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yupCon Gorozidis wrote:The whole thing is just a cluster f*ck now.
IanRush wrote:
There is an agenda behind this.
Con Gorozidis wrote:IanRush wrote:
There is an agenda behind this.
There is an agenda behind pretty much everything for you Rushy.
Hi Con. 
So what happens if it doesn't stop?
Christensen will get booed. I wonder how that will be viewed.markp wrote:So what happens if it doesn't stop?
Will they start talking about locking fans out and playing to empty stadiums as they've done with soccer?
Con Gorozidis wrote:Both fairly quiet blokes. Adam is more of a spokesman. Is that what makes peopele think he is an 'arrogant flog'? From all reports he is a real gentleman off field and great with kids etc etc.Life Long Saint wrote:Michael Long and Nicky Winmar were never booed. They were commended and respected.Con Gorozidis wrote:Because no other indigenous player speaks out and makes us feel uncomfortable.SENsei wrote:Can I ask if the boo-ing is race driven, then why are no other indigenious players being booed? (To my knowledge anyway).
I don't or wouldn't boo, but I think this is personality based not race based. In my opinion.
They did more to raise awareness of racism in football than Adam Goodes has ever done.
They did it in an era where it was far more confronting than it is today. It is not as confronting today because of the stand they took and the work they did and continue to do.
I think Old Mate has made a good point. Even if it really is his personality - the fact a bunch of whities are booing the black public face of anti-racism is just very off now.
To what are you trying to alude?saynta wrote:Christensen will get booed. I wonder how that will be viewed.
Work it out yourself.Austinnn wrote:To what are you trying to alude?saynta wrote:Christensen will get booed. I wonder how that will be viewed.
Are you telling us that our concept of racism is screwed?
It's true that this blanket reaction to one type of behaviour has given the right-wing libertine sharks some food.
It's clear that since the AotY, this trouble has brewed.
The beautiful native game is currently in a dark mood.
People think that Goode's is up himself but I reckon he's an alright dude.
I sure hope that someone doesn't get sued.
Etc
saynta wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinio ... 7460762592
"Those keen to portray fans as racist tend to be miserable self-loathing Leftists who see Australia as some backward, xenophobic corner of the world. Goodes being booed is just another reason to slam their country as racist. The truth is immaterial.
The victimhood brigade won’t be satisfied unless Goodes is seen as a casualty of Australia’s seething racism."
Gtreat article if you want to read it in full, and don't have the closed mind of some posters.
But this thread is.Austinnn wrote:Now I'm almost sad that the booing will stop. People need a release.markp wrote:Maybe we can go into business marketing relocatable soundproof boo - booths?WindSister wrote:Agreed.markp wrote:Gaz, it's the foody and theatre, we cheer our heros and boo our villains.
... and its very purpose , is to allow the relief of held stress n tension by the people ,
so as it doesnt explode sideways out in the general community during the daily grind.
So basically , we are as the Romans.
Where will the 'sideways' explosion of simmering resentments express itself next
if it cant be done at the Colloseum?
Pay $2 and boo your head off for 5 minutes.
it's NOT about the booing!
now I don't want to start a flame war with you gringo,but I think you have posted similar defamatory rubbish about Rita before. You should read the whole article. I was a balanced piece of journalism in my opinion. and what she said about the looney loathing left was spot on.gringo wrote:saynta wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinio ... 7460762592
"Those keen to portray fans as racist tend to be miserable self-loathing Leftists who see Australia as some backward, xenophobic corner of the world. Goodes being booed is just another reason to slam their country as racist. The truth is immaterial.
The victimhood brigade won’t be satisfied unless Goodes is seen as a casualty of Australia’s seething racism."
Gtreat article if you want to read it in full, and don't have the closed mind of some posters.
Rita Panahi is an abhorrent fool. She champions Andrew Bolt who a friends husband (who knows him) tells me is a great guy because he doesn't even believe the s*** he says but amuses himself. Panahi tries to gloss over everything while saying anyone who disagrees with her is a marxist nightmare that wants to enslave humanity and make them eat lentils. She comes from good immigrant Persian stock that came here for opportunity and now demand the door is firmly shut so none else can get access to the same opportunity. She wants a dictatorship run by arch conservatives but loves Australia. Well she would if it was just a bit more like Iraq in the good old days where a strong conservative stopped these silly dissenters. Like Abbott who thinks Australia is perfect but justs want to tinker with a few things so it's exactly like good old England.
Fair comments bunk.Bunk_Moreland wrote:Really - everyone knows my views on Goodes.
I think he is an ordinary person, and a has a glass jaw.
But does that mean he has to be further humiliated?
What are we all achieving by this.
It is making us all and the game a lesser thing.
We just need to stop.
This includes Adam Goodes with his silly war dance.
Just everyone pull back
Please
satchmo wrote:But this thread is.Austinnn wrote:Now I'm almost sad that the booing will stop. People need a release.markp wrote:Maybe we can go into business marketing relocatable soundproof boo - booths?WindSister wrote:Agreed.markp wrote:Gaz, it's the foody and theatre, we cheer our heros and boo our villains.
... and its very purpose , is to allow the relief of held stress n tension by the people ,
so as it doesnt explode sideways out in the general community during the daily grind.
So basically , we are as the Romans.
Where will the 'sideways' explosion of simmering resentments express itself next
if it cant be done at the Colloseum?
Pay $2 and boo your head off for 5 minutes.
it's NOT about the booing!
The op was asking that we, in representing our club as supporters. should show restraint and not boo Adam Goodes. This is a reasonable request.
But my point is...I don't boo anyway, and I don't know anyone that does. Apart from a couple of people, judging from the response , hardly anyone here seems to boo. So who are we pleading with? Was there a booing problem previously in our games against the Swans? Doesn't seem like that's the case. So because a group of idiots in WA doing it for a reason most seem to presume is racism, the media have highlighted it. I think that this media attention alone will incite every racist/moron/joker/shitstirrer that attends the game to have a crack at him, and if they do we can expect to all be branded racists. They will use images of Nicky and Gilbert to highlight that we were the problem all along.
Bunk_Moreland wrote:Really - everyone knows my views on Goodes.
I think he is an ordinary person, and a has a glass jaw.
But does that mean he has to be further humiliated?
What are we all achieving by this.
It is making us all and the game a lesser thing.
We just need to stop.
This includes Adam Goodes with his silly war dance.
Just everyone pull back
Please
That someone has said it:matrix wrote: im waiting for some peanut thats reasonably well known to say something complete stupid in the media somewhere and then...well
who the hell knows whats going to happen
its just a mess now
by saynta » Wed 29 Jul 2015 3:32pm
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinio ... 7460762592
"Those keen to portray fans as racist tend to be miserable self-loathing Leftists who see Australia as some backward, xenophobic corner of the world. Goodes being booed is just another reason to slam their country as racist. The truth is immaterial.
The victimhood brigade won’t be satisfied unless Goodes is seen as a casualty of Australia’s seething racism."
Gtreat article if you want to read it in full, and don't have the closed mind of some posters.
You have to be joking. More proof though. She gives Liberal supporters a bad name with her crap she writes. She is now the female equivalent of that loser Bolt. They are must avoids in the paper and unfortunately on TV as well.saynta wrote:now I don't want to start a flame war with you gringo,but I think you have posted similar defamatory rubbish about Rita before. You should read the whole article. I was a balanced piece of journalism in my opinion. and what she said about the looney loathing left was spot on.gringo wrote:saynta wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinio ... 7460762592
"Those keen to portray fans as racist tend to be miserable self-loathing Leftists who see Australia as some backward, xenophobic corner of the world. Goodes being booed is just another reason to slam their country as racist. The truth is immaterial.
The victimhood brigade won’t be satisfied unless Goodes is seen as a casualty of Australia’s seething racism."
Gtreat article if you want to read it in full, and don't have the closed mind of some posters.
Rita Panahi is an abhorrent fool. She champions Andrew Bolt who a friends husband (who knows him) tells me is a great guy because he doesn't even believe the s*** he says but amuses himself. Panahi tries to gloss over everything while saying anyone who disagrees with her is a marxist nightmare that wants to enslave humanity and make them eat lentils. She comes from good immigrant Persian stock that came here for opportunity and now demand the door is firmly shut so none else can get access to the same opportunity. She wants a dictatorship run by arch conservatives but loves Australia. Well she would if it was just a bit more like Iraq in the good old days where a strong conservative stopped these silly dissenters. Like Abbott who thinks Australia is perfect but justs want to tinker with a few things so it's exactly like good old England.
Why don't you read the whole article and then attack what you disagree with rather than attack a much admired opinion piece writer.
Saintsationalists. you really should consider popping over to the good 'ol GF. See the sorta' stuff that you've been missing... well at least when the GF was up and running in its prime. Adam is proud of his Indigenous heritage, and is actively involved with several Indigenous sport and community programs. He has spent time working with troubled youth, including those in youth detention centres. Together with his cousin and former teammate Michael O’Loughlin, Adam established the Go Foundation which empowers the next generation of Indigenous role models in all walks of life. Adam co-chairs the foundation, focused on promoting education, employment and healthy lifestyles. Adam is a great role model and advocate for the fight against racism both on and off the field and is admired by a great many people around the nation.
http://www.australianoftheyear.org.au/h ... entID=1144
"Growing up as an Indigenous Australian, I have seen and experienced my fair share of racism. Whilst it has been difficult a lot of the time, it has also taught me a lot and shaped my values and what I believe in today. There are always two ways we can look at a situation - we can choose to get angry or not, we can choose to help others or not, or choose to be offended or not, we can keep our silos or educate ourselves and others about racism and minority populations. It is not just about taking responsibility for your own actions, but speaking to your mates when they take out their anger on their loved ones, minority groups or make racist remarks. We are all equal and the same in so many ways. My hope is that we as a nation can break down the silos between races, break down those stereotypes of minority populations - Indigenous populations and all those other minority groups. I hope we can be proud of our heritage regardless of the colour of our skin and be proud to be Australian."
He says whilst he is extremely proud and honoured to be chosen as Australian of the Year, the real reward will be to see a nation free of racism.
"The ultimate reward is when all Australians see each other is equals and treat each other as equals. To me everything is about people and the choices we make. I believe it's the people and the and Interatcions between us that make this country so special. Thank you so much and have a great Australia Day."
Yep.satchmo wrote:But this thread is.Austinnn wrote:Now I'm almost sad that the booing will stop. People need a release.markp wrote:Maybe we can go into business marketing relocatable soundproof boo - booths?WindSister wrote:Agreed.markp wrote:Gaz, it's the foody and theatre, we cheer our heros and boo our villains.
... and its very purpose , is to allow the relief of held stress n tension by the people ,
so as it doesnt explode sideways out in the general community during the daily grind.
So basically , we are as the Romans.
Where will the 'sideways' explosion of simmering resentments express itself next
if it cant be done at the Colloseum?
Pay $2 and boo your head off for 5 minutes.
it's NOT about the booing!
The op was asking that we, in representing our club as supporters. should show restraint and not boo Adam Goodes. This is a reasonable request.
But my point is...I don't boo anyway, and I don't know anyone that does. Apart from a couple of people, judging from the response , hardly anyone here seems to boo. So who are we pleading with? Was there a booing problem previously in our games against the Swans? Doesn't seem like that's the case. So because a group of idiots in WA doing it for a reason most seem to presume is racism, the media have highlighted it. I think that this media attention alone will incite every racist/moron/joker/shitstirrer that attends the game to have a crack at him, and if they do we can expect to all be branded racists. They will use images of Nicky and Gilbert to highlight that we were the problem all along.