HARLEY BENNELL

[coopergrech]

Reported by Damian Barrett, on the footy show that the Saints are strongly inquiring about Harley Bennell, would be a great pick up , but his attitude is a huge factor, if we were to get him hopefully not another Andrew Lovett!

[No77778]

What would he cost does anyone know?

[FQF]

What would he cost does anyone know?

In terms of a trade? I reckon at minimum a second rounder and a top 18 player. Someone like Webster, Dunstan, Sinclair, Ross - basically, not cheap.

[gringo]

One of the big footy posters said we are looking at getting a big name player in. Perhaps could be the one who is high profile. It would be nice to have an indigenous player in our colours again. He's a gun but obviously need to make sure he's not troubled still.

[Con Gorozidis]

Reported by Damian Barrett, on the footy show that the Saints are strongly inquiring about Harley Bennell, would be a great pick up , but his attitude is a huge factor, if we were to get him hopefully not another Andrew Lovett!

Oh great. Comparing him to Lovett based on his race. Nice start.
Why not compare him to Ben Cousins? I think Harley was caught doing lines of speed 3 years ago? Lovett left the club because of a sexual assault, not drugs or attitude. So fairly ordinary comparison.
Anyway - of course we should be interested. Jesus. He is ideal for us. 22 is a perfect age. If we cant create an environment to keep him in line then we dont deserve to win a flag. You dont win a flag with a team of choir boys (I think Alan Jeans said that).

[Enrico_Misso]

Is this the Ben Cousins argument all over again?
(We dodged a bullet there).

[Con Gorozidis]

What would he cost does anyone know?

This, my friend, is THE question!
A fair bit you would think. I am not sure how we would get it done.

[FQF]

Is this the Ben Cousins argument all over again?
(We dodged a bullet there).

Cousins was what 30 years old when he joined Richmond and was suffering from serious drug addiction. Bennell is 22 years old and got snapped taking party drugs. The parallels do not run very deep whatsoever.

(FWIW we probably would have snagged a flag if we picked up Cousins too.)

[Con Gorozidis]

Is this the Ben Cousins argument all over again?
(We dodged a bullet there).

Except about ten years younger. Whole different argument if Ben was 22, and not 30, slow and injured like when he went to the Tiges.
I also think Ben's problems were much much worse. Ben got away with way too much for too long and had success on field.
Id like to think Harley's issues have been nipped in the bud a lot sooner.
Comparing apples to oranges I think.

[Teflon]

I too think we should've taken cousins but let's not go there again for gods sake

[Con Gorozidis]

I too think we should've taken cousins but let's not go there again for gods sake

Cousins was old, slow and injured (his hammies were terrible) at that stage and also probably a drug addict.
Just a ridiculous comparison imo.
If we cant get this kid on track - we dont deserve to win a flag. We arent going to win one if we play it safe on every single decision.
We will need to take some calculated risks.

But yeah - look we didnt need much to win that flag. Cousins may have been enough to get us there.

[Teflon]

I too think we should've taken cousins but let's not go there again for gods sake

Cousins was old, slow and injured at that stage and also probably a drug addict.
Just a ridiculous comparison imo.
If we cant get this kid on track - we dont deserve to win a flag. We arent going to win one if we play it safe on every single decision.
We will need to take some calculated risks.

Cousins did play some good footy at Tiges and still racked up good possessions per game and used it well..... but others probably know best I mean he was no "Mqualter or Eddy"....

[Con Gorozidis]

I too think we should've taken cousins but let's not go there again for gods sake

Cousins was old, slow and injured at that stage and also probably a drug addict.
Just a ridiculous comparison imo.
If we cant get this kid on track - we dont deserve to win a flag. We arent going to win one if we play it safe on every single decision.
We will need to take some calculated risks.

Cousins did play some good footy at Tiges and still racked up good possessions per game and used it well..... but others probably know best I mean he was no "Mqualter or Eddy"....

He was ok at the Tiges but that is because he was a frickin good footballer and good enough to go around at 50% of his power. His hamstrings started going in 2007 and he got gradually slower and a shorter kick from thereon.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/su ... 1114372873

I think maybe we are forgetting just how good Cousins was when he was young. He was absolutely dynamic.

[Con Gorozidis]

I dont want to exaggerate it - but id say there are a few AFL players who have had the odd line here and there. It is a shame HB got photographed doing it, and he is by no means an angel, but lets also not exaggerate and make out hes the worst bloke in the world either.

[Armoooo]

What would he cost does anyone know?

In terms of a trade? I reckon at minimum a second rounder and a top 18 player. Someone like Webster, Dunstan, Sinclair, Ross - basically, not cheap.

Don't even joke about trading Webster!!

A 2nd and Ross I would do in a heartbeat but surely the suns wouldn't.

[FQF]

What are people's thoughts on a trade involving our pick 5/6? You'd think that would almost get it done.

[Con Gorozidis]

What are people's thoughts on a trade involving our pick 5/6? You'd think that would almost get it done.

Tough question. To me it depends on the two top NSW boys. If they are removed from the draft (highly likely) then our pick may not be that flash anyway - in which case - Id take Bennell in a heartbeat.
If both Hopper and Mills are still in the draft (very unlikely) - then maybe stick to the draft.

[whiskers3614]

Did not want
Lovett
Fevola
Dustin Martin
and definitely don't want this bloke.

Our own idiots are one thing, probably didn't know their vices when we got them.
You would probably use a slightly cracked egg from your fridge, you certainly wouldn't KNOWINGLY purchase same!

[SuperDuper]

What are people's thoughts on a trade involving our pick 5/6? You'd think that would almost get it done.

Tough question. To me it depends on the two top NSW boys. If they are removed from the draft (highly likely) then our pick may not be that flash anyway - in which case - Id take Bennell for sure.
If both Hopper or Mills are still in the draft (unlikely) - then maybe stick to the draft.

5/6 for bennell is a good deal IMO, if he is a decent bloke.. i.e. if he going to be working hard

The guy is a gun, only 22 years old.... has not yet played his best footy

Not the only young AFL player to ever have a line of coke...
I dont know of his reputation outside that..

[Con Gorozidis]

What are people's thoughts on a trade involving our pick 5/6? You'd think that would almost get it done.

Tough question. To me it depends on the two top NSW boys. If they are removed from the draft (highly likely) then our pick may not be that flash anyway - in which case - Id take Bennell for sure.
If both Hopper or Mills are still in the draft (unlikely) - then maybe stick to the draft.

5/6 for bennell is a good deal IMO, if he is a decent bloke.. i.e. if he going to be working hard

The guy is a gun, only 22 years old.... has not yet played his best footy

Not the only young AFL player to ever have a line of coke...
I dont know of his reputation outside that..

Yep. And if he has already played 79 games at 22 years of age he must be fairly disciplined. You dont get to 79 AFL games being a yobbo, thats for sure. Quite a lot of good games in those 79 too.

[Con Gorozidis]

Did not want
Lovett
Fevola
Dustin Martin
and definitely don't want this bloke.

Our own idiots are one thing, probably didn't know their vices when we got them.
You would probably use a slightly cracked egg from your fridge, you certainly wouldn't KNOWINGLY purchase same!

Weird comparisons. Not sure what they have got in common really apart from you thinking they are dickheads?
And is Martin that bad? He seems fairly consistent if you ask me. I am not sure the Tiges are complaining about him. He is very reliable and almost never injured.

[SaintWodonga]

Gilbo's a gold coast boy... why not Gilbo & our 2nd round? Still leaves our 1st round for Parish (I hope)

[Con Gorozidis]

Gilbo's a gold coast boy... why not Gilbo & our 2nd round? Still leaves our 1st round for Parish (I hope)

If we managed to snag Bennell and Parish I will come over to your house on draft night with a bottle of expensive champagne or whisky. Your choice.

[SaintWodonga]

being right would be good enough celebration for me! I'm only hoping...

[matrix]

Gilbo's a gold coast boy... why not Gilbo & our 2nd round? Still leaves our 1st round for Parish (I hope)

get me the paperwork
ill forge someones sig
dunno whos but i swear to god ll do it



they wont accept that
surely