Probably pretty close to the collingwood list already.

Cloke 850k
Pendlebury 850k
Reid 650k
Adams 500k
Treloar 750k
Sidebottom 600k
Greenwood 450k
Elliot 500k


I doubt anyone on the list of Saints is on more than 350k.
Without being rude Curly your last comment is so far off the mark. It has been reported Steven is getting 700k next season so Armo would be close to that. Roo would be on a bit more than that. Dempster and Fisher would be on close to 400 to 500K. If what you said was true we wouldn't be paying 70% of our cap.
I was refering to the list of Saints players that we had got to the club Roberton Weller Membury Savage etc


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Post: # 1578807Post plugger66 »

CURLY wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
CURLY wrote:Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.
Taylor Adams
Pat Karnezis
Luke Ball
Darren Jolly
Paul Mediums
Levi greenwood

Am I missing someone?

Compare that list of names to
Gunstan, Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Gibson, Mcevoy, Hale

Franklin, Tippett

Dal Santo, Waite, Higgins

I don't see how Collingwood have really benefitted more than any other club.

Hell look at the players St Kilda have either poached or picked up unopposed in the last few years

Savage, Roberton, Weller, Longer, Hickey, Bruce, Membrey... Probably pretty close to the collingwood list already.

Cloke 850k
Pendlebury 850k
Reid 650k
Adams 500k
Treloar 750k
Sidebottom 600k
Greenwood 450k
Elliot 500k


I doubt anyone on the list of Saints is on more than 350k.
Without being rude Curly your last comment is so far off the mark. It has been reported Steven is getting 700k next season so Armo would be close to that. Roo would be on a bit more than that. Dempster and Fisher would be on close to 400 to 500K. If what you said was true we wouldn't be paying 70% of our cap.
I was refering to the list of Saints players that we had got to the club Roberton Weller Membury Savage etc

Ok sorry. I agree. Roberton will be at his contract and so will Bruce.


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Post: # 1578811Post Con Gorozidis »

Life Long Saint wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
CURLY wrote:Eddie pisses and moans about Sydney having a endless cap all the while Collingwood are still grabbing big priced players.
Taylor Adams
Pat Karnezis
Luke Ball
Darren Jolly
Paul Mediums
Levi greenwood

Am I missing someone?

Compare that list of names to
Gunstan, Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Gibson, Mcevoy, Hale

Franklin, Tippett

Dal Santo, Waite, Higgins

I don't see how Collingwood have really benefitted more than any other club.

Hell look at the players St Kilda have either poached or picked up unopposed in the last few years

Savage, Roberton, Weller, Longer, Hickey, Bruce, Membrey... Probably pretty close to the collingwood list already.

Cloke 850k
Pendlebury 850k
Reid 650k
Adams 500k
Treloar 750k
Sidebottom 600k
Greenwood 450k
Elliot 500k


I doubt anyone on the list of Saints is on more than 350k.
You forgot Swan...He'd be on a pretty penny and Jesse White would not have been cheap.
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Post: # 1578815Post Con Gorozidis »

We must have plenty of room in our cap to accommodate a few players. Once you take Fisher Montagna Roo and Dempster out we will have a gaping hole in our cap. Too much to fill in one year. Thats why I think we need to be already looking at getting in some players. I dont understand this FA in 2017 strategy. That wont work with our SC. Unless we pay that one player in 2017 $2 million a year. I assume Fisher would be on way less next year.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:We must have plenty of room in our cap to accommodate a few players. Once you take Fisher Montagna Roo and Dempster out we will have a gaping hole in our cap. Too much to fill in one year. Thats why I think we need to be already looking at getting in some players. I dont understand this FA in 2017 strategy. That wont work with our SC. Unless we pay that one player in 2017 $2 million a year. I assume Fisher would be on way less next year.

I reckon Fisher gets about 400K next season. The reason I don't want a FA yet is because we probably would have to overpay that player to get him and that could upset some players especially as we aren't in the window. Players wont care as much if that player can win you a flag. A FA now is very unlikely to be around to win is a flag. The other thing you can do now is bank 5% of our cap for the following year. Maybe an overpayed FA would stop us doing that. Id rather front load our guys to get to 95% and then attack a FA when the window is open.


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I assume Steven contract, and other similar new contracts, will be constructed in such a way that they will fill some of that gaping hole when the oldies retire. It really doesn't do any good to be paying anyone over their value.


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FQF wrote:I assume Steven contract, and other similar new contracts, will be constructed in such a way that they will fill some of that gaping hole when the oldies retire. It really doesn't do any good to be paying anyone over their value.

As long as its true value for the length of the contract I don't see an issue.


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plugger66 wrote:
FQF wrote:I assume Steven contract, and other similar new contracts, will be constructed in such a way that they will fill some of that gaping hole when the oldies retire. It really doesn't do any good to be paying anyone over their value.

As long as its true value for the length of the contract I don't see an issue.
Agree. Seeing as there is a minimum salary cap, it is important that every contract is weighted so that at no point are we having to overpay anyone. Thus, Steven may be paid 600k in 2016, 800k in 2017, 900k in 2018, 600k in 2019 and 400k in 2020. Anyway, I have no doubt that the club is totally on top of this sort of thing, it's bread and butter stuff for a footy administration these days.


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plugger66 wrote:The reason I don't want a FA yet is because we probably would have to overpay that player to get him and that could upset some players especially as we aren't in the window. Players wont care as much if that player can win you a flag. A FA now is very unlikely to be around to win is a flag. The other thing you can do now is bank 5% of our cap for the following year. Maybe an overpayed FA would stop us doing that. Id rather front load our guys to get to 95% and then attack a FA when the window is open.
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Post: # 1579067Post Con Gorozidis »

I think its hard to make a call on FA unless we know the full detail of how our list payments are structured...


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4 million the HS is saying
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