Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1568920Post SainterK »

Dangle him on a line and see what's biting.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1568923Post satchmo »

SainterK wrote:Dangle him on a line and see what's biting.
He could make a lot of money like that.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1568955Post whiskers3614 »

SainterK wrote:Dangle him on a line and see what's biting.
For somebody that wants Geary as our next captain you are being a bit hard there K,
Sure Gilbert turns it over but usually 50to 80 metres forward from where he first got it.
Geary on the other hand..


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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SainterK wrote:Dangle him on a line and see what's biting.

Im most players are dangled, even geary. All clubs do it.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1568964Post Zed »

When does his contract expire ?


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1568993Post SinCitySainter »

He is great at breaking the lines and our second best intercept mark behind only Dempster.
Let Webster and Roberton have the HBFs and give Gilbert a wing and that is a pretty handy combination.
A couple of years left in my opinion.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1568997Post longtimesaint »

whiskers3614 wrote:
SainterK wrote:Dangle him on a line and see what's biting.
For somebody that wants Geary as our next captain you are being a bit hard there K,
Sure Gilbert turns it over but usually 50to 80 metres forward from where he first got it.
Geary on the other hand..
Geary's disposal has improved a lot this year.
He seems to respond to Richo's coaching.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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longtimesaint wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:
SainterK wrote:Dangle him on a line and see what's biting.
For somebody that wants Geary as our next captain you are being a bit hard there K,
Sure Gilbert turns it over but usually 50to 80 metres forward from where he first got it.
Geary on the other hand..
Geary's disposal has improved a lot this year.
He seems to respond to Richo's coaching.
Sorry I can't see that.
Like Steven not only is the kicking poor but the options they choose often remind me of Raph and some of the free kicks he (Geary) gives away are Dawson like!


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1569021Post magnifisaint »

He's had a future for the last 10 years and I don't see it changing anytime soon.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1569037Post skeptic »

personally I just don't think he's that good.

His last really good season was what 2010?

It's a long time to see him get back up to standard and when he gets fit, he doesn't stay fit.

How much longer do we want to wait?


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Post: # 1569104Post Armoooo »

Gilberts defenders are right to point out that he is very talented, he can do a lot of things better than most in the comp, the problem is the unforced errors that seem to accompany his occasional brilliance.

He had a great game last week and has a few per season but most games I feel he doesn't really contribute much because he will cancel out his own good work. I don't think he is at any risk of being desisted but I think going forward he is a fringe player who will play mostly in the seniors but go back to the Vfl when a youngsters form demands selection.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1569131Post magnifisaint »

Gilbert doesn't have the currency so why trade him for a pick when that pick could end up worse than him. Better the devil you know than the devil you dont


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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Armoooo wrote:Gilberts defenders are right to point out that he is very talented, he can do a lot of things better than most in the comp, the problem is the unforced errors that seem to accompany his occasional brilliance.

He had a great game last week and has a few per season but most games I feel he doesn't really contribute much because he will cancel out his own good work. I don't think he is at any risk of being desisted but I think going forward he is a fringe player who will play mostly in the seniors but go back to the Vfl when a youngsters form demands selection.

I cant remember tha last time he was dropped so I cant see that happening to much. Vital player because of his versatility.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1569214Post skeptic »

Vital plugger!?

Really? A guy that's played SFA good footy in four years and you describe him as vital to the team

You're entitled to your opinion and I respect that but I don't get it


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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skeptic wrote:Vital plugger!?

Really? A guy that's played SFA good footy in four years and you describe him as vital to the team

You're entitled to your opinion and I respect that but I don't get it

Well I dont think it is 4 years but have you noticed how we have struggled for the last 3 years. Maybe that is part of the reason.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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plugger66 wrote:
skeptic wrote:Vital plugger!?

Really? A guy that's played SFA good footy in four years and you describe him as vital to the team

You're entitled to your opinion and I respect that but I don't get it

Well I dont think it is 4 years but have you noticed how we have struggled for the last 3 years. Maybe that is part of the reason.
We've bottomed out cos Gilbert has been injured? Small part if any.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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Rosco wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
skeptic wrote:Vital plugger!?

Really? A guy that's played SFA good footy in four years and you describe him as vital to the team

You're entitled to your opinion and I respect that but I don't get it

Well I dont think it is 4 years but have you noticed how we have struggled for the last 3 years. Maybe that is part of the reason.
We've bottomed out cos Gilbert has been injured? Small part if any.

Didn't say that and also said it maybe part of the reason.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1569379Post samuraisaint »

Based on today's result I'd say we need him badly. And Dempster too, to play on for at least two years. Joey and Roo as well.
Think Fisher, Ray and Schneids will retire, although Ray may spend a year on the Rookie List, for depth.

5 more games to go, I hope they don't all go as badly as today did. Can see at least one 100 point mauling coming up, especially if Nick and Gilbert remain out of the side.


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Post: # 1570070Post Con Gorozidis »

Gilbert truly is the Shane Watson of the Saints.

Divides opinion. Promises the world. Had a big 2009, injured or out for form since. Has lots of trouble with his foot-work.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1570081Post desertsaint »

Con Gorozidis wrote:Gilbert truly is the Shane Watson of the Saints.

Divides opinion. Promises the world. Had a big 2009, injured or out for form since. Has lots of trouble with his foot-work.
and keeps popping back because for all his faults, is better than other options.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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Out of contract. I think he'll be used as trade bait to get a potential deal across the line. If no deal gets done.. he'll stay for the remainder of his career.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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plugger66 wrote:
Rosco wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
skeptic wrote:Vital plugger!?

Really? A guy that's played SFA good footy in four years and you describe him as vital to the team

You're entitled to your opinion and I respect that but I don't get it

Well I dont think it is 4 years but have you noticed how we have struggled for the last 3 years. Maybe that is part of the reason.
We've bottomed out cos Gilbert has been injured? Small part if any.

Didn't say that and also said it maybe part of the reason.
To paraphrase yes Gilbert not having played good footy for years has contributed to our slide

Whether he is capable of producing good footy in the future is what we're debating


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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prwilkinson wrote:Out of contract. I think he'll be used as trade bait to get a potential deal across the line. If no deal gets done.. he'll stay for the remainder of his career.
What do u think he's worth


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

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skeptic wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Rosco wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
skeptic wrote:Vital plugger!?

Really? A guy that's played SFA good footy in four years and you describe him as vital to the team

You're entitled to your opinion and I respect that but I don't get it

Well I dont think it is 4 years but have you noticed how we have struggled for the last 3 years. Maybe that is part of the reason.
We've bottomed out cos Gilbert has been injured? Small part if any.

Didn't say that and also said it maybe part of the reason.
To paraphrase yes Gilbert not having played good footy for years has contributed to our slide

Whether he is capable of producing good footy in the future is what we're debating

Ok I think he will. No idea how this ends though. All I know IMO is he is important to us. You don't. That's fine.


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Re: Sam Gilbert - Does he have a future?

Post: # 1570478Post skeptic »

No need to get snippy about it.

He does have the talent i agree, i base my opinion on his last few years.

What do you base yours on?


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