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Savage
Thought he was really good today, his disposal and decision making is on a par with B. Goddard.
One thing I couldn't understand today was when he put himself in a great position to mark and instead double fisted it over the line.
Love him on the burst, but does he suffer from the "FIORAS" in contested situations?
One thing I couldn't understand today was when he put himself in a great position to mark and instead double fisted it over the line.
Love him on the burst, but does he suffer from the "FIORAS" in contested situations?
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Re: Savage
He should run past anyone who marks outside 50 as his long kicks are a huge weapon for us.
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Re: Savage
Spot on there, he came to mind as I was posting my 1st comment.Johnny Favier wrote:Looks like the second coming of Heath Black, except without the off-field baggage....
Loved Heath Black, Im a huge wrap for the 100 m players ie can carry 30 to 40 m & kick it 60 m.
Breaking the lines & can hurt you in tight games with long goals
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Re: Savage
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we get Shane via the Ben deal which also landed us the picks which we used on Dunstan and Acres?
Where are the idiots in the media who critised the club for the trade now!?!
Where are the idiots in the media who critised the club for the trade now!?!
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Re: Savage
I see him more like Jason Gram, he had that long range shot on goal that seemed to desert him late career but he has a bit more pace and obviously a lot less baggage.
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Re: Savage
can confirm for sure that pick got us Dunstan and Savage, not sure about Acers.SaintPav wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we get Shane via the Ben deal which also landed us the picks which we used on Dunstan and Acres?
Where are the idiots in the media who critised the club for the trade now!?!
A great trade in the end
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Re: Savage
He's proving to be just what we wanted - good pace, great disposal, mature body, racking kick, gutsy. Could improve overhead. More of those players please
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Re: Savage
Savage is the new Gramgringo wrote:I see him more like Jason Gram, he had that long range shot on goal that seemed to desert him late career but he has a bit more pace and obviously a lot less baggage.
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Re: Savage
Jason Gram had more height and greater pace - he was one of the quickest players in the AFL, certainly in our side. Shane Savage is slow (think Dunstan) and not tall, which is why have him (think Hawthorn's backline). Shane is a consistently more accurate kick, although not as long, but can't kick on his non preferred (neither could Jason Gram). If oppositions let Shane Savage run past on the right hand side of teammates then they shouldn't be surprised if he has a shot from 50.gringo wrote:I see him more like Jason Gram, he had that long range shot on goal that seemed to desert him late career but he has a bit more pace and obviously a lot less baggage.
Today, Jason Gram is 31. Just another lost player to the Saints before his time. It's a rather long list.
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Re: Savage
More in the Health Black mould for me as he doesn't shirk the contest, unlike Gram who used to sleep with the light on!!gringo wrote:I see him more like Jason Gram, he had that long range shot on goal that seemed to desert him late career but he has a bit more pace and obviously a lot less baggage.
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Re: Savage
No we didn't get Acres out of that trade.fonz_#15 wrote:can confirm for sure that pick got us Dunstan and Savage, not sure about Acers.SaintPav wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we get Shane via the Ben deal which also landed us the picks which we used on Dunstan and Acres?
Where are the idiots in the media who critised the club for the trade now!?!
A great trade in the end
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Re: Savage
perfectionist wrote:Jason Gram had more height and greater pace - he was one of the quickest players in the AFL, certainly in our side. Shane Savage is slow (think Dunstan) and not tall, which is why have him (think Hawthorn's backline). Shane is a consistently more accurate kick, although not as long, but can't kick on his non preferred (neither could Jason Gram). If oppositions let Shane Savage run past on the right hand side of teammates then they shouldn't be surprised if he has a shot from 50.gringo wrote:I see him more like Jason Gram, he had that long range shot on goal that seemed to desert him late career but he has a bit more pace and obviously a lot less baggage.
Today, Jason Gram is 31. Just another lost player to the Saints before his time. It's a rather long list.
Completely disagree on Savage's pace and on Grams pace. Gram was no quicker than Savage, or if he was never showed it when he was at the Saints.
Savage is a much better kick than Gram who was renown for the Grambulance shank at least twice a game, and the occasional beautiful 60 metre bullet.
Neither has or had an opposite foot.
Gram deserved to be delisted and is not missed.
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Re: Savage
I agree with absolutely everything you've said here Bunk. Spot on. I'd take Savage everyday of the week over Gram.Bunk_Moreland wrote:perfectionist wrote:Jason Gram had more height and greater pace - he was one of the quickest players in the AFL, certainly in our side. Shane Savage is slow (think Dunstan) and not tall, which is why have him (think Hawthorn's backline). Shane is a consistently more accurate kick, although not as long, but can't kick on his non preferred (neither could Jason Gram). If oppositions let Shane Savage run past on the right hand side of teammates then they shouldn't be surprised if he has a shot from 50.gringo wrote:I see him more like Jason Gram, he had that long range shot on goal that seemed to desert him late career but he has a bit more pace and obviously a lot less baggage.
Today, Jason Gram is 31. Just another lost player to the Saints before his time. It's a rather long list.
Completely disagree on Savage's pace and on Grams pace. Gram was no quicker than Savage, or if he was never showed it when he was at the Saints.
Savage is a much better kick than Gram who was renown for the Grambulance shank at least twice a game, and the occasional beautiful 60 metre bullet.
Neither has or had an opposite foot.
Gram deserved to be delisted and is not missed.
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Well I wouldn't yet. Gram was nearly best on the ground in a GF. funny how some people lose their ability when they leave. 4 weeks ago I think Savage may have been dropped or there were people wanting him dropped. Gram still has him covered by a long way IMO except for his kicking.Animal Enclosure wrote:I agree with absolutely everything you've said here Bunk. Spot on. I'd take Savage everyday of the week over Gram.Bunk_Moreland wrote:perfectionist wrote:Jason Gram had more height and greater pace - he was one of the quickest players in the AFL, certainly in our side. Shane Savage is slow (think Dunstan) and not tall, which is why have him (think Hawthorn's backline). Shane is a consistently more accurate kick, although not as long, but can't kick on his non preferred (neither could Jason Gram). If oppositions let Shane Savage run past on the right hand side of teammates then they shouldn't be surprised if he has a shot from 50.gringo wrote:I see him more like Jason Gram, he had that long range shot on goal that seemed to desert him late career but he has a bit more pace and obviously a lot less baggage.
Today, Jason Gram is 31. Just another lost player to the Saints before his time. It's a rather long list.
Completely disagree on Savage's pace and on Grams pace. Gram was no quicker than Savage, or if he was never showed it when he was at the Saints.
Savage is a much better kick than Gram who was renown for the Grambulance shank at least twice a game, and the occasional beautiful 60 metre bullet.
Neither has or had an opposite foot.
Gram deserved to be delisted and is not missed.
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Re: Savage
Gram sure wasn't slow and had a couple of excellent years, certainly better than any year Savage has put together. Having said that, Sav is looking good.
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Re: Savage
plugger66 wrote:Well I wouldn't yet. Gram was nearly best on the ground in a GF. funny how some people lose their ability when they leave. 4 weeks ago I think Savage may have been dropped or there were people wanting him dropped. Gram still has him covered by a long way IMO except for his kicking.Animal Enclosure wrote:I agree with absolutely everything you've said here Bunk. Spot on. I'd take Savage everyday of the week over Gram.Bunk_Moreland wrote:perfectionist wrote:Jason Gram had more height and greater pace - he was one of the quickest players in the AFL, certainly in our side. Shane Savage is slow (think Dunstan) and not tall, which is why have him (think Hawthorn's backline). Shane is a consistently more accurate kick, although not as long, but can't kick on his non preferred (neither could Jason Gram). If oppositions let Shane Savage run past on the right hand side of teammates then they shouldn't be surprised if he has a shot from 50.gringo wrote:I see him more like Jason Gram, he had that long range shot on goal that seemed to desert him late career but he has a bit more pace and obviously a lot less baggage.
Today, Jason Gram is 31. Just another lost player to the Saints before his time. It's a rather long list.
Completely disagree on Savage's pace and on Grams pace. Gram was no quicker than Savage, or if he was never showed it when he was at the Saints.
Savage is a much better kick than Gram who was renown for the Grambulance shank at least twice a game, and the occasional beautiful 60 metre bullet.
Neither has or had an opposite foot.
Gram deserved to be delisted and is not missed.
Didn't say he couldn't play, I was disputing that Gram was much quicker than Savage and was a better kick.
Bit of a difference.
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Re: Savage
My Hawks mate told me Sav was inconsistent- he would have an amazing game and have a quiet one a week later. I just remember him killing us one game, he must have had 30+ disposals and a bag of goals. Savage is super quick when you see him up close at games so I thought he'd be slightly faster than Gram who I loved as a player and was also very fast once he got of the first couple of long strides. I watched a Sandy game last year and Savage was so quick he just left players in his wake, it was like he was in fast forward compared to anyone else on the field. Gram was a very good player for a long time and deserves a bit more respect than he gets, he went from a favourite to a whipping boy late career.