Match Thread Saints v Demons @ MCG

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Re: Match Thread Saints v Demons @ MCG

Post: # 1566607Post SinCitySainter »

McCartin looks lost. He is not ready for this level yet.
I am sure eventually he will be a good player but at this stage of his development he should still be playing at Sandy.
To make matters worse Roo does not look like he is anywhere near 100% fit, he is playing alright but is not moving as freely as usual.

Our disposal is truly horrible and the Demons seem to want to play a purely negative game.
We keep using these slow loopy kicks to players flatfooted and the Dees just keep picking it off.


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Post: # 1566608Post Sobraz »

Been a Schneider fan, but every possession today has been cute and caught out pretty much every time.


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Post: # 1566609Post Playon »

anthony_13 wrote:Umps on our side today :D
We've had 4 more free kicks' Listening to the Melb supporters winge you'd think we'd had an extra 30


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Post: # 1566610Post kalsaint »

Sobraz wrote:
Goose is king wrote:Longer needs to lift he's getting smashed.
Been smashed all year bar 2 or so games.
The only real baffling aspect of Richos coaching is his constant Longer selection.
Just don't get it.

Unless it poised toward a trade. I'd be happy to get back what we paid for him.
Don't agree with this at all. Longer has been competitive in many games this year, Gawn has beaten many opposition teams in hit outs this year.

We just need to take our chances and move the ball forward not sideways or back. The team all need to support this and confidence will build and the likelihood of turnovers then decline. We might actually see a more effective forward line without such a flood of opposition players with forward movement.


Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
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Post: # 1566611Post Sobraz »

The Fireman wrote:
Sobraz wrote:
Goose is king wrote:Longer needs to lift he's getting smashed.
Been smashed all year bar 2 or so games.
The only real baffling aspect of Richos coaching is his constant Longer selection.
Just don't get it.

Unless it poised toward a trade. I'd be happy to get back what we paid for him.
maybe he sees potential as I do.
Seeing potential is one thing.
Actually improving is another.
There's a strong argument to be made that Longer isn't any better at all than last year.
Meanwhile, if he has potential, what the he'll has Gawn got. Very similar in all departments except ability.


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Post: # 1566612Post Goose is king »

[quote="The Fireman"][quote="Sobraz"][quote="Goose is king"]Longer needs to lift he's getting smashed.[/quote]
Been smashed all year bar 2 or so games.
The only real baffling aspect of Richos coaching is his constant Longer selection.
Just don't get it.

Unless it poised toward a trade. I'd be happy to get back what we paid for him.[/quote]
maybe he sees potential as I do.[/quote]

I see potential in Longer too but you can drop him to give Hickey a go too.
Unless Longer beats Gawn in this quarter I would drop him for next week.
Or even rest him.


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Post: # 1566613Post gringo »

8856brother wrote:Time for a sleep. Bruce been struggling for a while now. Needs to lift.

He looks lost out of the forward 50. He probably needs to be dropped when Paddy plays. He isn't really a great back line player and is not really much of a ruck.


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Post: # 1566614Post desertsaint »

derby Street wrote:Gee we have got some unskilful players which is not helping our cause. Be good if we could start hitting some targets.
we want to win this, it's simple - start hitting targets - the team that does will get the biscuits.


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Post: # 1566615Post The Fireman »

I say persist with Billy atm


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Post: # 1566616Post stjay »

Sobraz wrote:
The Fireman wrote:
Sobraz wrote:
Goose is king wrote:Longer needs to lift he's getting smashed.
Been smashed all year bar 2 or so games.
The only real baffling aspect of Richos coaching is his constant Longer selection.
Just don't get it.

Unless it poised toward a trade. I'd be happy to get back what we paid for him.
maybe he sees potential as I do.
Seeing potential is one thing.
Actually improving is another.
There's a strong argument to be made that Longer isn't any better at all than last year.
Meanwhile, if he has potential, what the he'll has Gawn got. Very similar in all departments except ability.
Also...He may well improve but there are others who, in the meantime, play his spot more effectively.


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Post: # 1566618Post Devilhead »

Amazing what happens when you move the ball quickly into the fowardline

Lots of space and Roo kicks the goal


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Post: # 1566619Post kalsaint »

Bunk_Moreland wrote:
bigcarl wrote:Dees looked better than us that quarter. I'm not at the ground. Wonder if there is a wind advantage?
No wind. Seemed even in that qtr except we cant convert. Couple of lucky goals to Melbourne. Saints forward line flooded. Need to find alternatives to bombing it to a contest

Flooding can be averted if players remain closer to nominated position and move the ball quickly. We kick badly at times and this costs us turnovers so we need the team to display team work and confidence in ball movement. Team effort needs to be placed on protecting the ball carrier,


Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
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Post: # 1566620Post desertsaint »

keep em coming saints!


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Demons @ MCG

Post: # 1566621Post bigcarl »

gringo wrote:
8856brother wrote:Time for a sleep. Bruce been struggling for a while now. Needs to lift.

He looks lost out of the forward 50. He probably needs to be dropped when Paddy plays. He isn't really a great back line player and is not really much of a ruck.
Get real. Bruce is our leading goal-kicker this season and should be played at full forward. Paddy needs to earn his spot with consistent goals and form.


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Post: # 1566622Post kalsaint »

Yay, We seem to be trying to open up the game. Thanks Savage your breaking the lines has been missed. Needs others to join in now.
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Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
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Post: # 1566623Post stevie »

Jack Watts is in our top five players so far. He's given us most of our frees! Lol!


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Post: # 1566624Post kalsaint »

Devilhead wrote:Amazing what happens when you move the ball quickly into the fowardline

Lots of space and Roo kicks the goal
+1


Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Demons @ MCG

Post: # 1566625Post gringo »

Goose is king wrote:
The Fireman wrote:
Sobraz wrote:
Goose is king wrote:Longer needs to lift he's getting smashed.
Been smashed all year bar 2 or so games.
The only real baffling aspect of Richos coaching is his constant Longer selection.
Just don't get it.

Unless it poised toward a trade. I'd be happy to get back what we paid for him.
maybe he sees potential as I do.
I see potential in Longer too but you can drop him to give Hickey a go too.
Unless Longer beats Gawn in this quarter I would drop him for next week.
Or even rest him.

Gawn is one of the form players this year. If he beats him thats great but Hickey wouldn't be any better.


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Post: # 1566626Post kalsaint »

stjay wrote:
Sobraz wrote:
The Fireman wrote:
Sobraz wrote:
Goose is king wrote:Longer needs to lift he's getting smashed.
Been smashed all year bar 2 or so games.
The only real baffling aspect of Richos coaching is his constant Longer selection.
Just don't get it.

Unless it poised toward a trade. I'd be happy to get back what we paid for him.
maybe he sees potential as I do.
Seeing potential is one thing.
Actually improving is another.
There's a strong argument to be made that Longer isn't any better at all than last year.
Meanwhile, if he has potential, what the he'll has Gawn got. Very similar in all departments except ability.
Also...He may well improve but there are others who, in the meantime, play his spot more effectively.
Longer better tap ruckman than Hickey and generally has put good pressure on contests in the middle. Hickey was trialed as a forward but didn't score enough. He did some good things but didn't creative enough opportunities and was less able to maintain forward pressure. Membrey was the better selection there. I f Billy is injured now maybe its time for Hickey but if not Billy should stay as the #1 choice ruck.


Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
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Post: # 1566627Post Pwoit »

Looking better now. Wet ground helping the ball go forward


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Demons @ MCG

Post: # 1566628Post gringo »

bigcarl wrote:
gringo wrote:
8856brother wrote:Time for a sleep. Bruce been struggling for a while now. Needs to lift.

He looks lost out of the forward 50. He probably needs to be dropped when Paddy plays. He isn't really a great back line player and is not really much of a ruck.
Get real. Bruce is our leading goal-kicker this season and should be played at full forward. Paddy needs to earn his spot with consistent goals and form.

I agree but if they choose to play him they need to leave Bruce out IMO. Bruce is one of my favs so no argument there but why play him away from goal?


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Post: # 1566629Post bigcarl »

Go Saints. Bury them.


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Post: # 1566630Post Pwoit »

Gilbert playing well...... (gilbert bashers may respond )


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Re: Match Thread Saints v Demons @ MCG

Post: # 1566631Post kalsaint »

Roberton has been great this year, good nous down back, high efficient licking, leadership has been great and has been accruing many possessions to enable a more effective forward plan. I reckon he must be close to leading the Barker medal this year so far.


Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
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Post: # 1566632Post mullet »

Pwoit wrote:Gilbert playing well...... (gilbert bashers may respond )
glad someone is after readin this thread though the whole team was getting dropped


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