Round 22 Adam Goodes

[CURLY]

Can't remember this support and outrage all the years Milne copped it. Please Goodes get over yourself.

He was also found guilty of indecent assault. But I think he copped a much greater punishment over the years than others in that situation.
But how is that relevant here? What kind of bench-mark are we setting? 'Other people are assholes so let's be assholes too?"

It's booing FFS he is 35 years old. They boo Stevie J Hayden B WB supporters boo Riewoldt. There grown men getting thousands to play football just get on with it.

You can't seriously be calling the booing of those guys the same as goodes. I have followed footy for 45 years and there has been nothing like this on a regular basis

My wife is a Geelong supporter and every week they boo Stevie J.

[Austinnn]

Imagine if he was gay as well.
Fmd the threads on all footy sites would make the Internet's explode

Probably explains why no current AFL player has ever come out of the closet.

Curly: how about you try a day in Goodes' shoes? Get over it? You can't even get over umpiring decisions, let alone being openly hated by large crowds. Thought you were all about fairness?

[plugger66]

Can't remember this support and outrage all the years Milne copped it. Please Goodes get over yourself.

Just because milney didn't get support doesn't mean goodes shouldn't. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

So it's reverse racism? Let's face it if Goodes wasn't indigenous this wouldn't be a issue. Goodes is booed because he is protected due to playing for Sydney. He has a huge wrap sheet but rarely gets suspended. He dives and acts for frees.

Except the real booing started only after the 13 year old incident and him being audtralian of the year

[CURLY]

Imagine if he was gay as well.
Fmd the threads on all footy sites would make the Internet's explode

Probably explains why no current AFL player has ever come out of the closet.

Curly: how about you try a day in Goodes' shoes? Get over it? You can't even get over umpiring decisions, let alone being openly hated by large crowds. Thought you were all about fairness?

Why aren't they booing other indigenous player? Maybe it's because they don't behave like Goodes and then hide behind it. Don't give me the try and live a day in his shoes because trust me if would be a piece of piss.

[markp]

What about just taking a risk averse, pragmatic strategy into the game?

Let's just say we have no idea whether the booing is racist or not, but we wont do it in Rd 22 anyway just in case.

I mean is booing him really that important to people? Just grab a pie or a beer or something instead.

I don't know what is funnier:- that people actually boo, or that people think that they can stop it.

Somehow I don't feel responsible when other Saints supporters do something stupid. I don't feel that anyone else represents me.

Or maybe people declaring the motivation for each and every boo... Conveniently all identical.

And as for Milne, it wasn't the booing that was objectionable.

[CURLY]

Can't remember this support and outrage all the years Milne copped it. Please Goodes get over yourself.

Just because milney didn't get support doesn't mean goodes shouldn't. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

So it's reverse racism? Let's face it if Goodes wasn't indigenous this wouldn't be a issue. Goodes is booed because he is protected due to playing for Sydney. He has a huge wrap sheet but rarely gets suspended. He dives and acts for frees.

Except the real booing started only after the 13 year old incident and him being audtralian of the year

Did you hear his Australian of the Year speech? A more disrespectful thing you'll never hear.

[bergsone]

Just having a laugh with the misses,saying what we need are boo police,to kick out the booers.Said they couldn't get enough cops for that if I was still running around



For f*** sake grow up people

[jamesmc]

Can't remember this support and outrage all the years Milne copped it. Please Goodes get over yourself.

True

I'd rather be called a " scum sucking gorilla" than a " rapist "

[Con Gorozidis]

Did you hear his Australian of the Year speech? A more disrespectful thing you'll never hear.

Like when he said this during his acceptance?

We are all equal and the same in so many ways. My hope is that we as a nation can break down the silos between races, break down those stereotypes of minority populations - Indigenous populations and all those other minority groups. I hope we can be proud of our heritage regardless of the colour of our skin and be proud to be Australian.

[CURLY]

Did you hear his Australian of the Year speech? A more disrespectful thing you'll never hear.

Like when he said this during his acceptance?

We are all equal and the same in so many ways. My hope is that we as a nation can break down the silos between races, break down those stereotypes of minority populations - Indigenous populations and all those other minority groups. I hope we can be proud of our heritage regardless of the colour of our skin and be proud to be Australian.

No.

[Bunk_Moreland]

Can't remember this support and outrage all the years Milne copped it. Please Goodes get over yourself.

True

I'd rather be called a " scum sucking gorilla" than a " rapist "

Come on. There is no moral equilivence

Calling Milne a rapist was reprehensible but it had nothing to do with race.

Calling Goodes a big ape has racist connotations that black people aren't humans and are less evolved than other humans.

The Nazis used that to kill 20 million slavs . Untermensch was the term - meaning less than man. Calling someone a big ape is the same concept.

[CURLY]

Can't remember this support and outrage all the years Milne copped it. Please Goodes get over yourself.

True

I'd rather be called a " scum sucking gorilla" than a " rapist "

Come on. There is no moral equilivence

Calling Milne a rapist was reprehensible but it had nothing to do with race.

Calling Goodes a big ape has racist connotations that black people aren't humans and are less evolved than other humans.

The Nazis used that to kill 20 million slavs . Untermensch was the term - meaning less than man. Calling someone a big ape is the same concept.

Racist comments are not on no matter what. Booing for being a flog no matter what race is personal choice. I don't boo I don't yell abuse either but some do. Some people even abuse there own players each to there own.

[satchmo]

What about just taking a risk averse, pragmatic strategy into the game?

Let's just say we have no idea whether the booing is racist or not, but we wont do it in Rd 22 anyway just in case.

I mean is booing him really that important to people? Just grab a pie or a beer or something instead.

I don't know what is funnier:- that people actually boo, or that people think that they can stop it.

Somehow I don't feel responsible when other Saints supporters do something stupid. I don't feel that anyone else represents me.

Sorry buddy, you're part of that family. Whatever you feel, people will see you as a Saints fan and make judgements on that, rightly wrongly hypocritically whatever. Remind yourself about that when you think about Pies fans, etc.

Not sure how long you have been a Sainter, Austinnn, but one thing that this Club will do for you over time is thicken the skin.

[Con Gorozidis]

Thank god for beer, hot pies and hot dogs.

[Con Gorozidis]

Imagine if he was gay as well.
Fmd the threads on all footy sites would make the Internet's explode

Probably explains why no current AFL player has ever come out of the closet.

Curly: how about you try a day in Goodes' shoes? Get over it? You can't even get over umpiring decisions, let alone being openly hated by large crowds. Thought you were all about fairness?

Why aren't they booing other indigenous player? Maybe it's because they don't behave like Goodes and then hide behind it. Don't give me the try and live a day in his shoes because trust me if would be a piece of piss.

How does he behave? All uppity and proud? Cant have that can we.

Last time he looked he wasnt out drinking or getting in fights, wasnt taking (or dealing) drugs, beating women, urinating on them. Last time I looked he was behaving like a responsible adult. What is this supposed 'behaviour' we find so bad?

[CURLY]

Imagine if he was gay as well.
Fmd the threads on all footy sites would make the Internet's explode

Probably explains why no current AFL player has ever come out of the closet.

Curly: how about you try a day in Goodes' shoes? Get over it? You can't even get over umpiring decisions, let alone being openly hated by large crowds. Thought you were all about fairness?

Why aren't they booing other indigenous player? Maybe it's because they don't behave like Goodes and then hide behind it. Don't give me the try and live a day in his shoes because trust me if would be a piece of piss.

How does he behave? All uppity and proud? Cant have that can we.

Last time he looked he wasnt out drinking or getting in fights, wasnt taking (or dealing) drugs, beating women, urinating on them. Last time I looked he was behaving like a responsible adult. What is this supposed 'behaviour' we find so bad?

It's his on field behaviour. The sniping the going in feet first the diving the acting for frees. He has been protected I've always believed it was the Sydney AFL love child thing that protected him not his colour.

[SainterK]

I have nothing to add to thread other than....

Swans fans could of been completely unoriginal and turned it into "Goooooooddddeesss"

That's how saints fans fixed up Roo getting booed, and we don't have the greatest supporter numbers.

Quiet bunch the Where's Wally crew.

[Joe Bloggs]

Sydney should just walk of the ground and the other team as well stuff the crowd what's the point of playing in front of a ugly mob that would stop the boos straight away .

[asiu]

thats what will happen , if it does not stop , imo.
.... rightly or wrongly , a line in the sand has been drawn.

There's no backing down from here on in.
('n it wouldnt suprise me in the least if the Swans and their opponent of the day
do it together)

[The Fireman]

I used to like Goodes...now I don't...am I an adjustable racist ?

[supersaints]

thats what will happen , if it does not stop , imo.
.... rightly or wrongly , a line in the sand has been drawn.

There's no backing down from here on in.
('n it wouldnt suprise me in the least if the Swans and their opponent of the day
do it together)

But if they all walked off the crowd would start booing wouldn't they?

[The Fireman]

Sydney should just walk of the ground and the other team as well stuff the crowd what's the point of playing in front of a ugly mob that would stop the boos straight away .

When I played footy it was for the love of the game and couldn't give a s*** about the crowd....things must of changed.

[SENsei]

Can I ask if the boo-ing is race driven, then why are no other indigenious players being booed? (To my knowledge anyway).

I don't or wouldn't boo, but I think this is personality based not race based. In my opinion.

[Con Gorozidis]

I used to like Goodes...now I don't...am I an adjustable racist ?

No-one is asking you to like him. The question is should he be booed week in week out and why is it happening.

[Con Gorozidis]

Can I ask if the boo-ing is race driven, then why are no other indigenious players being booed? (To my knowledge anyway).

I don't or wouldn't boo, but I think this is personality based not race based. In my opinion.

Because no other indigenous player speaks out and makes us feel uncomfortable.