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Changes v Demons

Post: # 1555759Post kosifantutti »

@AFL_PKeane: St Kilda v Melb;
St Kilda changes - Gilbert, Weller, Dunstan, Membrey, McKenzie, Goddard for Schneider, Hickey, Sinclair.


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Post: # 1555763Post FQF »

Hmmm...


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Post: # 1555765Post anthony_13 »

struggling to understand why Lee is never an in..


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Post: # 1555766Post kosifantutti »

ST KILDA
B
Jarryn Geary Sean Dempster Sam Gilbert
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Jack Newnes Luke Delaney Jimmy Webster
C
Leigh Montagna David Armitage Blake Acres
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Sebastian Ross Nick Riewoldt Jack Billings
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Tim Membrey Josh Bruce Jack Lonie
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Billy Longer Luke Dunstan Jack Steven
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Shane Savage Dylan Roberton Farren Ray Hugh Goddard Daniel McKenzie Cameron Shenton Maverick Weller (Three to be omitted)
IN
Sam Gilbert Maverick Weller Luke Dunstan Tim Membrey Daniel McKenzie Hugh Goddard
OUT
Adam Schneider (Omitted) Tom Hickey (Omitted) Jack Sinclair (Omitted)
NEW
Hugh Goddard
MILESTONES:


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Post: # 1555767Post plugger66 »

anthony_13 wrote:struggling to understand why Lee is never an in..

Well if he is an in Goddard isn't then people would ask why isn't he in.


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Post: # 1555769Post FQF »

Three to be omitted from that I/C is hard to pick.

McKenzie, Shenton, ???


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Post: # 1555770Post plugger66 »

FQF wrote:Three to be omitted from that I/C is hard to pick.

McKenzie, Shenton, ???

Well the certainties that are in are Weller and Roberton. Savage did well last week when he came on and Ray was Ok.

Shenton, McKenzie Goddard.


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Post: # 1555776Post Bruce G McAbee »

Has Gilbert had a decent run at Sandy?


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Post: # 1555783Post desertsaint »

Very pleased to see Gilbo back in.


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Post: # 1555787Post Sobraz »

Hickey not playing anywhere this weekend?
Surely there's a nagging injury otherwise I'm super confused.


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Post: # 1555788Post Freebird »

Holmes and pierce ahead of him


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Post: # 1555792Post Con Gorozidis »

Lee and Minch are on the outer despite consistent VFL form.

Maybe we are staggering the season this year to prevent the second half drop-off and they get their opportunity later so we can inject some freshness into the side..

V Melbourne does seem like a sensible time to debut Goddard.
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Con Gorozidis wrote:Lee and Minch are on the outer despite consistent VFL form.
They're not alone. Saunders, Curren and Eli are all in good form at Sandy. Previously Acres, McKenzie and others have been in very good form and not selected for a few weeks running.

Form at Sandy is only factor in the selection matrix. On one foot, these factors are all taken into account:

1. Sandy form
2. Training form
3. Team balance/players ahead in the pecking order for specific positions
4. (As you said) Longer term season planning
5. Specific areas that a player has been asked to address

When we have a full list to pick from, and lots of young players all playing to a similar output, there will be people who are undeservingly left out. They will get their time.


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Post: # 1555813Post SaintPav »

Freebird wrote:Holmes and pierce ahead of him
One's on the rookie list and the other has never played a senior game, so they must be.


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Post: # 1555821Post felix »

Out Shenton Ray n Roberton ? .


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Post: # 1555822Post Griggsy »

Don't see Goddard getting a run unless Gilbert pulls out before the game starts. I guess even the pregame is part of knowing what the big leauges is about.


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Post: # 1555823Post Bunk_Moreland »

felix wrote:Out Shenton Ray n Roberton ? .
Roberton?

Just about our best on the weekend


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Post: # 1555824Post felix »

Bunk_Moreland wrote:
felix wrote:Out Shenton Ray n Roberton ? .
Roberton?

Just about our best on the weekend
Yep Roberton was good but Gilbert is in and if Hugh plays and we need another tall out goes Shenton and Roberton .
Think tony said Hugh might get a run .


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Post: # 1555828Post RW&B »

felix wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:
felix wrote:Out Shenton Ray n Roberton ? .
Roberton?

Just about our best on the weekend
Yep Roberton was good but Gilbert is in and if Hugh plays and we need another tall out goes Shenton and Roberton .
Think tony said Hugh might get a run .
Roberton wouldn't be far away from a top 5 BnF finish if the season finished tomorrow I reckon.


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Post: # 1555830Post Rosco »

plugger66 wrote:
FQF wrote:Three to be omitted from that I/C is hard to pick.

McKenzie, Shenton, ???

Well the certainties that are in are Weller and Roberton. Savage did well last week when he came on and Ray was Ok.

Shenton, McKenzie Goddard.
Reckon this is on the mark. Don't reckon they have enough big forwards to justify Hugh.

If any change I would guess Mckenzie in for either Ray or Sav, but unlikely I reckon.


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Post: # 1555835Post Stephen Theodore »

Rosco wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
FQF wrote:Three to be omitted from that I/C is hard to pick.

McKenzie, Shenton, ???

Well the certainties that are in are Weller and Roberton. Savage did well last week when he came on and Ray was Ok.

Shenton, McKenzie Goddard.
Reckon this is on the mark. Don't reckon they have enough big forwards to justify Hugh.

If any change I would guess Mckenzie in for either Ray or Sav, but unlikely I reckon.
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Post: # 1555845Post Rosco »

The other reason was that they see this as very winnable so might prefer the more experienced side.


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Post: # 1555852Post longtimesaint »

felix wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:
felix wrote:Out Shenton Ray n Roberton ? .
Roberton?

Just about our best on the weekend
Yep Roberton was good but Gilbert is in and if Hugh plays and we need another tall out goes Shenton and Roberton .
Think tony said Hugh might get a run .
There is no chance of Roberton being omitted -he has been one of our best players this season


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Post: # 1555860Post saintspremiers »

Don't understand why Membrane would get a game


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Post: # 1555861Post Jacks Back »

Gilbert coming in and Ray last week is starting do be a bit meh (or whatever that word is). We couldn't win the grail with those types of players in the side. It's a new side now and I would much rather see McKenzie and Goddard getting a run than the above two. I know we don't want to get rid of all our experienced players a la Melbourne, and this is a winnable game, and we don't ever want to get thrashed, yada yada yada, but still, meh.


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